MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #8

[Elliot_Alderson]

IMO, if KR had anything to do with deleting Ring footage herself, there's no way her defense attorneys would be pushing it to this point.

 

[housewife]

Again I'm way behind live testimony today. Here are some of my observations:
-We lost another male juror
-Trooper Proctor perjured himself, at the grand jury he said he didn't know the Albert's and today he admitted he did.
-Trooper Proctor most likely told the lie that footage existed of a car striking Officer O'keefe.
-The state police union has taken down their statement from last summer, defending Michael Proctor

 

[LaineyJ]

IMO, if KR had anything to do with deleting Ring footage herself, there's no way her defense attorneys would be pushing it to this point.

Didn’t they get a report from ring that nobody accessed the videos? Or am I mistaken?

 

[JenaTaoson]

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[Elliot_Alderson]

Didn’t they get a report from ring that nobody accessed the videos? Or am I mistaken?

Yes, but other posters here were saying KR deleted them.

 

[JenaTaoson]

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[JenaTaoson]

If he talks about people the way he did KR and doesn't hate them, I'd be shocked to hear how he speaks about someone he admits he hates.

 

[LaineyJ]

MP said it was a figure of speech when he said he wished KR would kill herself.


Right.

 

[Charlot123]

Well, even if true, we have one woman fighting for her LIFE for a crime she insists she did NOT commit and luckily, there is someone who is actually doing the work these clowns should have been doing the entire time.

I view it as the system problem. This case has gained generated a lot of following specifically because of the accusations of Nepotism. Someone in these threads went after BA’s daughter working for the CW. Some minor job. Now if the biggest job provider in the town of Waltham, Bentley University, has the child of a Dean working under her father’s wing, seems to be the epitome of nepotism, no?

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We are discussing the culture of the police. Locker room and male-dominant. But why am I suddenly feeling an observer of a game with two teams and their hometowns? Canton has the population of 28+K, and Waltham, 65+K. With Bentley University being the biggest job provider. If I were a betting person, I won’t bet on Canton winning.

It is not one woman against the CW, not at all. It is institutions. And now I understand why the CW is split.

On the human side, I totally understand her parents who are providing their child with full support in such a situation. And, I think that the trooper Proctor’s behavior was inappropriate at any minimally humane level.

But, I am torn myself. If she didn’t have her family, she’d be crushed. It doesn’t minimize the obvious situation: drunk driving, likely, hitting an equally impaired BF, leaving him in the snow, sobering up in the morning. I think this case was defendable, though, as Yanetti said, because it probably was a drinking-and-frost accident. And, yes, everyone was drinking and the case has the biggest teaching value in favor of AA. As well as an interesting social experiment.

To me, regardless of the outcome, there are no winners. KR? Definitely, not. Her family? No. Maybe, her lawyers winning a case, but not how they won it. The Canton PD? Surely not. The city of Canton? No. And - I understand why this case has not gained major US traction. There is no archetype people can identify with.

 

[Moonstrawbs]

MP said it was a figure of speech when he said he wished KR would kill herself.


Right.

The audacity of this man has no limits.

 

[JenaTaoson]

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[mzmarymac]

Again I'm way behind live testimony today. Here are some of my observations:
-We lost another male juror
-Trooper Proctor perjured himself, at the grand jury he said he didn't know the Albert's and today he admitted he did.
-Trooper Proctor most likely told the lie that footage existed of a car striking Officer O'keefe.
-The state police union has taken down their statement from last summer, defending Michael Proctor

WOW!!! He is TOAST!!!

 

[jepop]

Vanishing Ring footage.

For all we know he went and collected a few shards of tail light lying near JO's car after the driveway bump and then just deleted the vid through JO's app or even turned it off first through the app before collection and or looking. it's impossible for jury to know what he did or didn't do as no documentation and apparently nothing in activity log per earlier testimony re warrant (QMark) so could have deleted activity log too through JO's app (qm).

 

[JenaTaoson]

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[LaineyJ]

Omg, AJ going IN reading the things MP has said. Holy crap

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

“Let’s talk about your figures of speech”

 

[themonk]

SHAME ON YOU SIR

i love it

 

[LaineyJ]

I can’t believe I’m hearing these words spoken so strongly in a courtroom. Insane.

Ah redirect now.

 

[JenaTaoson]

Mic drop....BOOM!

 

[jepop]

IMO, if KR had anything to do with deleting Ring footage herself, there's no way her defense attorneys would be pushing it to this point.

Agree. They're sure she didn't. As AJ would say Proctor had means, motive and OPPORTUNITY