MA MA - Rapheal Teken, 37, Eric Weissman, 31, & Brandon Mess, 25, Waltham, 12 Sept 2011

[2Hip2BSquare]

Great article on Tsarnaev's. References 3 people who allege that Jahar sold pot to them.

"Tsarnaev's younger brother never seemed strapped for cash, according to people who knew him at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth where he was a sophomore. But Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a scholarship student who earned spending money by selling marijuana, say three people who bought drugs from the 19-year-old."
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...nt-finances/ZbNBuN2Gcz8IOFddKDIU0N/story.html

Also the article references the auto certification. Of TT:

"Tamerlan Tsarnaev owned a black Mercedes C230 at one time — but it was a 1998 model likely worth only a few thousand dollars today. When he died last week, he only owned one car — a 1999 Honda CRV, according to motor vehicle records."

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I believe his name is Musa Khadjimuradov?

His last name keeps getting published incorrectly so it's hard for me to determine/find article with one definitive spelling.

http://rt.com/usa/rebel-suspect-bombing-link-448/

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ed-islamic-extremism-producing-separa/?page=1
In 2010, a Chechen refugee — a one legged amateur boxer — was implicated in an Islamic extremist plot last to blow up a newspaper in Denmark.


Is this the one ,Hip,? It does not even state that he met TT in this article,this article is awesome though,explains the connection to Afghanistan as well !



http://www.voanews.com/content/boston-marathon-bombing/1661874.html

Here's an article with video,I think that's him?
oh ,yeah you have to go to New Hampshire to buy fireworks? ....and you never ever talk about religion or politics,even though you're from the same country?

Yes the second link! Thank you!!

 

[Just K]

Great article on Tsarnaev's. References 3 people who allege that Jahar sold pot to them.

"Tsarnaev's younger brother never seemed strapped for cash, according to people who knew him at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth where he was a sophomore. But Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a scholarship student who earned spending money by selling marijuana, say three people who bought drugs from the 19-year-old."
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...nt-finances/ZbNBuN2Gcz8IOFddKDIU0N/story.html

Also the article references the auto certification. Of TT:

"Tamerlan Tsarnaev owned a black Mercedes C230 at one time — but it was a 1998 model likely worth only a few thousand dollars today. When he died last week, he only owned one car — a 1999 Honda CRV, according to motor vehicle records."

Here are two videos of the dark Mercedes that was towed away from 12 Harding St:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qtqTWxa7Fug#t=91s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VjhGLSySVAc#t=77s

If anyone knows make & models, there are really good images of the car. It looks newer than 1998 to me but then I'm no expert.

 

[Just K]

Interesting that DMV said he owned a CRV. The car in the shoot out was a sedan and not a small SUV. I wonder who owned that Honda.

 

[bessie]

Interesting that DMV said he owned a CRV. The car in the shoot out was a sedan and not a small SUV. I wonder who owned that Honda.

What does that have to do with the Waltham triple murder?

 

[bessie]

I believe his name is Musa Khadjimuradov?

His last name keeps getting published incorrectly so it's hard for me to determine/find article with one definitive spelling.

http://rt.com/usa/rebel-suspect-bombing-link-448/

And how is this person relevant to the Waltham triple murder?

 

[claudicici]

Because Musa Khadjimuradov is connected to TT.He may be the "Misha" that "Uncle Ruslan" was talking about.He may or may not have anything to do with these murders but it would not surprise me if it's all connected.
MK was a known rebel (or "terrorist") fighting against the russians.Yet he did not seem to have any problems getting asylum or a green card to live here.The russians and the Saudi's warned us about TT but yet he was not a serious suspect in this case? and he went on to bomb a peaceful event in the heart of Boston?

 

[claudicici]

And how is this person relevant to the Waltham triple murder?

I'm thinking along the lines....the drugs may have come from Afghanistan,Chechen rebels are trained in Afghanistan (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57580535/the-birth-of-chechen-muslim-radicals/
He was a rebel,the guys were killed Al Queada style on September 11th?

