MA MA - Sandra Crispo, 54, Hanson, 7 August 2019 #2

[nicoletee]

I understand but I'm not sure its a red flag! If she stuck around the house with the kids I don't see the big deal and I don't see how it relates to her disappearance.

Agree that there's no obvious connection. If she drove with the kids, I could see daughter insisting on one, but we don't know that she did. She very well may not have, as it's tough to deal with three very small kids with no help and she'd have needed three car seats installed in her car.

If she never took the kids out in her car, I don't see why she'd need a cell phone. The landline would be sufficient at the house and surrounding area and even if she went for walks and a kid fell and got hurt, she probably wasn't too far from home or worst case, a neighbor's phone.

Sandra apparently didn't have an income beyond whatever she got from her daughter. She also apparently didn't use/need the internet and it doesn't sound like she got many phone calls. She may not have felt the expense of another phone line in addition to the landline was needed under the circumstances.

 

[MimosaMornings]

So many things in daily life are digital now.
Bank statements are not mailed but accessed online. How did she know her bank account or balance it? Or did her daughter give her a cash allowance each week?

A cheap flip phone on her daughter’s cell phone plan would have made sense but no cell phone or computer or even a tablet?

Landlines are really just for local calls now unless it was a voip setup? Landlines can be more expensive than a cell phone if she ever made calls outside her area code price range.

The no cell phone or computer tells me EVERYTHING in Sandra’s life was controlled/handled by her daughter.

I didn’t think she even knew her neighbors?

Would she have even reached out to a new neighbor? I am not sure.

JMO

 

[Yemelyan]

The fact that she reportedly had no cell phone or internet access is related to the investigation of her disappearance.

First, it goes toward her general personality and access to the outside world. Not having a cell phone or internet access, at her age of 54, is an anomaly no matter which way you look at it. Yes, you can find some other 50 somethings who also don't have them, but it is a very low percentage compared to those who do. So then you have to ask what personality traits do these people of similar age share who don't have cell phone and internet access? Do they have poor social integration? Are they likely to have financial or credit difficulties? Have they purposely done away with these two means of communication for a particular reason? Are there any clues there that could inform a theory of why Sandra would disappear? It may lead to nothing, but it's an avenue that LE absolutely have to question, IMO.

 

[nicoletee]

Landlines are really just for local calls now unless it was a voip setup? Landlines can be more expensive than a cell phone if she ever made calls outside her area code price range.

The no cell phone or computer tells me EVERYTHING in Sandra’s life was controlled/handled by her daughter.

I have a landline with three phones because I live in big house and don't want to have to figure out where I left my cell in a smoky emergency. The landline phones stay put. It's 25 bucks additional as a package with my basic cable and includes local and long distance. Of course, I have work and personal laptops and a tablet in addition to my cell and I would struggle to live without the internet. But, there are plenty of people who live without the internet, even if sometimes they have to rely on others for help. Like my 66 year old neighbor who needed my help to sign up for a Covid shot. No cell, just an ancient PC that he never used after his wife died. He's never used the internet and doesn't miss it, even if Covid in general made things more challenging the past year. Too new a trick for this old dog, he said.

I do agree that if Laina had wanted her mother to have a cell phone, she'd could have easily added a basic cell on her plan relatively cheaply, probably as cheap as having a landline. I'm just not sure that either one of them considered one a necessity considering the nature of Sandra's lifestyle.

Now if we knew she'd worked in an office at some point or used to have a computer at home in the past, yes, I'd find her recent lack of internet access mighty odd, especially if it was her family who decided she didn't need a phone.

 

[HarmonyE.]

I have a sibling exactly Sandra's age who has a smart phone (only) but barely uses the internet. She's never had a job that required the use of the web and finds it confusing and "messy" looking things up.

I'm not sure if Sandra's lack of internet access is relevant or not to her disappearance. Years ago I had a friend who got into serious financial trouble gambling online. I'm not sure if that's still a thing or not, but something like that would surely be a reason to avoid the internet. So it's possible like my sister, she wasn't interested or like my friend, there was a specific reason or reasons to stay away.

According to members of her family, Sandra liked to be "taken care of". Maybe having a tablet or a laptop would have afforded her a level of self-sufficiency she really didn't want?

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

I admit, I am patiently waiting for an arrest in Sandra's case. LE knows more than we do and an arrest is imminent IMO. I will be surprised if this is self harm, voluntary walk away, or stranger abduction. No matter what, it is so good to know she is not forgotten here.

 

[HarmonyE.]

I admit, I am patiently waiting for an arrest in Sandra's case. LE knows more than we do and an arrest is imminent IMO. I will be surprised if this is self harm, voluntary walk away, or stranger abduction. No matter what, it is so good to know she is not forgotten here.

I'm hoping you know more than I do! I don't think there will be an arrest until a body is found. If one is never found, I fear this will be one of those forever cold cases. But I agree - foul play by person or persons known to Sandra. Which may include person or persons we've never even heard of.

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

Deceased/Not Found - NC- David “Van” Alphin, 35, Sampson County, 2 Feb 2021 *arrest*

Each case is unique but this is a very recent case with an arrest and no body found. Yes, the circumstances are totally different but LE worked the case, found evidence (which has not been made public) and have made an arrest. It absolutely happens.

