MISTRIAL MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #19

[Linda7NJ]

This is the part i want to understand better at trial.

It's not clear to me how Proctor would have been able to get the relevant pieces, and get them to the crime scene for SERT to find. Where were those pieces anyway?

IMO it’s preposterous!

 

[HarmonyE.]

It's not clear to me how Proctor would have been able to get the relevant pieces, and get them to the crime scene for SERT to find. Where were those pieces anyway?

The crime scene was left unattended for large periods of time. Too snowy, I guess?

The crime scene is also a 3 - 4 minute drive from the Canton PD.

Of course, the Read vehicle should have been brought to a State police garage (there were 2 far closer to Dighton than Canton) but I suspect Mr. Proctor preferred the friendlier - and much closer - Canton location.

 

[keek]

The crime scene was left unattended for large periods of time. Too snowy, I guess?

The crime scene is also a 3 - 4 minute drive from the Canton PD.

Of course, the Read vehicle should have been brought to a State police garage (there were 2 far closer to Dighton than Canton) but I suspect Mr. Proctor preferred the friendlier - and much closer - Canton location.

Proctor or any of the buddies could of and were welcome to that lawn any time I would think, they were all connected friends. Checking things out and things.

 

[HarmonyE.]

Proctor or any of the buddies could of and were welcome to that lawn any time I would think, they were all connected friends. Checking things out and things.

Yes, Proctor is a lifelong Canton resident himself and knew all the Alberts, having attended HS with some. Of course, he lied about this and this is yet another reason for his termination.

I'd love to know the excuse the State police had for not at least having marked vehicles monitoring the scene. I know they said it was too snowy for yellow crime scene tape, but I can't imagine any excuse for not having SOMEONE postioned in a vehicle out front. Literally anyone wanting access to the crime scene could get it.

 

[twhel]

This is the part i want to understand better at trial.

It's not clear to me how Proctor would have been able to get the relevant pieces, and get them to the crime scene for SERT to find. Where were those pieces anyway?

The pieces located by SERT on Jan 29 were in/under the snow between the flagpole and fire hydrant, in front of the Albert residence. A shovel was used to uncover the pieces (and the sneaker) per O'Hara's June 3 testimony.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I just rewatched his trial 1 testimony. It really says everything about the state of things IMO. I have no idea what he did, but the ring video part of the testimony was crazy to me. Especially seeing i now know he managed to 'find' more sally port video since trial 1. In a way that is even stranger. Why would he now 'find' stuff that was deep sixed?



I don't disagree necessarily, but i would need to understand the timeline exactly.



This to me is why it should never have come to trial, and really says everything about how this kind of shoddy work would usually plead out I guess? I guess they just never expected this would be a big deal.

Bingo! They never expected Karen Read to hire a brilliant team of attorneys to foil their shoddy case against her. They never anticipated being found out. Big surprise to all of that crew in Canton to discover Karen wasn’t your typical Canton woman who needed to be married to a cop to have her own identity and a brain.
MOO

 

[HarmonyE.]

The pieces located by SERT on Jan 29 were in/under the snow between the flagpole and fire hydrant, in front of the Albert residence. A shovel was used to uncover the pieces (and the sneaker) per O'Hara's June 3 testimony.

Perhaps they were introducted at some point during his testimony, but I cannot recall seeing any contextual photos of the taillight found at the scene. Just closeups with no or very limited frames of reference.

The jury couldn't have the SERT report because, remarkably, one was never completed.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Perhaps they were introducted at some point during his testimony, but I cannot recall seeing any contextual photos of the taillight found at the scene. Just closeups with no or very limited frames of reference.

The jury couldn't have the SERT report because, remarkably, one was never completed.

Link to no SERT report was ever made please

 

[Wishbone]

This is the part i want to understand better at trial.

It's not clear to me how Proctor would have been able to get the relevant pieces, and get them to the crime scene for SERT to find. Where were those pieces anyway?

IMO they weren't the relevant pieces, just some of the extra pieces of taillight the tech had left over after piecing the taillight back together.

 

[Derph]

Motive to commit crime’: Karen Read’s lawyers name 3 key witnesses in third-party culprit argument​

‘Motive to commit crime’: Karen Read’s lawyers name 3 key witnesses in third-party culprit argument

Third-party culprit defense is a legal strategy employed by defendants to argue that another individual is the actual perpetrator of the crime.

www.boston25news.com

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Well the motion for the texts has been DENIED!!

Thank you @Derph for sharing this.