 

[claudicici]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/u...an-tied-to-tsarnaev.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&
"“So Tamerlan says they have dope, they rip them off. Tamerlan says, ‘They can identify me, so let’s kill them.’ And they kill them,” the official said."
Makes no sense at all,they always had dope and it was left behind anyways.....

Maybe that's the significant part of the statement.They were killed because they could identify TT & co,but I doubt it was about the drugs.Maybe they threatened to identify them as something they found out about them?

 

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Because Musa Khadjimuradov is connected to TT.He may be the "Misha" that "Uncle Ruslan" was talking about.He may or may not have anything to do with these murders but it would not surprise me if it's all connected.
MK was a known rebel (or "terrorist") fighting against the russians.Yet he did not seem to have any problems getting asylum or a green card to live here.The russians and the Saudi's warned us about TT but yet he was not a serious suspect in this case? and he went on to bomb a peaceful event in the heart of Boston?

So, are you thinking they didn't really identify the real Misha or did you miss that (not being snarky here at all)?

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Some facts about the area wherein the fight took place:

I have tried to locate what really happened to the two guys that jumped the deceased to determine if all this alleged horrific damage was done. I can’t find anything - so I assume no big deal as it relates to the fact that this was a fight, started by them wherein he responded.

Now, if we think about it , if some dude here in a huge mall down here is assaulted to the degree alleged local news would have done a piece on it. Man in serious condition after altercation in The Florida Mall Parking Lot details after an hour commercials!

I kind of doubt that someone at that point, who is being followed by the FBI, is being grilled etc. etc. am going to go start a physical altercation. Makes no sense that he would risk LE involvement at this point in time!

It was also perceived as if the fight was about poor baby not wanting to walk and want the space. The reality IMO, is when they jumped him he mentioned his knee. Moreover, the likelihood that the deceased would want to risk doing more injury (it fits in with the notion that he was being protective of his knee and when they started assaulting him he said something my knee my knee - professional wrestlers kind of need their knees yam know!

Again, I have been down there, it most certainly is not out of the realm that the other two guys started the fight! It has become a tough, tough part of the city. When the mall was built it was not nearly as rough down there. It’s tough down there!

Most dangerous streets Orlando:
1
Hughes Avenue and Pine Street (59)

2
39th St and John Young Parkway (43)

3
Florida Mall Avenue and Summer Day Lane (17)

4
Terminal A arrivals and Terminal A departures (14)

5
International Drive and Oak Ridge Road (12

[urn]http://www.trulia.com/crime/Orlando, FL/ [/URL]


Some more perspective:




Orlando is estimated to have a population of about 2.22 million as of April 1, up from 2.13 million on April 1, 2010.
http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/news/2012/04/03/orlando-population-no-3-in-state.html

So to put it in perspective there are two streets in a city of 2.2 million that are more dangerous where the assault took place - just rings true they started it IMO- if it were as bad as "Claimed" the surveillance video from parking lot would have been a part of the story on a local news outlet.

So in the big pic it is reasonable to conclude that the report was accurate in that he was jumped by two - and fought back - does not make one this horrendous monster!

It makes him a person who knows how to fight, was provoked, attacked and responded the way most would when two people are starting s$$$ with someone. Just rang true all the way along

Wow! And yeah it seems whenever a case doesn't get local attention it's bc local authorities/law enforcement have little information/jurisdiction as it may be an ongoing Federal Investigation.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

So, are you thinking they didn't really identify the real Misha or did you miss that (not being snarky here at all)?

Aha yes I see who you are speaking of! Thank you! I still believe this Misha character has less involvement now than initially thought. There are many rumors to his influences/intentions even up to a confusion of his ethnicity and age. I think it might just be a distraction. Who knows?


Found this line interesting:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...calizing-Boston-bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev.html


The death of Anwar Al Alaki via drone attack was on Sept 11, 2011. He was the American born Internet radical Islamic teacher who was the largest influence on Jahar and TT, according to Jahar's statement to FBI.