That said, I do not have a theory as to whether Sandra will be found.

 

[MsGazette]

Deceased/Not Found - NC- David “Van” Alphin, 35, Sampson County, 2 Feb 2021 *arrest*

Each case is unique but this is a very recent case with an arrest and no body found. Yes, the circumstances are totally different but LE worked the case, found evidence (which has not been made public) and have made an arrest. It absolutely happens.

That said, I do not have a theory as to whether Sandra will be found.

I agree. It definitely does happen! In some cases, it’s what leads LE to the body.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Does it sound like she had cut ties with some of her family? Moving away from where she had lived/raised children/etc?
At one time had a cell phone but now only a landline? Did her son live with her previously?

 

[HarmonyE.]

Does it sound like she had cut ties with some of her family? Moving away from where she had lived/raised children/etc?
At one time had a cell phone but now only a landline? Did her son live with her previously?

I don't know about any ties that were cut, but it sounds like there was some sort of unhappiness about how the father's estate was divided Exteremly common after the death of parents. Her siblings don't live in Quincy, so she didn't move because they were there. I think only her son - who must be in his late 30's or so - and her ex live in Quincy now. If she'd wanted to be away from her ex, however, you'd think she would have moved away a very long time ago as Laina indicated the divorce was in the early 2oo0's. Also, while they are very different sorts of places, Hanson isn't far away from Quincy distance-wise. A half hour by car or train.

Whether Sandra had friends in the Quincy area that she wished to disassociate from is not known, but her daughter, SIL and cousin have insisted she had no friends outside of her family members.

 

[BostonTimes]

One of the many, many terrible things about the coronavirus pandemic is that Sandra and those like her, the vanished, slip further and further away. Months will be lost in the search for the truth.

Why couldn't anyone search because of the pandemic? 6 feet apart and outisde. I do not see any problem with a search outside and masks worn.

 

[BostonTimes]

This is the only image I've seen where you can see her eye color clearly. It's the color my family called hazel, but is more correctly called blue or green. Genetically, isn't green a variation of blue eyes?

Missing local woman has reported sightings in Fall River

This was her license and most recent picture

 

[BostonTimes]

Can't be discussed here, but neighbors have been vocal on some town fb pages. You'll have to go back quite a ways in time and some comments/threads are now deleted but you may get a sense of what you're looking for.

I have heard the houses are beyond close and that the house is on a dead end street with only 1 car dirt lane as I did see pictures on channel 25. What do neighbors from there say?

 

[BostonTimes]

One year later, still no sign of missing Hanson woman (video at link)

Sandra Crispo vanished from Hanson, Massachusetts exactly one year ago, August 7, 2019.

Since then, not a single piece of evidence has publicly surfaced to suggest whether the 54-year-old grandmother is alive or dead.

“It’s so frustrating,” Sandra’s daughter, Laina McMahon, told me. “It’s a very emotional time for my family right now.”

In the most recent podcast the vanished laina says no siblings of Sandra are involved. So who is the family? Laina and her brother.

 

[BostonTimes]

There are many things with this case that don't sit well. It's possible that Sandra had circumstances in her life that the daughter ( Laina) is totally unaware of. It is fortunate the Laina's husband Tim McMahon's family runs the Hannon Foundation. They were able to help the family financially, so that Laina could take a leave of absence from her job as an RN. She serves as the primary contact for the investigation. This is one positive for the family during this horrific and stressful time. The Hannon Foundation

If Laina worked she would get paid while out.

 

[MimosaMornings]

If Laina worked she would get paid while out.

Depending on how much vacation/sick leave/personal time off - the most I ever had per year was 4 weeks.
She could have taken FMLA perhaps.

 

[Hazelnutty]

Checking in for Sandra.

 

[Loulou15]

I live in an area that is close to Hanson. Was the house a flip? If it was did they look into the crews that worked on the house? Did they change the locks prior to moving her in? My son bought a house that was a flip in the local area and in fixing things and checking spaces after closing, we found empty liquor bottles and syringes in different areas of the house, left from the crews working in the house. Also in MA you can pretty easily find out that what they sold in house in Quincy for and that they paid cash for the house in Hanson. Maybe someone thought she had money from the sale outside of the family....

 

[HarmonyE.]

I live in an area that is close to Hanson. Was the house a flip? If it was did they look into the crews that worked on the house? Did they change the locks prior to moving her in? My son bought a house that was a flip in the local area and in fixing things and checking spaces after closing, we found empty liquor bottles and syringes in different areas of the house, left from the crews working in the house. Also in MA you can pretty easily find out that what they sold in house in Quincy for and that they paid cash for the house in Hanson. Maybe someone thought she had money from the sale outside of the family....

The Hanson house was a flip, but the doors were replaced, so it's a safe bet the locks were too. Sandra sold her father's house for 385,000 and paid 240,000 for the Hanson house. Assuming there was no mortgage and assuming a 5% realtor fee, that would have her clearing about 125k, not including any attorney's fees, home improvement costs for the Quincy house pre-sale, or moving expenses. As Sandra didn't have a debit card, I assume she had a bank account her daughter managed. I can't see Sandra's daughter being okay with Sandra stashing money in a mattress, but I suppose someone may have thought it possible.