MA MA - Sandra Crispo, 54, Hanson, 7 August 2019 #2

[Yemelyan]

I find it so strange that she had no cell phone OR internet. I can't think of a single person I know who doesn't have at least one or the other. I saw a video her daughter put out on the anniversary of the date she went missing. It was a compilation of photos of Sandra, but it also included a photo of a note Sandra wrote in her daughter's wedding album. It was handwritten, but was written a lot like some people write text messages. Things like she wrote "2gether" instead of "together" and "u" instead of "you". That's shortcuts people use in texting. Unless maybe she used to have a cell and didn't anymore, because that is sort of oldschool texting.

I agree, I don't know anyone who writes like that unless they frequently text or use computer messaging.

 

[detectorhector]

One more thought about this case- I read her bed sheet was missing. It reminded me of the Shanann Watts case. In her case, the sheet was missing, too. She was strangled, wrapped in her bed sheet and buried in it.
The back door is the one that was unlocked. With Sandra's car being in the shop, leaving her driveway open, someone could back their car or truck right up to the back door to load her body into the trunk. If she was killed at her house, that makes the most sense to me how it would have happened. If it did happen that way, either the killer was very strong or it was more than one person to be able to carry her body.

 

[keek]

I agree, I don't know anyone who writes like that unless they frequently text or use computer messaging.

I'd say the 'no cell/computer' is what her daughter knew at the time to be true. In the past Sandra most likely did have a cell phone at the very least, but for her own reasons stopped using one.

 

[Yemelyan]

One more thought about this case- I read her bed sheet was missing. It reminded me of the Shanann Watts case. In her case, the sheet was missing, too. She was strangled, wrapped in her bed sheet and buried in it.
The back door is the one that was unlocked. With Sandra's car being in the shop, leaving her driveway open, someone could back their car or truck right up to the back door to load her body into the trunk. If she was killed at her house, that makes the most sense to me how it would have happened. If it did happen that way, either the killer was very strong or it was more than one person to be able to carry her body.

As to the part bolded by me, the person would also have to have calculated that there was more to gain by risking moving her (being seen taking her out of the house, being seen at the spot where she was ultimately disposed of), than by leaving her where she was. IF this is being investigated as a foul play situation, which I don't know that it is, investigators are asking that question. Who took less risk by moving her than by leaving her where she was. It goes to motive.

 

[Luckyzmom]

Where are you Sandra ?? The door unlocked, dog no food or water, bed askew sheet missing, lights and a/c on, what the heck went on there ??
Am guessing if the dog made a fuss barking, bawling the neighbors would check it out, houses close together .... someone knows something !!
Has made me crazy going through what happened to Sandra , she didn't just vanish !! MOO

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Bumping for Sandra and family. Realized I hadn't seen this case come up lately.

 

[Yemelyan]

Today is Sandra's birthday.

Her family is still trying to organize searches.

Hoping that those who love her find answers.

 

[Momma4]

Today is Sandra's birthday.

Her family is still trying to organize searches.

Hoping that those who love her find answers.

Me too. It's crazy there has not been any more leads. And winter is approaching. I wish they would take cadaver dogs out again

 

[HarmonyE.]

I don't think she was killed at the house. I live about 6 miles away so I took a detour some months back and took a look at the neighborhood. AC or not (and several of these little nearby cottages appeared not to have AC) I can't see a killer risking neighbors hearing literally everything. She walked away, was enticed away or she was dragged away. Even pulling her away would have been risky in that neighborhood. The neighbors may not have known her, but a would-be abductor would have been putting him/herself in a very risky situation. The houses are very close together. Also, aside from some vague story about the bed being caved in a bit from a bed slat that may have fallen off the frame, as far as we've been told there were no signs of a struggle and her purse was gone.

We still know so little about the victim. Upthread it says both she and the daughter are on the deed of the house and that it was bought with funds from the sale of her father's larger house in more expensive Quincy. Was this all the money Sandra had? Has her father's estate been through probate? Was she the sole beneficiary of the estate? Was she the executor of the estate? Does she have siblings? A stepmother? Why was her daughter on the deed of the new house? Did she contribute funds for the purchase? Sounds as though Sandra should have had enough money to buy the house outright, but without a job, what was she planning on living on for the next 30 years?

Maybe she went out with an unknown boyfriend that night. Maybe she went for a late walk and ran into some sort of trouble. But if not, I'm guessing LE is following the money. Assuming there is in fact money.

 

[CastlesBurning]

Seven years of Dateline's Missing in America: 156 still missing

 

[MsGazette]

One more thought about this case- I read her bed sheet was missing. It reminded me of the Shanann Watts case. In her case, the sheet was missing, too. She was strangled, wrapped in her bed sheet and buried in it.
The back door is the one that was unlocked. With Sandra's car being in the shop, leaving her driveway open, someone could back their car or truck right up to the back door to load her body into the trunk. If she was killed at her house, that makes the most sense to me how it would have happened. If it did happen that way, either the killer was very strong or it was more than one person to be able to carry her body.