Hm.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...calizing-Boston-bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev.html

The article above also states that TT's radicalized behavior started to become noticeable in 2007.

TT met Musa at a Chechen conference in Boston in 2006.

They don't mention Misha's involvement until 2009.

I think honestly that Musa is the bigger influence on TT and probably had involvement in influencing/encouraging TT in the triple murders. They need to question Musa about the murders. I bet he knows more than anyone thinks.

 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...calizing-Boston-bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev.html

The article above also states that TT's radicalized behavior started to become noticeable in 2007.

TT met Musa at a Chechen conference in Boston in 2006.

They don't mention Misha's involvement until 2009.

I think honestly that Musa is the bigger influence on TT and probably had involvement in influencing/encouraging TT in the triple murders. They need to question Musa about the murders. I bet he knows more than anyone thinks.

I tend to think TT's radicalized behavior was starting to bloom before 2007, that is, as the article says, when it became noticeable. I'm still wondering what he was doing before he came to the US between the time Dad came here, then mom and 3 kids, and when TT then arrived. TT also seemed to be in Turkey and who knows where during that time period.

I found part of this article very interesting on him... It validates my theory that he had a narcissistic personality starting to form at a fairly young age and that he is not a typical religiously devoted radical but found his power in that.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-23/mom-shoplifts-as-her-boys-become-radicalized.html

Exhibitionist Exerciser

In Cambridge, Tamerlan Tsarnaev had the nickname “pull-up boy,” said Matt Stuber, 29, a next-door neighbor on Norfolk Street. He would use a garden trellis for his exercises in full view of passers-by.

“He was very image-oriented,” Stuber said. Tamerlan drove a silver C-Class Mercedes-Benz, and when he wasn’t wearing workout gear, he chose “boisterous, fancy clothes.”

...More at link. Good article and one I had missed.

(Oops sorry, I thought I was posting in the other thread, not sure this is relevant here)

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I tend to think TT's radicalized behavior was starting to bloom before 2007, that is, as the article says, when it became noticeable. I'm still wondering what he was doing before he came to the US between the time Dad came here, then mom and 3 kids, and when TT then arrived. TT also seemed to be in Turkey and who knows where during that time period.

I found part of this article very interesting on him... It validates my theory that he had a narcissistic personality starting to form at a fairly young age and that he is not a typical religiously devoted radical but found his power in that.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-23/mom-shoplifts-as-her-boys-become-radicalized.html

Exhibitionist Exerciser

...More at link. Good article and one I had missed.

(Oops sorry, I thought I was posting in the other thread, not sure this is relevant here)

Could you direct me to the other thread where you were trying to post this? Would love to carry on this convo there! Thank you!

 

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Could you direct me to the other thread where you were trying to post this? Would love to carry on this convo there! Thank you!

Here you go!

Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #12 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


There is also this thread

Ibragim Todashev Shooting Incident, Orlando, FL, 22 May 2013 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Just K]

Aha yes I see who you are speaking of! Thank you! I still believe this Misha character has less involvement now than initially thought. There are many rumors to his influences/intentions even up to a confusion of his ethnicity and age. I think it might just be a distraction. Who knows?


Found this line interesting:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...calizing-Boston-bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev.html


The death of Anwar Al Alaki via drone attack was on Sept 11, 2011. He was the American born Internet radical Islamic teacher who was the largest influence on Jahar and TT, according to Jahar's statement to FBI.

Hm.

Wow, thanks for pointing out the dates are the same. That is significant, IMO.

 

[Just K]

IMO, TT's workout style is appropriate to this thread as he was a workout partner with at least one of the victims, BM.

 

[Just K]

What does that have to do with the Waltham triple murder?

The Waltham murders were on 20 months before the Boston Bombings so it is possible TT had the green Honda sedan at the time of the murders. Perhaps someone saw either of these cars at 12 Harding on the night of the murders.