VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #35 Retrial

[kuromiiiilove]

I am hoping that this time around, with all of the expert testimony showing that JOK was not hit by a car, the jurors will not be split on that last charge. Straight NG across the board. Even if she was DUI, they didn't charge her with just that, so that lesser charge would not apply, right?
IMO.

Correct, just DUI is not a charge. The charges are murder 2, manslaughter, and leaving the scene causing injury or death.

So it doesn’t matter if she was drunk driving, IF the CW didn’t prove that she was drunk driving AND hit John, it should be NG on all charges.

 

[Leilei]

Court TV showing KR and team going back into the courtroom.
No idea what is going on - stay tuned!

 

[rescuemom]

So it is sad, but there were apparently 8 jurors in T1 that thought she hit him with the Lexus and that is how he died.

They just don't believe she did it on purpose and don't believe she actually knew she ran him over.

Crazy.

Following that thought. This jury just sat through all of the facts why KR didn't hit him because there was no COLLISION and also why she was wrong for thinking that. And why she felt responsible.

 

[Leilei]

Correct, just DUI is not a charge. The charges are murder 2, manslaughter, and leaving the scene causing injury or death.

So it doesn’t matter if she was drunk driving, IF the CW didn’t prove that she was drunk driving AND hit John, it should be NG on all charges.

So they just ran headfirst into overcharging her.
Wow.
IMO.

 

[BUF]

Has the fan been left spinning this whole time on livestream?

KR & defense just went back in courthouse….could just be they finished eating though

Deliberation clock still clicking

 

[nodamselindistress]

Court TV showing KR and team going back into the courtroom.
No idea what is going on - stay tuned!

Are the jurors exhausted and want to go home now? Shades of the last jury.

 

[Leilei]

I think they're leaving early due to Flag Day parade (per Sue O'Connell)

https://www.dedham-ma.gov/Home/Components/News/News/5165/#:~:text=The%20Annual%20Flag%20Day%20Parade,traffic%20around%20the%20parade%20route.

 

[arielilane]

If a verdict, could be good for the defendant. jmo


@cathyrusson
Parties are heading back to the courthouse. Assuming this is going to be an end into the day. Would be shocking if it’s a verdict.


Edit: Back on Monday.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

No verdict today.

 

[House of Holden]

Jury going home now

 

[Wishbone]

Jury dismissed for the weekend, back on Monday

 

[kuromiiiilove]

No verdict today.

The way Judge Cannone said it intimated that the jurors asked to go home for the day, but not sure how accurate that is.

 

[mzmarymac]

Not sure what the jury is thinking, but I would imagine that several would feel a lot more comfortable taking a step away for a couple of days to clear their minds, reenergize, spend time with family and be ready to dive in on Monday.

 

[hooziewhutz]

I think they're leaving early due to Flag Day parade (per Sue O'Connell)

https://www.dedham-ma.gov/Home/Components/News/News/5165/#:~:text=The%20Annual%20Flag%20Day%20Parade,traffic%20around%20the%20parade%20route.

I saw that. Flag Day. Really? A federal holiday formally established in 1949? THAT Flag Day? Was there a glitch in all of the calendars yesterday when she was telling us "---until 5, 5:30". ????

 

[hooziewhutz]

Not sure what the jury is thinking, but I would imagine that several would feel a lot more comfortable taking a step away for a couple of days to clear their minds, reenergize, spend time with family and be ready to dive in on Monday.

A sharp twist from her words yesterday though. imo

 

[Snoods]

I forgot the jury instructions while I was listening to them.

 

[Anniesflowers]

I am hoping that this time around, with all of the expert testimony showing that JOK was not hit by a car, the jurors will not be split on that last charge. Straight NG across the board. Even if she was DUI, they didn't charge her with just that, so that lesser charge would not apply, right?
IMO.

They should NOT be able to charge her with OUI, as there was no breathalyzer/blood draw at the scene. The BAC serum conversion used to estimate the BAC at the time of the alleged incident is basically an estimation.
ETA: moo

 

[hooziewhutz]

I saw that. Flag Day. Really? A federal holiday formally established in 1949? THAT Flag Day? Was there a glitch in all of the calendars yesterday when she was telling us "---until 5, 5:30". ????

I forgot to add: "The irony." MOO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

They should NOT be able to charge her with OUI, as there was no breathalyzer/blood draw at the scene. The BAC serum conversion used to estimate the BAC at the time of the alleged incident is basically an estimation.
ETA: moo

Exactly. Retrograde extraction is NOT hard science!!!

 

[hooziewhutz]

They should NOT be able to charge her with OUI, as there was no breathalyzer/blood draw at the scene. The BAC serum conversion used to estimate the BAC at the time of the alleged incident is basically an estimation.
ETA: moo

Can someone clarify the result they came up with? If I recall correctly, hopefully not conflating numbers with other numbers, the figure was not "double" as Hank claimed it to be in closing. Legal limit: .08% Double legal: .16%. Why am I remembering thinking "Oh. Thats it?". IMO