MISTRIAL MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #19

[Wishbone]

Why do you put so much weight & faith on them?
They didn’t have all the information
They didn’t test every variable

They had enough info to know KR's car didn't hit him and added to that he wasn't even hit by a car. Take a look at the history of ARCCA and maybe you will see why I believe them.JMOO

 

[Sustained]

They had enough info to know KR's car didn't hit him and added to that he wasn't even hit by a car. Take a look at the history of ARCCA and maybe you will see why I believe them.JMOO

So you don't believe KR when she said "I hit him" ? Someone that was actually there ?

 

[Seattle1]

Actually, the jury didn’t provide it. They never checked the boxes.
I don’t have much faith in people incapable of filling out the form correctly.

Wow! I find this unfair and disrespectful to the jurors and alternates who gave up weeks of their time when called to serve on the jury. To be clear, the form itself was noted as requiring clarification long before deliberations began and BC famously refused the request. JMO

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Wow! I find this is unfair and disrespectful to the jurors and alternates who gave up weeks of their time when called to serve on the jury. To be clear, the form itself was noted as requiring clarification long before deliberations began and BC famously refused the request. JMO

This right here x1000. JMO

 

[Wishbone]

So you don't believe KR when she said "I hit him" ? Someone that was actually there ?

Read said the first nine in the early morning of January 29, 2022, after she discovered O’Keefe’s listless body in a snowbank: “Did I hit him, could I have hit him?” The next six were typed into a search bar by Jennifer McCabe, a friend of the couple—either hours before the body was found, or immediately afterward, depending on whom you ask: “hos [sic] long to die in cold.” (McCabe says she made that Google search at Read’s request only after O’Keefe’s body had been located. Read’s defense team argues that McCabe did it earlier.)

Karen Read Authorized a Documentary About Her Murder Case. Then It Was Declared a Mistrial

As Read’s second trial looms, the director of ‘A Body in the Snow: The Trial of Karen Read’ reveals how the outcome of Read’s first trial for John O’Keefe’s death changed everything.

www.vanityfair.com

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Read said the first nine in the early morning of January 29, 2022, after she discovered O’Keefe’s listless body in a snowbank: “Did I hit him, could I have hit him?” The next six were typed into a search bar by Jennifer McCabe, a friend of the couple—either hours before the body was found, or immediately afterward, depending on whom you ask: “hos [sic] long to die in cold.” (McCabe says she made that Google search at Read’s request only after O’Keefe’s body had been located. Read’s defense team argues that McCabe did it earlier.)

Karen Read Authorized a Documentary About Her Murder Case. Then It Was Declared a Mistrial

As Read’s second trial looms, the director of ‘A Body in the Snow: The Trial of Karen Read’ reveals how the outcome of Read’s first trial for John O’Keefe’s death changed everything.

www.vanityfair.com

See, but they present it like she said "I hit him!" as an exclamation and a fact. I'm extremely biased though. JMO

 

[jepop]

They had enough info to know KR's car didn't hit him and added to that he wasn't even hit by a car. Take a look at the history of ARCCA and maybe you will see why I believe them.JMOO

Yes, moo he was never hit by a car. The medical evidence supported this as well.

Bouncing off your post;

Imo the reason KR is on trial again for murder is because the CW had to save face and is feeling the pressure of the victim's family members to get KR convicted. That's why they're trying their luck with this reprehensible, sneaky Brennan character. Jmo

Moo, unless a commenter has watched all of trial x1 and put their personal convictions re KR to the side sufficiently to actually listen to the evidence, they will not understand the boat load of reasonable doubt that this evidence generated.

Whatever reasons the CW has for pursuing KR, moo they are neither reasonable or rational. More akin to a witch hunt as I've said before. Moo

 

[Linda7NJ]

Wow! I find this unfair and disrespectful to the jurors and alternates who gave up weeks of their time when called to serve on the jury. To be clear, the form itself was noted as requiring clarification long before deliberations began and BC famously refused the request. JMO

unfair & disrespectful is how I view the comments directed towards the witnesses in this case.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

unfair & disrespectful is how I view the comments directed towards the witnesses in this case.

Sorry I don't feel the need to be fair and respectful to people who are liars and bullies. MOO

 

[Linda7NJ]

Read said the first nine in the early morning of January 29, 2022, after she discovered O’Keefe’s listless body in a snowbank: “Did I hit him, could I have hit him?” The next six were typed into a search bar by Jennifer McCabe, a friend of the couple—either hours before the body was found, or immediately afterward, depending on whom you ask: “hos [sic] long to die in cold.” (McCabe says she made that Google search at Read’s request only after O’Keefe’s body had been located. Read’s defense team argues that McCabe did it earlier.)

Karen Read Authorized a Documentary About Her Murder Case. Then It Was Declared a Mistrial

As Read’s second trial looms, the director of ‘A Body in the Snow: The Trial of Karen Read’ reveals how the outcome of Read’s first trial for John O’Keefe’s death changed everything.

www.vanityfair.com

<modsnip> when she was discussing it with her lawyer. - when she learned there’d be consequences, she went to work pointing the finger at everyone else
IMO

 

[keek]

Wow! I find this unfair and disrespectful to the jurors and alternates who gave up weeks of their time when called to serve on the jury. To be clear, the form itself was noted as requiring clarification long before deliberations began and BC famously refused the request. JMO

Yes, that has been spoken about by jurors that came forward and others related to this trial. Like a quick bait and switch type of thing, like, oh never mind about thaaaaat, by B.C. All just whipped through, no time to get the clarification the jurors needed, just pretty much shown the door. Respect for the jurors in THIS PARTICULAR trial by BC, was not shown.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

<modsnip> when she was discussing it with her lawyer. - when she learned there’d be consequences, she went to work pointing the finger at everyone else
IMO

Yeah, what a real jerk she is. She is accused of murdering someone so she should just roll over and let them convict her without defending herself and lick their boots. JMO

 

[keek]

<modsnip> when she was discussing it with her lawyer. - when she learned there’d be consequences, she went to work pointing the finger at everyone else
IMO

Lot more to this than that, reasons that she knew to fight the railroading, as we have all seen, as that tip came out that it was. I believe that person may be on the defense witness list. THAT all is going to be some incredible watching and listening unbiasedly, as ONE is normally supposed to do in a trial, especially as a juror. HERE, no matter, just talk.

