MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #6

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  • #841
another inconsistency I just noticed.

MM's ex girlfriend who claims to have been over to the apartment and was offered bottled water claims there were no children items in view in the apartment, seeming to suggest that Bella's things were no longer there. But when LE searched they saw items that immediately confirmed in their minds that they had the right place and child (ie. the zebra themed children's items) laying in plain view on the floor.

So LE found items belonging to a child but the ex GF of MM claims there was no evidence of Bella's existence during her visit to the apartment which predated the LE visit.

Yes, another inconsistency. I agree with Steleheart. It could be because LE maybe found the zebra clothes in one of the two bedrooms. MM's friend was maybe only in the main living area. Usually guests don't walk into a room with a closed door. She did sound a bit upset & sincere, but was also MM's ex- girlfriend, so who knows.

IMO, it does makes sense that RB would clean up the main area & close the door. Kind of like out-of-sight, out-of-mind.


http://www.masslive.com/news/boston/index.ssf/2015/09/bella_bond_tip_that_led_to_arrests.html

Police then headed to the apartment, and a State Police trooper noticed children’s clothing on the floor, including the “zebra” theme that investigators had seized on after Bella had washed up on the shores of Deer Island.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...oe/dLTwKDG6aRL3QO4qHdb5nJ/story.html#comments

But Bond kept Bella. Around the child’s first birthday, with the help of a Section 8 housing voucher, they moved into a two-bedroom apartment in a newly renovated building on Maxwell Street in Dorchester.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...oe/dLTwKDG6aRL3QO4qHdb5nJ/story.html#comments

It was July. Bella had been dead for more than a month.

“That will never get out of my mind,” said the former girlfriend, weeping as she recalled how casually Bond moved through the space where her daughter died violently and alone. The apartment was clean, the girlfriend recalled. There was no toddler furniture, no baby toys, no robes with monkeys on them.
 
  • #842
What kind of game was Rachelle Bond playing? I think JA coming back into the picture instigated the beginning of the end. Was she putting all of Bella's things away and then when JA started sniffing around did she bring Bella's belongings back out? Did she just toss Bella's clothing on the floor? Or did she never clean Bella's room after she was murdered? Simply shut the door and forget about her.

RB seems a little OCD about cleaning to me because in the birthday video she told Bella it was okay to make a mess because it was her birthday.

Also, I would like a clearer timeline on where JA was exactly in June and July. BUF, your timeline is excellent!

"08/28/15? JA returns to Boston from Florida (few weeks prior?)
http://www.nhregister.com/general-ne...s-his-daughter"
 
  • #843
If they impounded MMs car ( and we have no idea) there should be some evidence or a body that was placed in the trunk for a cadaver dog to sniff out.. maybe. MOO

I just wonder if being tightly wrapped in heavy plastic would thwart a dog? I dont have much faith in those dogs anyway, JMO

Being wrapped in two contractors bags would probably prevent any leakage which would hinder efforts. The dog may catch a whiff but it is more difficult without any traces of material.

Problem is if no physical evidence is found there could be other causes (bandaids, blood, etc...) that could have caused the scent of human cell death/decay.

I live with a 9ish year old rescue Coonhound, a lost hunting dog. I have no doubt about his abilities, when he starts hollering I know he has located some sort of animal (usually a mole which leads to 2 ft deep trenches in the yard).

If he says it's there I believe him, don't need to see it. In the case of cadaver dogs it is a bit trickier, since a little bit of dead (band-aid) smells like an entire corpse, just much fainter.
 
  • #844
What kind of game was Rachelle Bond playing? I think JA coming back into the picture instigated the beginning of the end. Was she putting all of Bella's things away and then when JA started sniffing around did she bring Bella's belongings back out? Did she just toss Bella's clothing on the floor? Or did she never clean Bella's room after she was murdered? Simply shut the door and forget about her.

RB seems a little OCD about cleaning to me because in the birthday video she told Bella it was okay to make a mess because it was her birthday.

Also, I would like a clearer timeline on where JA was exactly in June and July. BUF, your timeline is excellent!

"08/28/15? JA returns to Boston from Florida (few weeks prior?)
http://www.nhregister.com/general-ne...s-his-daughter"

RB seemed to be well aware of keeping up the appearance of things being ok. She posted smiling Bella photos, videos of a B-day party, kept a cleaned apt. That's how she dealt with things in her mind.

If RB did place that child in the fridge, it would be more like an out-of-sight, out-of-mind thing (as well as a way to help decay) while she continued her drug-fuled binge, as she simply didn't want/couldn't deal with it then. So, IMO, I think she just threw everything in the other room & shut the door, just like she shut the door to the fridge.