I didn’t realize the bed sheet was missing. That does seem to me like a significant part of the situation, IMO. Interesting.

 

[Luckyzmom]

That sheet has bothered me from.the gitgo.....what does it take for the LE to recognize Red Flags ,,????
Where the H,$$ is Sandra ??
Thanks @MsGazette for throwing it out again ! We need to start with the initial investigation AGAIN !!
Anyone interested ?! MOO

 

[Yemelyan]

One thing I would love to know is if LE are investigating this as a missing persons case or as a criminal case. Police have never said they suspect foul play in her disappearance, to my knowledge. Can anyone think of a reason that they wouldn't come out and say this, IF they did suspect it?

 

[Birder64]

One thing I would love to know is if LE are investigating this as a missing persons case or as a criminal case. Police have never said they suspect foul play in her disappearance, to my knowledge. Can anyone think of a reason that they wouldn't come out and say this, IF they did suspect it?

I would think they wouldn't say they may be collecting information and they wouldn't want the case compromised. I think if LE believes there's foul play they maybe are watching the people they think are involved. They can't mess it up. A person can only be tried once. I'm sure they are getting all their ducks in a row before they make an arrest. I believe this is about money and I always have. I don't believe a stranger took her. Follow the money. From all I read she didn't have a boyfriend so if it's not a angry boyfriend then what else could it be? Money!
The only other thing is she wandered off but even that I just don't think I feel she would of been found. It's not like she would bury herself. She would be laying somewhere. I also don't think she would walk into a wet marshy area. If she was outside walking why wasn't her dog with her?
I also don't think shes out there wandering aimlessly from a stroke or amnesia I think she would of been found by now.
The out panhandling theory would of been completely checked out that to me is a no brainer. Seriously she's standing in a store plaza asking for money?? The cops would have her in one day. Nope don't buy it.
One of the things I've wondered is if she's afraid of someone and is hiding and a friend came and got her.

 

[Yemelyan]

I would think they wouldn't say they may be collecting information and they wouldn't want the case compromised. I think if LE believes there's foul play they maybe are watching the people they think are involved. They can't mess it up. A person can only be tried once. I'm sure they are getting all their ducks in a row before they make an arrest. I believe this is about money and I always have. I don't believe a stranger took her. Follow the money. From all I read she didn't have a boyfriend so if it's not a angry boyfriend then what else could it be? Money!
The only other thing is she wandered off but even that I just don't think I feel she would of been found. It's not like she would bury herself. She would be laying somewhere. I also don't think she would walk into a wet marshy area. If she was outside walking why wasn't her dog with her?
I also don't think shes out there wandering aimlessly from a stroke or amnesia I think she would of been found by now.
The out panhandling theory would of been completely checked out that to me is a no brainer. Seriously she's standing in a store plaza asking for money?? The cops would have her in one day. Nope don't buy it.
One of the things I've wondered is if she's afraid of someone and is hiding and a friend came and got her.

After this much time has passed, I think it's quite typical for police to either say that foul play is suspected (even if they don't reveal who is being investigated) or that they are still looking at it as a missing person case. The family has been pretty vocal that they believe foul play is involved. I'd just be curious to hear police say whether they have any evidence of that or none at all. JMO.

 

[Yemelyan]

That sheet has bothered me from.the gitgo.....what does it take for the LE to recognize Red Flags ,,????
Where the H,$$ is Sandra ??
Thanks @MsGazette for throwing it out again ! We need to start with the initial investigation AGAIN !!
Anyone interested ?! MOO

Whenever an unresolved case is strange to the point where it doesn't make sense, my personal conclusion is that there may be one or more significant facts that have been left out of the narrative.

Sometimes this is unintentional (there was something about the missing person that even the family or close friends didn't know), other times I think it is intentional (family wants to save face, maintain their privacy, or believes that LE and/or the public wouldn't have the same level of urgency in helping look for the missing person, if these facts were known).

I don't know which of these apply to Sandra's case, if either one does, but if something like what I described is at play it's going to be very difficult for LE.

 

[HarmonyE.]

That sheet has bothered me from.the gitgo.....what does it take for the LE to recognize Red Flags ,,????
Where the H,$$ is Sandra ??

Is it a red flag or a red herring?

I've never heard LE mention the sheet. Only Sandra's daughter mentioned it and I believe she thought it was the fitted sheet.