Also adding this 5 ABC WCVB News online March 25, 2025 article by Jamey Pombo Sesselman entitled ‘Attorneys debate Karen Read's defense strategy; Prosecution denied access to her messages with attorney’:

Karen Read's latest motion to dismiss denied after busy pretrial hearing

A pretrial hearing centered on the defense's plans to use a third-party culprit defense and the prosecution's request for access to communications between Read and her attorney.

www.wcvb.com

Still wonder if the CW might try and appeal this; but would hopefully judge and higher courts (if needed) would result in the same conclusion. IANAL. MOO

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Thank you @Derph for sharing this.

Also adding this 5 ABC WCVB News online March 25, 2025 article by Jamey Pombo Sesselman entitled ‘Attorneys debate Karen Read's defense strategy; Prosecution denied access to her messages with attorney’:

Karen Read's latest motion to dismiss denied after busy pretrial hearing

A pretrial hearing centered on the defense's plans to use a third-party culprit defense and the prosecution's request for access to communications between Read and her attorney.

www.wcvb.com

Still wonder if the CW might try and appeal this; but would hopefully judge and higher courts (if needed) would result in the same conclusion. IANAL. MOO

I’m literally shocked the HONORABLE Judge Bev Cannone ruled for the defense.

 

[HarmonyE.]

I’m literally shocked the HONORABLE Judge Bev Cannone ruled for the defense.

She had no choice. The request was ridiculous and if she'd allowed it, she'd have been smacked down on the defense's appeal.

 

[Izzylizzy]

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[kuromiiiilove]

Link to no SERT report was ever made please

NBC10 Boston has a video on it here:

There is no SERT report available. While it is technically possible one was made but not submitted by the CW, that, to me, would heavily imply the SERT had conclusions that did not support KR being guilty - if one does exist.

 

[keek]

IMO they weren't the relevant pieces, just some of the extra pieces of taillight the tech had left over after piecing the taillight back together.

Were there not extra pieces thrown in as well? JO's bit of hair attached through a long ride in a blizzard sitting, sitting, on the back of KR's bumper too.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Motive to commit crime’: Karen Read’s lawyers name 3 key witnesses in third-party culprit argument​

‘Motive to commit crime’: Karen Read’s lawyers name 3 key witnesses in third-party culprit argument

Third-party culprit defense is a legal strategy employed by defendants to argue that another individual is the actual perpetrator of the crime.

www.boston25news.com

LOCAL

‘Motive to commit crime’: Karen Read’s lawyers name 3 key witnesses in third-party culprit argument​

Brian Albert​

“Albert was a fellow Boston police officer who lived at 34 Fairview Road in Canton.

O’Keefe’s body was discovered on Albert’s front lawn, just feet from his front door and the door to his garage. Read’s lawyers alleged in their argument that he was a “bully” toward other cops.


“Brian Albert did not have a good reputation among his fellow police officers. He was known as a bully, someone who has a history of sucker-punching fellow officers, particularly when he was drinking,” the defense argued. “He has been investigated by Boston Police Department’s Internal Affairs Division for his violent conduct in that regard. Albert is a trained boxer, and several of his fellow officers were afraid of him.””

This is the first I have heard that Brian Albert was considered a bully and was violent. Was this brought up in court before?

 

[nodamselindistress]

Motion to Dismiss is denied. No surprise there

Karen Read case: Judge denies motion to dismiss for ‘extraordinary governmental misconduct’

Karen Read's second trial will go ahead as scheduled on April 1.

www.masslive.com

 

[HarmonyE.]

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This is the first I have heard that Brian Albert was considered a bully and was violent. Was this brought up in court before?

No, this was not introduced in the last trial. But as a local, I was surprised it wasn't.

Related, on the defense's witness list last time was a fellow named Tom Beatty and his teen (at the time) daughter Erin. For some reason, the defense did not call them, but I see them back on the list for this trial. They have an interesting story to tell and I hope we get to hear it from them this time around.

Here's the current witness list. Karen Read defense team files list of prospective witnesses ahead of retrial

 

[keek]

No, this was not introduced in the last trial. But as a local, I was surprised it wasn't.

Related, on the defense's witness list last time was a fellow named Tom Beatty and his teen (at the time) daughter Erin. For some reason, the defense did not call them, but I see them back on the list for this trial. They have an interesting story to tell and I hope we get to hear it from them this time around.

Here's the current witness list. Karen Read defense team files list of prospective witnesses ahead of retrial

The list is mind blowing. I hope all actually testify. I am sure some are terrified.