As far as JA, I would also like to know when he came back in the picture. I do think he was the catalyst of her so-called confession/story and I do think that they spent time talking about it. I also think that they went back to JA's mom's house because they were aware that a search was going on at RB's apt. Which brings another question...how is it that LE knew to go to JA's mom's house? Who tipped them off?
 
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  • #846
"Family time"

What does that even mean? This bothered me from the time he was quoted saying it.

They weren't a family. They made a child who JA never met and didn't support financially or otherwise. RB told him the child was killed. And he refers to that night spent outdoors as "family time"?
 
  • #847
What does that even mean? This bothered me from the time he was quoted saying it.

They weren't a family. They made a child who JA never met and didn't support financially or otherwise. RB told him the child was killed. And he refers to that night spent outdoors as "family time"?

He's one messed up dude! One night in a tent, conceiving a child and 3 months shacking up does not a family make. He ran as far south (Florida) as he could when he found out she was a prostitute and heroin addict and married ANOTHER woman.

Then he decides to return because his mommy wants to be a grandmother and he buys Rachelle's story hook, line and sinker about MM killing Bella and holding her hostage for 3 months by forcibly injecting heroin into her neck. I think he thought he was going to step in and explain the story to the cops so Rachelle wouldn't get arrested! WRONG! She got busted too.

I'm glad he finally stopped talking... or the reporters stopped listening. Either way, I think he has been educated about the truth of the entire matter.
 
  • #848
:tyou: -- July 22: Nearly one month after Baby Doe's body was found on Deer Island, investigators have a DNA profile but didn't match it to any missing children cases.

(snip)Which brings another question...how is it that LE knew to go to JA's mom's house? Who tipped them off?
Respectfully snipped by me.

This was touched on several pages ago, but it keeps nagging at me: July 22, they had a DNA profile of Baby Doe. LE was going nuts trying to find out who this baby was - would they have run her DNA against known felons and contacted JA? If so, could he have been wired during their recent time(s) together? JA's mom was already on the outs with RB and had (allegedly) called child services twice, so he had no reason to be loyal to RB. All of their "family time" could have been LE's doing. I mean, why else did he never find any reason to appear in their life until after July 22nd?

I know this entire hypothetical can be torn to pieces, so don't waste any effort in doing so to prove me wrong; I'm quite sure it's all wishful thinking on my part ...
 
  • #849
didn't joypath say that death releases something different that attracts the cadaver dogs than blood? not trying to contradict, it is regarding another case I am following with traces of blood and cadaver dogs involved.

Being wrapped in two contractors bags would probably prevent any leakage which would hinder efforts. The dog may catch a whiff but it is more difficult without any traces of material.

Problem is if no physical evidence is found there could be other causes (bandaids, blood, etc...) that could have caused the scent of human cell death/decay.

I live with a 9ish year old rescue Coonhound, a lost hunting dog. I have no doubt about his abilities, when he starts hollering I know he has located some sort of animal (usually a mole which leads to 2 ft deep trenches in the yard).

If he says it's there I believe him, don't need to see it. In the case of cadaver dogs it is a bit trickier, since a little bit of dead (band-aid) smells like an entire corpse, just much fainter.
 
  • #850
I agree. Plus, MM sat by and listened to Rachelle Bond tell who knows how many people that DCF took Bella. No reason for him to say anything different. Let Rachelle do the talking. No skin off his teeth. Rachelle's problem is when she started 'splaining things. . .

Excellent point! MM has numerous witnesses backing up his story that RB told him Bella was taken by DCF.
 
  • #851
it was mentioned upthread it may be a prison term. conjugal visits are referred to as family time. but idk if he has been to prison or of FL or MA slang is the same as CA slang.

What does that even mean? This bothered me from the time he was quoted saying it.

They weren't a family. They made a child who JA never met and didn't support financially or otherwise. RB told him the child was killed. And he refers to that night spent outdoors as "family time"?
 
  • #852
I know there is a federal database but I think there is a state one as well. perhaps they had only run her on the state one? and hadn't done the fed one yet and planned to, or it took a long time? and JA hasn't done serious time in MA? or maybe he's only been to jail and not prison?

Respectfully snipped by me.

This was touched on several pages ago, but it keeps nagging at me: July 22, they had a DNA profile of Baby Doe. LE was going nuts trying to find out who this baby was - would they have run her DNA against known felons and contacted JA? If so, could he have been wired during their recent time(s) together? JA's mom was already on the outs with RB and had (allegedly) called child services twice, so he had no reason to be loyal to RB. All of their "family time" could have been LE's doing. I mean, why else did he never find any reason to appear in their life until after July 22nd?

