MA MA - Sandra Crispo, 54, Hanson, 7 August 2019 #2

[Yemelyan]

I should also say, a lot of my questions in the post above focus on scenarios if something happened to Sandra inside her house (which is the narrative we've kind of been given, with info about the bedsheet, the bed boards). However, she could have left her home with someone known or unknown to her, voluntarily or not, prior to disappearing. I have actually thought from the beginning that she left with a person known to her.

 

[Bodhi]

I've wondered if Sandra had a history of substance abuse or mental health issues because of the statements from police about where they were looking for her (Fall River, homeless camps, I think). She wasn't in regular contact with the for a long period but had become to 'come around more' in the last few years, her daughter said. Her daughter dismissed the police statement early on about Fall River, that she had no connection to Fall River. I wonder if she may have but her daughter wasn't aware because it was in the years they did not have a close relationship. There is a reason police said Fall River and not, say, Brockton, which is much closer.

Are we allowed to refer to what we read on social media? Specifically comments on a family member's page that are public? I can never remember if we can describe what was said but not quote it or whether we just can't link to it?

 

[Detectivediva]

I've wondered if Sandra had a history of substance abuse or mental health issues because of the statements from police about where they were looking for her (Fall River, homeless camps, I think). She wasn't in regular contact with the for a long period but had become to 'come around more' in the last few years, her daughter said. Her daughter dismissed the police statement early on about Fall River, that she had no connection to Fall River. I wonder if she may have but her daughter wasn't aware because it was in the years they did not have a close relationship. There is a reason police said Fall River and not, say, Brockton, which is much closer.

Are we allowed to refer to what we read on social media? Specifically comments on a family member's page that are public? I can never remember if we can describe what was said but not quote it or whether we just can't link to it?

You can't refer to comments from any friends/family (only can summarize posts from the actual missing person I believe) but now I'm on a mission to find the post(s) you are referencing.

 

[Bodhi]

I followed the case closely when Sandra disappeared. So my efforts to find clues was way back then. I check in every once awhile when I see there has been activity on Sandra's thread, hoping for a resolution. I grew up on the south coast, and spent 6 years living in Quincy and Braintree. So I can picture what her life in the Houghs Neck may have been like.

The area of Hanson where she liveď is new to me. But we have places similar to it around all the little lakes and ponds in southern NH--small rustic camps converted into year-round homes. With the closeness of the houses in the photos, I think it is more likely she left the house voluntarily. Possibly with someone. I am leaning toward Sandra arranging to meet an acquaintance from her old life in Quincy at a main road. It may have been difficult for her to give directions to find her house in the little streets off the main road (she didn't have access to GPS or online maps) or because it was dark. My theory is someone was coming over, she walked out to the road to meet the person and show them the way. That is why her lights and AC were on and her pocketbook was there. She planned to come right back.

 

[Yemelyan]

I've wondered if Sandra had a history of substance abuse or mental health issues because of the statements from police about where they were looking for her (Fall River, homeless camps, I think). She wasn't in regular contact with the for a long period but had become to 'come around more' in the last few years, her daughter said. Her daughter dismissed the police statement early on about Fall River, that she had no connection to Fall River. I wonder if she may have but her daughter wasn't aware because it was in the years they did not have a close relationship. There is a reason police said Fall River and not, say, Brockton, which is much closer.

Are we allowed to refer to what we read on social media? Specifically comments on a family member's page that are public? I can never remember if we can describe what was said but not quote it or whether we just can't link to it?

We definitely can't discuss it here due to terms of service but I think I'm on the same page as you and I have been from early on. Unfortunately there are many statements and comments that add up to a bigger picture and it's different from the official narrative. My hope is that LE knows all and perhaps one day there will be answers.

 

[Yemelyan]

You can't refer to comments from any friends/family (only can summarize posts from the actual missing person I believe) but now I'm on a mission to find the post(s) you are referencing.

Also it's not one particular post but rather the totality of info, including things presented (and things left out) of the podcast about Sandra linked above that led to my conclusion. There has been MORE than one narrative that is a misdirection in regard to her life/disappearance, IMO.

