VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #13

[Moonstrawbs]

Rational? Maybe not, but we don't know what her baseline is as it relates to anxiety. Maybe she always freaks out about stuff like this. And she was intoxicated.

Exactly right. There are many factors here!

 

[Wishbone]

Well according to Karen she dropped John off at a friend's house so why panic so quick? She hadn't even left the house and she's freaking out. He's not home...big deal. He's sleeping off the booze at his buddie's house. Why panic to the point of waking up the niece and call other people including your parents. These aren't 20 year olds. You can try and convince me it is rational behavior but I don't buy it.

Not trying to convince you, just pointing out not everyone reacts as you seem to including myself.That's all......

 

[arielilane]

@SueNBCBoston

Lally is now detailing the Aruba trip, then the Ring camera access.
One juror is restless, one is staring down, one yawned, and the one who is holding his head continues to do so.
Some jurors are glancing around.

The juror who had the very serious face has a less serious look now,

 

[TIGER0822]

He added an extra " I hit him". I'm struggling to hear him and stay awake,

and excluded the 'Did I'

 

[arielilane]

Lally says Read tried to call O'Keefe 53 times and called several other people but never called 911.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805628183548506432

 

[arielilane]

@TedDanielnews

Lally tells jury "there are only 2 videos missing from the ring system" (meadows). "One is defendant returning after murdering him… the other is when KR shows JM and KR damage to her Lexus"


11:44 AM · Jun 25, 2024

 

[fluffypaste]

Lally is now using a laser pointer to show on the screen where Karen’s car was.He turns his back to the jurors for a bit ad he does this.


The juror who was not making eye contact with Jackson is paying attention,Lally plays one of the voicemails.Karen’s screaming voice “John I f-ing hate you” fills the room. It actually made me jump.


Lally is playing the voicemails. As one plays - when Karen threatens to go to Mansfield- the younger juror is looking down.


The juror who I’ve described as easy to laugh and chat during sidebar breaks, had a very serious and heavy brow during Jackson’s close and it has continued to grow during Lally’s. He is almost squinting now.

@SueNBCBoston

Karen's text messages and voicemails that "weren't meant to be public" either, but Lally has no problem using them as evidence.

 

[jepop]

5 minute warning. I'd say I disagree with putting such a short clock on closing arguments but then I remember Lally is coming up and how painful an hour is going to be.

It's one of those ethical dilemmas! I think 10 minute's leeway would have been fairer. I don't agree that grown adult attorney's trying serious cases should be rushed and would prefer the judge demonstrate more respect towards their agency and autonomy. moo

 

[kittythehare]

'I hit him'. 'I hit him' 'I hit him'

He wasn't hit.
Simples.

 

[arielilane]

@TedDanielnews

Lally tells jury "there are only 2 videos missing from the ring system" (meadows). "One is defendant returning after murdering him… the other is when KR shows JM and KR damage to her Lexus"

AL: (JM's google search) “These searches were done at 6:23 and 6:24, not at 2:27”

 

[fluffypaste]

'I hit him'. 'I hit him' 'I hit him'

He wasn't hit.
Simples.

That's really what comes down to. Does the jury believe the FBI guys or not?

 

[arielilane]

@BienickWCVB

Read leans over and whispers something to Jackson. Now she takes a breath mint and folds her arms in front of her.


11:46 AM · Jun 25, 2024

 

[TIGER0822]

Now suddenly in closing he's saying she went back to the house so knew where the body was? Where was all that evidence in the last month? Must have replaced his "she deleted Ring footage" lie with this new oM

I was confused about that. Maybe he is implying that she drove a ford edge? Making up crap moo

 

[kittythehare]

making a point of her saying
'Is he dead?'

She had spent time trying to resuscitate him so she knew how cold he was ad how likely it was that he was indeed dead..

 

[housewife]

Pure fantasy- why would you worry about or go look for an adult police officer you dropped of at another police officer's home.

Do you mean why would KR look for OJO?
OJO was the guardian of two children. Karen knew that he would not spend a night away from his kids. It was abnormal for him to not come home and she knew that. Why not look for him?
Being in a cop's house doesn't automatically make everyone feel safe.
It's almost like KR suspected that if anything happened to OJO, his fellow officers wouldn't help.

 

[arielilane]

@JHall7news

Lally says two things can be true - Proctor's texts are despicable and unprofessional. And Karen Read killed John O'Keefe. He notes the Proctor texts don't contain any reference to a cover up. "Why? Because it didn't happen."


11:20 AM · Jun 25, 2024

 

[TIGER0822]

@TedDanielnews

Lally tells jury "there are only 2 videos missing from the ring system" (meadows). "One is defendant returning after murdering him… the other is when KR shows JM and KR damage to her Lexus"


11:44 AM · Jun 25, 2024

how would he know if they were missing .

 

[kittythehare]

That's really what comes down to. Does the jury believe the FBI guys or not?

I haven't a clue what they believe.
Not the faintest idea.

It could be a long haul..
It would never be simple, would it ?

 

[keek]

Also just a side note, i really enjoyed people from across the country having conversations about our language here in southern new England LOL!

between the F words flyin, the aggressiveness in tones,
the C word - and Bulkead I am just, giggling.

I live here in MA and agree, esp about the F words flying around. THe c word is never ok though. Bulkhead is.

 

[KMouse]

It's one of those ethical dilemmas! I think 10 minute's leeway would have been fairer. I don't agree that grown adult attorney's trying serious cases should be rushed and would prefer the judge demonstrate more respect towards their agency and autonomy. moo

It's not these lawyer's first rodeo. They both know that there is often a time limitation and would have worked on their closings. I think giving each side an hour is fair. You do not want to lose the jury and need to lay out the evidence in a clear and concise manner.