VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #36 Retrial

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  • #921
This is truly unbelievable. I’m glad the jury asked this question this time and that is atleast on record. She should’ve informed them that a partial verdict is accepted.
 
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Is it likely that the jury knows the last trial ended with a hung jury and they are trying to avoid that happening again?
 
  • #924
This is crazy. They should acquit her of everything.
 
  • #925
M for Masshole?
definitely not
As a resident I use the nickname "Masshole" as a term of endearment
So no in my world its definitely not for the Judge
I would just banish her from the state
I have a few states in mind that I would send her to but I don't want to offend anyone 😘
JMO
 
  • #926
This time the Defense will poll the jury on each charge if necessary - and that should alleviate what happened last time if we get the same verdict.
Bev shut things down last time before anyone could think and ask for a poll
IIRC
JMO
They cannot poll on the individual lessers within count 2 though, imo. Legally imo if they hang just because of the oui, after moving down the slip as instructed, the cw can retry the entire manslaughter charge again. There is no way out unless they can render a verdict of ng on each lesser as they move down the slip for count two. But there are no boxes to do that. Jmo
 
  • #927
I was hoping verdict would come in at 2:27 🤪 They still have time haha
 
  • #928
definitely not
As a resident I use the nickname "Masshole" as a term of endearment
So no in my world its definitely not for the Judge
I would just banish her from the state
I have a few states in mind that I would send her to but I don't want to offend anyone 😘
JMO
Apologies, didn't mean to lump her in with the good people of Mass (of which I know a few, and I'm a massive fan of the accent).
 
  • #929
definitely not
As a resident I use the nickname "Masshole" as a term of endearment
So no in my world its definitely not for the Judge
I would just banish her from the state
I have a few states in mind that I would send her to but I don't want to offend anyone 😘
JMO
FGS, don't banish her to NC.
 
  • #930
Is it likely that the jury knows the last trial ended with a hung jury and they are trying to avoid that happening again?
They heard about ‘trial 1’ in testimony, for sure. I’m not sure if they would be instructed by the court about a mistrial.
 
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They cannot poll on the individual lessers within count 2 though, imo. Legally imo if they hang just because of the oui, after moving down the slip as instructed, the cw can retry the entire manslaughter charge again. There is no way out unless they can render a verdict of ng on each lesser as they move down the slip for count two. But there are no boxes to do that. Jmo
@jepop When the judge spoke of other remedies - what else would she be referring to other than the polling?
 
  • #933
definitely not
As a resident I use the nickname "Masshole" as a term of endearment
So no in my world its definitely not for the Judge
I would just banish her from the state
I have a few states in mind that I would send her to but I don't want to offend anyone 😘
JMO
I didn't know that it was a term of endearment!
I've learned something.
So, not M for Masshole, but I'm certain there's an even better word out there.
IMO.
 
  • #934
Just watching my own fan for now…I’m simply enraged at the judge’s decision on the last question. How can she be so obtuse?image.webp
 
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I didn't know that it was a term of endearment!
I've learned something.
So, not M for Masshole, but I'm certain there's an even better word out there.
IMO.
The C word is a term of endearment here in Scotland, just sayin!! ;)
 
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