VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #36 Retrial

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I am not sure how jury deliberation works…can she not have the jury brought back in and explain the question better to them?
 
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Same Issue as Trial One -- WTH - Bev could have cleared that up with better verdict slips
Exact same issue. Literally.
 
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I am not sure how jury deliberation works…can she not have the jury brought back in and explain the question better to them?
That assumes she actually wants the jury to understand.
 
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Unbelievable. It I was on the jury and got that response I would say eff it. Better to just find NG in the face of so much confusion
My hubby is not following the trial closely like I am, but was just listening with me on our lunch break. That’s exactly what he said he would do. If you’re not getting more clarity, why would you convict if the punishment and ultimate charges are totally nebulous?
 
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Is this the same charge they were hung up on last time?
 
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Exact same issue. Literally.
Identical except this time they asked for clarification before rendering a verdict and certainly the Judge should answer especially since she knows what happened last time and because the defense has over and over said this was an issue. I just have no words. This isn't justice!
 
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I mean, can we all agree that this is now an absolute farce? Surely other legal professionals, judges, whoever can see the absolute shitshow this is? Make it stop!

At least in my opinion that’s what this is.
 
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Is this the same charge they were hung up on last time?
Seems like it. We don’t know which one they are hung on. But they asked a question about charge 2 earlier, so I am inferring that’s probably it - or the lesser charges included under it.
 
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The danger of dumb people in positions of power who think they are actually smart.
 
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That assumes she actually wants the jury to understand.
She does NOT, she made that clear both trials. She had the opportunity this time and will not and knows exactly what it is causing, again. Refuses to clearly state, no collision, the jurors are not stuck on that but this one, why is that, any kind of guilty or damage to an innocent person that is Karen Read? Yes. IMO
 
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Same Issue as Trial One -- WTH - Bev could have cleared that up with better verdict slips
Of course she could have ! Thats why she did not. She is doing all in her power to avoid a NG.
It could not be more obvious
IMO
 
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She's not going to deal with it. Hopefully the jurors can still work to get a unanimous agreement without Cannone telling them the consequence of a mistrial on the lesser charge.
This should not be in the hands of the jurors when the judge has the ability to answer the question. Just wow
 
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The danger of dumb people in positions of power who think they are actually smart.
Always . Stupid and petty people with an ounce of authority, no matter what profession that is 'over' others. IMO
 
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She does NOT, she made that clear both trials. She had the opportunity this time and will not and knows exactly what it is causing, again. Refuses to clearly state, no collision, the jurors are not stuck on that but this one, why is that, any kind of guilty or damage to an innocent person that is Karen Read? Yes. IMO
Yes, what do they say? First time is an accident, second time is a choice…
 
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What does Judge Bev have to gain from a guilty verdict or hung jury? (Genuinely asking)
 
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The danger of dumb people in positions of power who think they are actually smart.
And they are :rolleyes:Everywhere. It is like at epidemic proportions
IMO
 
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agreed
I'd make my own boxes on the form to check and then star them and provide a footnote explanation
When does the crazy end with this judge and prosecution
JMO
Exactly what they should do. That might give the higher court a chance to make a judgement for the defense if this jury hangs on the OUI
 
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