I know this entire hypothetical can be torn to pieces, so don't waste any effort in doing so to prove me wrong; I'm quite sure it's all wishful thinking on my part ...
 
  • #853
What does that even mean? This bothered me from the time he was quoted saying it.

They weren't a family. They made a child who JA never met and didn't support financially or otherwise. RB told him the child was killed. And he refers to that night spent outdoors as "family time"?

Not only that, they knew by that time that Baby Doe was Bella and she was no longer in the water. So the "family time" angle was BS from the get go. She played the sex card and he fell for it . Again.
She even got him to take her home to Mom whom she had alienated before and who had (supposedly) called DCF.
As another poster said she couldn't goochy-goo another woman, so she put JA between her and his mom.

Just another example of how she manipulates men and alienates women.



MOO
 
  • #854
What does that even mean? This bothered me from the time he was quoted saying it.

They weren't a family. They made a child who JA never met and didn't support financially or otherwise. RB told him the child was killed. And he refers to that night spent outdoors as "family time"?

Correct me if I'm wrong but do we know for a fact that JA did not contribute financially? Why did RB, the evil witch that's she's portrayed to be, let him talk to Bella on the phone, send him pictures, etc?

I know he was not in the best spot either and seems to have been struggling financially himself but maybe, just maybe, he was sending Bella small gifts, clothes, toys. I wouldn't have sent her money. It would just have been used for drugs.
 
  • #855
Respectfully snipped by me.

This was touched on several pages ago, but it keeps nagging at me: July 22, they had a DNA profile of Baby Doe. LE was going nuts trying to find out who this baby was - would they have run her DNA against known felons and contacted JA? If so, could he have been wired during their recent time(s) together? JA's mom was already on the outs with RB and had (allegedly) called child services twice, so he had no reason to be loyal to RB. All of their "family time" could have been LE's doing. I mean, why else did he never find any reason to appear in their life until after July 22nd?

I know this entire hypothetical can be torn to pieces, so don't waste any effort in doing so to prove me wrong; I'm quite sure it's all wishful thinking on my part ...

As I recall JA was never convicted of any felonies so his DNA would not have hit in CODIS.
 
  • #856
I also think it is entirely plausible that LE contacted JA.
The only thing is he seemed to hitchhike back to Boston. Wouldn't LE help him get here quicker?

Also someone mentioned a few posts up that his mom wanted to be a grandmother and that's the only reason he came back. I don't think that is the case. Yes she wanted to be a grandmother from day one but JA seemed to want to reconnect with Bella as well. Again, maybe, just maybe LE was onto something.
 
  • #857
If they impounded MMs car ( and we have no idea) there should be some evidence or a body that was placed in the trunk for a cadaver dog to sniff out.. maybe. MOO

I just wonder if being tightly wrapped in heavy plastic would thwart a dog? I dont have much faith in those dogs anyway, JMO

The media is all over this case and to date I have not seen anything about a car associated with the case being impounded.
 
  • #858
Correct me if I'm wrong but do we know for a fact that JA did not contribute financially? Why did RB, the evil witch that's she's portrayed to be, let him talk to Bella on the phone, send him pictures, etc?

I know he was not in the best spot either and seems to have been struggling financially himself but maybe, just maybe, he was sending Bella small gifts, clothes, toys. I wouldn't have sent her money. It would just have been used for drugs.

No, you're right. It is not a fact. And I do think he did give her some money or gifts for Bella. I think RB started to demand more money or money on a regular basis and JA was not in financial shape to contribute more. Then RB the witch cut off contact with he and Bella. I think I read JA's mother was homeless at some point so even though she had wanted to take custody of Bella I don't know if she could have. She might have given a little money or gifts to Bella at times too.

I just believe RB was more like "You're not seeing or talking to the kid without money or gifts."
 
  • #859
The media is all over this case and to date I have not seen anything about a car associated with the case being impounded.

me either... I'm beginning to doubt a car or vehicle existed for MM. They walked wherever they went I guess. Or, bummed rides?? Hard to imagine them walking to wherever Bella's body was dumped though.
 
  • #860
Okay, where's the car? Did they impound it while MM was in the hospital? Did MM drive himself to the hospital or did Rachelle drive him?

"After killing the girl, authorities said, McCarthy purchased a large quantity of heroin. He injected the drug into Bond’s neck and the couple remained high for several days, according to Bond. While high, McCarthy moved Bella’s body to a duffel bag and put it in his car. He weighted down the bag and threw it into the water at the seaport, the district attorney’s office said."

http://www.newsweek.com/michael-mcc...-killer-said-have-called-toddler-demon-374950
 
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