 

[Bodhi]

There is so much unsaid in the MSM reports and Letters from Laina. I do NOT mean that there is more on social media that can't be discussed. Just that so little has been said about her life before the recent move to Hanson, which seemed very isolating. LE comments about where they were looking alluded to homelessness and substance abuse, in my opinion. And Sandra's daughter's rejection of that focus seemed heartfelt and genuine. But IMOO maybe she was only aware in the general sense of issues but not specifics of where Sandra spent time or who her friends were. What I know about Hough's Neck is that it is close-knit. It's a narrow peninsula. Back when I lived there in the 90s, my impression it was off on its own from the rest of Quincy, which in turn has lots of connections with Boston and neighboring cities. Quincy is on the major commuter artery from the south, the Southeast Expressway. As Joe in the WBZ helicopter called it, "the world's biggest parking lot" back in the 70s. But more importantly IMO Quincy is on the T subway lines and has many MBTA bus routes feeding into the subway stations. So Quincy is a desirable place for commuters, and may be a more fluid place than Hough's Neck. I lived there in the 90s so I am certain there have been changes. But that is when Sandra was in her formative years and when she was a young adult like I was. I have friends who live in NH now but proudly display their HN bumperstickers. The HN generates a lot of curiousity bc people think they put NH on upside down. Anyway the impression I had of Houghs Neck from decades ago still seems to hold from what they say and how strong their connections to it remain.

 

[keek]

I followed the case closely when Sandra disappeared. So my efforts to find clues was way back then. I check in every once awhile when I see there has been activity on Sandra's thread, hoping for a resolution. I grew up on the south coast, and spent 6 years living in Quincy and Braintree. So I can picture what her life in the Houghs Neck may have been like.

The area of Hanson where she liveď is new to me. But we have places similar to it around all the little lakes and ponds in southern NH--small rustic camps converted into year-round homes. With the closeness of the houses in the photos, I think it is more likely she left the house voluntarily. Possibly with someone. I am leaning toward Sandra arranging to meet an acquaintance from her old life in Quincy at a main road. It may have been difficult for her to give directions to find her house in the little streets off the main road (she didn't have access to GPS or online maps) or because it was dark. My theory is someone was coming over, she walked out to the road to meet the person and show them the way. That is why her lights and AC were on and her pocketbook was there. She planned to come right back.

 

[keek]

I followed the case closely when Sandra disappeared. So my efforts to find clues was way back then. I check in every once awhile when I see there has been activity on Sandra's thread, hoping for a resolution. I grew up on the south coast, and spent 6 years living in Quincy and Braintree. So I can picture what her life in the Houghs Neck may have been like.

The area of Hanson where she liveď is new to me. But we have places similar to it around all the little lakes and ponds in southern NH--small rustic camps converted into year-round homes. With the closeness of the houses in the photos, I think it is more likely she left the house voluntarily. Possibly with someone. I am leaning toward Sandra arranging to meet an acquaintance from her old life in Quincy at a main road. It may have been difficult for her to give directions to find her house in the little streets off the main road (she didn't have access to GPS or online maps) or because it was dark. My theory is someone was coming over, she walked out to the road to meet the person and show them the way. That is why her lights and AC were on and her pocketbook was W. She planned to come right back.

 

[keek]

I followed the case closely when Sandra disappeared. So my efforts to find clues was way back then. I check in every once awhile when I see there has been activity on Sandra's thread, hoping for a resolution. I grew up on the south coast, and spent 6 years living in Quincy and Braintree. So I can picture what her life in the Houghs Neck may have been like.

The area of Hanson where she liveď is new to me. But we have places similar to it around all the little lakes and ponds in southern NH--small rustic camps converted into year-round homes. With the closeness of the houses in the photos, I think it is more likely she left the house voluntarily. Possibly with someone. I am leaning toward Sandra arranging to meet an acquaintance from her old life in Quincy at a main road. It may have been difficult for her to give directions to find her house in the little streets off the main road (she didn't have access to GPS or online maps) or because it was dark. My theory is someone was coming over, she walked out to the road to meet the person and show them the way. That is why her lights and AC were on and her pocketbook was there. She planned to come right back.