 

[angkg]

Actually, the jury didn’t provide it. They never checked the boxes.
I don’t have much faith in people incapable of filling out the form correctly.

The person who told them not to fill in the boxes was the foreperson that the judge hand chose. That person is the one who told them it was all or nothing. Hmmmmm I also don't put any faith in a judge that doesn't give clear and complete instructions to a jury. A judge that has shown bias all along. A judge that seems to be prosecuting the case rather than being impartial.

 

[Wishbone]

Canton Police audit ready Tuesday, same day Karen Read trial empanelment starts

The contract the Town of Canton inked Oct. 25 with 5 Stones Intelligence, Inc., was for a “comprehensive and exhaustive Independent Police Audit” to be completed by April 30 and budgeted for $198,0…

www.bostonherald.com

Canton Police audit ready Tuesday, same day Karen Read trial empanelment starts​

The audit request came about due to intense scrutiny as the setting of two high-profile cases.
The first was the Feb. 1, 2021, death of Sandra Birchmore in her Canton apartment, which local authorities first chalked up to suicide but the feds thought otherwise and brought charges against Stoughton cop Matthew Farwell, who they accuse of grooming Birchmore since she was a girl and then killing to cover up their relationship and her pregnancy.

The next is the death of Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe, a resident of Canton, whose body was found Jan. 29, 2022, frozen on the Canton front yard of a BPD colleague. Read, his girlfriend at the time, is charged with his murder.

 

[jepop]

See, but they present it like she said "I hit him!" as an exclamation and a fact. I'm extremely biased though. JMO

The more credible witness, Kerry, did not at any point in her testimony say that KR said "I hit him". The contrast sincerity wise between Kerry and JMcabe cannot be over-stated. Kerry was so credible that the defense chose to forgo cross examination. IMO.

J mcCabe was caught out in lies during several parts of her testimony. Ie saying KR's Lexus was at 34 Fairview between 12.30 and 12.45, when in actual fact KR's phone connected with J0K's home wifi at 12.36 am (JOK's home was at a conservative estimate six minutes drive from 34 Fairview).

JMc also denied she made.. idk was it eight calls? to JOK's phone between c12.30 and 12.45. Those calls were deleted by the user prior to handing over her phone but were recovered by forensics. She continued to deny this fact on cross and then tried to suggest they must have been butt dials. Somehow her butt both dialed, then hung up and then dialed again...repeatedly. She denied deleting them and claimed it must have been an accidental deletion. Shady and nuts. Jmo.

 

[keek]

The more credible witness, Kerry, did not at any point in her testimony say that KR said "I hit him". The contrast sincerity wise between Kerry and JMcabe cannot be over-stated. Kerry was so credible that the defense chose to forgo cross examination. IMO.

J mcCabe was caught out in lies during several parts of her testimony. Ie saying KR's Lexus was at 34 Fairview between 12.30 and 12.45, when in actual fact KR's phone connected with J0K's home wifi at 12.36 am (JOK's home was at a conservative estimate six minutes drive from 34 Fairview).

JMc also denied she made.. idk was it eight calls? to JOK's phone between c12.30 and 12.45. Those calls were deleted by the user prior to handing over her phone but were recovered by forensics. She continued to deny this fact on cross and then tried to suggest they must have been butt dials. Somehow her butt both dialed, then hung up and then dialed again...repeatedly. She denied deleting them and claimed it must have been an accidental deletion. Shady and nuts. Jmo.

Unforgettable!

 

[jepop]

Unforgettable!

Yes it was, it was laughable. J Mc just lied and lied like there was no tomorrow.

 

[Seattle1]

Yes, that has been spoken about by jurors that came forward and others related to this trial. Like a quick bait and switch type of thing, like, oh never mind about thaaaaat, by B.C. All just whipped through, no time to get the clarification the jurors needed, just pretty much shown the door. Respect for the jurors in THIS PARTICULAR trial by BC, was not shown.

BC famously used her 'this is how we do it in MA' response here and others immediately replied to Ted Daniel's tweet with proof that the verdict form was incorrect!







Ted Daniel

@TedDanielnews


Court resumed briefly and it got testy.AJ tells Judge the verdict slip is incorrect. He says there is no "not guilty" box to check on the lesser included charges of involuntarily manslaughter and motor vehicle homicide . He tells Judge, "They need to see there is not a guilty option" and "I don't care how they do it in Massachusetts"Judge says no.




7:17 AM · Jun 26, 2024

 

[angkg]

<modsnip> when she was discussing it with her lawyer. - when she learned there’d be consequences, she went to work pointing the finger at everyone else
IMO

She was given information that made her realize she was being railroaded. A witness actually came forward and told her where to look and who to look at. It had nothing at all to do with consequences. It had everything to do with overcharging her as well as the witness that provided information that was critical to her for that fateful night.