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Exactly. Judge Cannone’s jury instruction were very clear on BARD.“Probably accidentally hit him” and BARD are incompatible.
Exactly. Judge Cannone’s jury instruction were very clear on BARD.“Probably accidentally hit him” and BARD are incompatible.
I thought I even saw a diagram, maybe it was microdots? IMO.HE said it was parked in front of the mailbox in testimony.
Higgins said Albert issued an “open invitation” to the people at the bar to come back to his home on Fairview Road. When he arrived at the home, he said there was a “dusting” of snow on the ground, so he did a sweep through the driveway with his plow before parking by the mailbox.I thought I even saw a diagram, maybe it was microdots? IMO.
Microdots are incredible, the graphics and details.I thought I even saw a diagram, maybe it was microdots? IMO.
He did say all of that , in trial one.Higgins said Albert issued an “open invitation” to the people at the bar to come back to his home on Fairview Road. When he arrived at the home, he said there was a “dusting” of snow on the ground, so he did a sweep through the driveway with his plow before parking by the mailbox.
Higgins said he was only at the home for a short period time, leaving between 12:30 and 1 a.m., and never saw O’Keefe or Read there. He said he texted O’Keefe asking where he was but never received a response.
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It doesn't matter because there is no medical evidence testified to that John Okeefe was hit by a car. None.It's not supposition. It's in Ian Whiffin's testimony regarding John's cellphone location data when the Lexus came to a stop, and Ryan Nagel's testimony.
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And Karen's own words:
Clip 17
[...] Like he’s he’s roughly where I left him so yeah when I found him I was thinking did I like clip him somehow.
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Ryan Nagel also didn't see anyone in the passenger seat. IIRC he said it a few times.It doesn't matter because there is no medical evidence testified to that John Okeefe was hit by a car. None.
Where the Lexus was when the alleged collision happened has not been proven in addition to so many other missing facts that have been discussed repeatedly. For myself, it comes down to evidence of a collision actually taking place. IMO the Lexus damage does not support that happening nor do the injuries to JO show he was hit by a car.
And those are the facts.Judge Canonne stated clearly that if a juror thinks KR likely hit him, maybe hit him, possibly hit him, or probably hit him, even if it was accidental, then it must be Not Guilty. A person has to be certain she was responsible for JOKs death. This has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that her car hit him, causing his death. There are various other ways he could have died that night.
All the charges relate to her hitting him with her SUV.
- A drunken stumble
- An animal attack knocking him down
- A fight w/ someone
- Tripping and passing out on the ground
If the car didn't hit, they must acquit.
MOO
I'm not convinced everyone here has watched all or even most of trial. The jury, on the other hand, has seen it all.the fact that so many here are thinking guilty (a surprise after closing) makes me think we could be in for another hung jury.
It seems clear with some comments that they have seen click baits, exploitation type people's blogs etc as state as facts things that were long discounted, not up to date, not familiar with the independent experts and pretty much basing on KR's appearance, interpretation of her behavior and the drinking of the night. Right, this jury in trial 2, unfortunately HAS seen the evidence presented. That is the key in coming to the verdict as N.G. IMOI'm not convinced everyone here has watched all or even most of trial. The jury, on the other hand, has seen it all.
Also, there a very small amount of the guilty here, seems about four or five if going by comments. IMOIt seems clear with some comments that they have seen click baits, exploitation type people's blogs etc as state as facts things that were long discounted, not up to date, not familiar with the independent experts and pretty much basing on KR's appearance, interpretation of her behavior and the drinking of the night. Right, this jury in trial 2, unfortunately HAS seen the evidence presented. That is the key in coming to the verdict as N.G. IMO
So then where was JOK all that time?Karen was still there near the flagpole after RN & friends had gone. She didn't reverse while they were there, so it had to have been after they'd gone.
Judge Canonne stated clearly that if a juror thinks KR likely hit him, maybe hit him, possibly hit him, or probably hit him, even if it was accidental, then it must be Not Guilty. A person has to be certain she was responsible for JOKs death. This has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that her car hit him, causing his death. There are various other ways he could have died that night.
All the charges relate to her hitting him with her SUV.
- A drunken stumble
- An animal attack knocking him down
- A fight w/ someone
- Tripping and passing out on the ground
If the car didn't hit, they must acquit.
MOO
So then where was JOK all that time?
I promise I watched it all. Still do not got a clue.I'm not convinced everyone here has watched all or even most of trial. The jury, on the other hand, has seen it all.
I think that poll was earlier on? Before ARCCA ? Did I miss a second one?Based on the poll here of 381 votes:
80 people voted Guilty (21%),
225 voted NG (59%),
40 voted I Don't Know (11%)
36 people voted Guilty but with enough reasonable doubt so find Not Guilty (9%),
I expect another mistrial due to a hung jury but hope she is found NG due to Reasonable Doubt.