This totallllllllly just flipped me out. Such a realistic possibility! Along with believing very much that it was a person/persons known to her. <modsnip>

 

[oviedo]

My thoughts remain the same -someone close to her
IMO

 

[Yemelyan]

Oh my goodness. What if this could be Sandra. There are lots of missing women unfortunately but you can't help but hope this is closure.

Body Found in West Roxbury Swamp: State Police

 

[Alethea]

Oh my goodness. What if this could be Sandra. There are lots of missing women unfortunately but you can't help but hope this is closure.

Body Found in West Roxbury Swamp: State Police

38 minutes from Sandra's house, and 23 minutes from Quincy. If it's her I hope her family will get some answers.

 

[Dre]

I’m afraid to say that I don’t think it will be her- I think a human there since August wouldn’t be able to be identified as a female so quickly, but that’s just my personal opinion. Her family deserves answers so they can let their heavy hearts rest

 

[Yemelyan]

I’m afraid to say that I don’t think it will be her- I think a human there since August wouldn’t be able to be identified as a female so quickly, but that’s just my personal opinion. Her family deserves answers so they can let their heavy hearts rest

I feel like the chances of it being Sandra are probably slim but if this unidentified person's clothes were with her, that's how they might be able to say a gender before autopsy etc.

 

[Yemelyan]

Just to give some location info, the unidentified remains in the article above look to have been found in the Stony Brook Reservation, which is a large wooded, swampy area that borders some not so great parts of Boston and surrounding towns. Crime victims have been dumped in this area before. Some of the neighborhoods around do have their share of drug/crime problems. The reservation also borders more safe areas to the south. It looks as if a man's decomposed body was found in a different location of the park a day earlier! Though LE haven't linked the two sets of remains, they may or not may not be part of one crime. Which also doesn't necessarily rule out any particular identity as we don't know yet how long they have been in situ.

 

[Yemelyan]

The human remains found Saturday night were a different woman who had been missing from Dorchester for many months. The search for Sandra continues.

Boston police investigating death of woman who was missing for months

 

[Dotrat]

Mid May 2020, thinking of Sandra and her family and hope they get answers/info soon.

 

[acutename]

I just traveled to Sandra's Spofford Ave home for the first time, and here's a couple of observations: Her road and home is amongst the smallest, tightest cluster of homes I have ever seen. The homes are so close together, that while sitting in Sandra's driveway, I could clearly hear a quiet conversation between two people, two houses down even in the rain. Her street is a dirt road off of another dirt road off of another dirt road, and all of these roads are so narrow that one car can barely make it through, never mind two. If any vehicle were to drive down this network of roads to Sandra's home, it would HAVE to be seen by one of the many neighbors that it would pass by. There's an old stupid cliche about extremely rural areas - "If a strange car drives down the street, it was an exciting day". If there was any type of a loud struggle in Sandra's home the night that she disappeared, it DEFINITELY would have been heard by one of the neighbors in extremely close proximity. My thoughts: 1. Sandra left the house willingly with someone she knew. 2. AT LEAST one of the neighbors has information about the vehicle that took her. 3. Her murder took place elsewhere 4. She was taken at dusk (her lights and AC were on, but if she was taken in the middle of the night, EVERYONE in the neighborhood would've heard the vehicle drive down the street). 5. More than one person took her. 6. Sandra knew her killers

I am curious what the neighbors thought when Sandra moved in. I have not seen any statement from them (even if they might be useless gossip!). In a small area like that, the sale , purchase, etc. of a home and a new neighbor moving in would have been a big event, IMO.

 

[acutename]

....answering myself here. Interesting. And scary.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1151761?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en&__twitter_impression=true

kind of a double edged sword here- in another circumstance, since he was riding his bike around that area, he might have seen or heard something ...