MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #7

[HarmonyE.]

I can’t make any comments about him MP, cause I know nothing. I’ve heard the health app can be wrong, with stairs I know mine is a lot. I’ll be waiting to hear when all activity on his phone stops….movements.

Right. More "wrong data".

Sorry, I simply cannot suspend that amount of disbelief. The sheer volume of it here is overwhelming.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Don't you believe Karen's car caused the lacerations (or "furrows") up and down his arm and the punctures all over his sweatshirt sleeve?

What caused them?

No-,I think his arm slid across protruding hard objects on the street or yard, as a result of her hitting him

 

[HarmonyE.]

So… Chloe is missing her lower jaw?
Where are the marks on the opposing side of the arm?
Her incisors removed?
Where’s the bruising?
Why ZERO evidence supporting a dog bite?

They look exactly like claw marks to me. If you happened to watch the trial when the doggie DNA expert testified, you may recall that she said claws tend not to transfer DNA as they are made up of dead tissue.

 

[TTF14]

I can’t make any comments about him MP, cause I know nothing. I’ve heard the health app can be wrong, with stairs I know mine is a lot. I’ll be waiting to hear when all activity on his phone stops….movements.

I think they are gonna have to decide which apps to try to convince the jury weren’t working right. The jury isn’t going to believe ALL of them didn’t work for these peeps. IMO

 

[kittythehare]

Chloe.

yep. Chloe followed by a quick freeze to prevent bruising but not to prevent harm... she could have been eating anything. Then they allegedly brought her to bed...

 

[MyJoey]

Her tail light couldn't have been deliberately placed near the body, as the vehicle had just been retrieved from her address when the initial broken pieces of the taillight were discovered. Therefore, if it wasn't intentionally placed, it must have originated directly from Karen while she was driving. That's evidence right there IMO.

Yes that’s what I was saying awhile back and everyone was telling me no. Agree screwed up investegation but, that couldn’t have been planted.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Here's the thing though.
The house was never searched for evidence of his presence.
The occupants denied it but that is not evidence, is it?

Do police search all nearby houses when bodies are found?

 

[MyJoey]

Which of Karen’s own words are you referring to?

Should say her own words and actions, everyone knows them by now I don’t need to repeat them.

 

[Linda7NJ]

They look exactly like claw marks to me. If you happened to watch the trial when the doggie DNA expert testified, you may recall that she said claws tend not to transfer DNA as they are made up of dead tissue.

So Chloe clawed at his arm as he laid there? Or clawed that arm when upright & fighting whoever inside the house?
Because neither sounds plausible to me.

 

[kittythehare]

Do police search all nearby houses when bodies are found?

Pretty much if they were interested in solving it, I imagine. In this case they didn't even search the house where he was found at, failed to preserve the scene and every tom dick and harry walked in and out as they pleased. We're talking a highly contaminated scene here... That's a NO NO in a murder case.
even the most rookie cop knows that.

 

[HarmonyE.]

Do police search all nearby houses when bodies are found?

Of course they do if they come upon a body on a lawn and the people in the house at a drinking party claim they didn't hear or see a thing.

Dear god, canvassing is Investigation 101. What do the neighbor's cameras show and what did they see and hear? But of course, didn't happen here. On a Saturday in a storm when most neighbors were in their homes.

 

[MyJoey]

Right. More "wrong data".

Sorry, I simply cannot suspend that amount of disbelief. The sheer volume of it here is overwhelming.

See and I feel the same way. Every thing seems so one sided on this subject and anyone that feels differently…..oh well.

 

[kittythehare]

Should say her own words and actions, everyone knows them by now I don’t need to repeat them.

She used words, she was quite hysterical, anybody would be.
However her words and her alleged words are quite different.

 

[Linda7NJ]

She used words, she was quite hysterical, anybody would be.
However her words and her alleged words are quite different.

Did you see her television interview ?

 

[TTF14]

So Chloe clawed at his arm as he laid there? Or clawed that arm when upright & fighting whoever inside the house?
Because neither sounds plausible to me.

A dog jumping into a physical fight to protect its owner sounds extremely plausible to me. JMO MOO IMO

 

[MyJoey]

I think they are gonna have to decide which apps to try to convince the jury weren’t working right. The jury isn’t going to believe ALL of them didn’t work for these peeps. IMO

Even so they prove nothing.

 

[HarmonyE.]

So Chloe clawed at his arm as he laid there? Or clawed that arm when upright & fighting whoever inside the house?
Because neither sounds plausible to me.

You didn't answer my question. You keep saying it's obvious Karen did it but you won't even try to explain these injuries beyond "sharp things cut up his arm" when there are no such sharp things on the lawn where he was found or on the street or on a SUV.

But cause I'm nice, it looks to me like he was shielding his face with a bent elbow during an altercation in the house and the German Shepherd who was not good with strangers clawed at his right arm. Makes more sense then random "sharp things" that don't exist, no?

 

[HarmonyE.]

Even so they prove nothing.

Come on, now.

 

[Linda7NJ]

They look exactly like claw marks to me. If you happened to watch the trial when the doggie DNA expert testified, you may recall that she said claws tend not to transfer DNA as they are made up of dead tissue.

Ah, Chloe has Freddy Krueger toenails?

 

[TTF14]

Ah, Chloe has Freddy Krueger toenails?

Untrimmed/unfiled dog nails certainly feel like that sometimes. Freshly clipped ones would be even sharper, potentially. And lots of people don’t take care of their pets’ nails like they should. MOO

I recall getting very scratched up once when I was trying to convince my dog he loved swimming in a pool. IMO