The story as told by the daughter goes basically like this:

Mom needed undercarriage work of some sort to be ready for the winter that was still 4.5 months away Son-in-law meets her at mechanic's. Sandra's car is left there. Son-in-law takes her to buy ciggies at local convenience store. The CCTV tape from the store is the last time she's seen. SIL says he drops her at her home at around 5 pm. He says he did not see her actually enter the house. As far as we know, no neighbor videos exist showing her return. There may not be any cameras in the area, but hopefully the cops checked with everyone. Can't imagine they wouldn't have done that right away.

Daughter is at the beach the following day. Tries calling Mom to talk about the car repairs. Gets no answer on Mom's landline which is her only means of communication. Daughter says she becomes very concerned. She knows Sandra has no car and no known friends in the area. Her husband tells her not to worry, so after the beach neither she nor her husband make the seven minute trip from their own house (the daughter's estimate is that her house was a 7 minute drive from Mom's, about 3 or 4 miles) to check on her at any point on Thursday. (Myself, I would have checked on a 54 year old smoker home alone with no vehicle and no cell. Did she slip in the shower? Have a stroke? Seems it would have been simple enough to do a quick check on her. But I digress.)

Friday morning she plans on dropping her kids off on her way to work. She gets a strange feeling, so she tells the kids to stay in the car. Enters the house, finds the dog with no water, and she says lights and AC are on. She didn't call the police but instead dropped the kids off with another family member and continues on to her work. (I would have called 911 immediately, but again, that's just me.) At some point during the day (not clear when), the son-in-law walks into the Hanson PD to report her missing.

I'm not clear at what point the daughter would have had the opportunity to inspect the bed linens, especially as she seemed in a hurry to get to work. Maybe her husband did before he went to the police? We don't know. We don't know if the police found the fitted sheet in a dresser. Or in a laundry hamper. Or if it is really missing. I've only read there was no indication of a struggle in the house according to the cops. They've said little else and I don't think we can read into that one way or the other. I don't think they thought the house was a crime scene though. They didn't even do a full forensic inspection of the house until a month later, which is possibly telling.

As I mentioned upthread I am familiar with the area and I do not believe she went out for a walk that night alone. There is almost literally no where to go without a car. The street is short and unpaved and the main road it is off of is dark at night and there are no sidewalks. And there really is nothing much within walking distance anyway. She clearly didn't go out to walk the dog as he never left the home.

The clothes she had on in the store video, including her shoes, were not found in the house. I believe the police said her handbag was missing as well. That would indicate something went wrong for her Wednesday evening or overnight. I do not believe she left on her own. Assuming she made it into the house Wednesday afternoon, she left with someone to go somewhere. Somewhere where she almost certainly met her demise.

 

[unknown402]

I haven’t come on this website since April but two cases crossed my mind today and this was one of them. It makes me so sad that she is still missing. This is one of the first cases I followed.
Piggy backing off the previous comment, I too think that something happened to her Wednesday. I think that would make the most sense as to why the clothes she was wearing weren’t found and it makes the dog being completely out of food and water make more sense.
Sandra where did you go

 

[Gracie2722]

I live not too far from Hanson so this case caught my interest.

Few things I'd like to clarify:
1. Wasn't SC's daughter at the beach with her kids the day her husband gave SC a lift to and from the mechanic? If so, then how is it possible that the kids were in the car?

2. Could be just a hunch, but if no one can verify she made it home, my gut feeling is she never made it home. We often leave our doors unlocked when we run out to do a few quick errands, so it's not surprising to me that maybe she would have left the backdoor open when she left with a relative to go to the mechanic.

3. A few things are suspect to me: her daughter's name is on the deed and it seems she took some responsibility for SC's finances, despite not having a close relationship until recently? Can anyone clarify what she meant by suggesting she and her mom were not close until recently? This could indicate a possible strain in familial relations.

4. I keep wondering if anyone in the family was going through financial struggles/had something to gain from SC dying---although she hasn't been declared dead, so I struggle with this as a possible motive.

4. Have any of SC's friends/siblings/relatives besides her daughter spoken with the media? I'm curious if they could shed a little more light or share a different perspective on her personal life.

5. There are a few sex offenders with in walking distance from her house....not to suggest in any way that they were involved, but I'm wondering if that has been ruled out.

 

[Yemelyan]

I live not too far from Hanson so this case caught my interest.

Few things I'd like to clarify:
1. Wasn't SC's daughter at the beach with her kids the day her husband gave SC a lift to and from the mechanic? If so, then how is it possible that the kids were in the car?
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Snipped to highlight this...The correct timeline is:

The day the car was dropped at the mechanic was Wednesday, after Sandra had watched the kids all day. The son in law evidently came to her house, they put the kids in car seats in his truck, she drove her own car to the mechanic and he followed. Then she hopped in his truck and they made the stop at Cumberland Farms on the way back to Sandra's house.

The following day, Thursday, her daughter had the kids with her at the beach as it was her day off.

Friday morning when the daughter arrived to drop off the kids Sandra was nowhere to be found.