Madeleine McCann 3 year old missing in Portugal - Part 6

[englishleigh]

and also IF the suicide rumor is true... and again I state I haven't run down an article that states this other than forum chatter... why would you kill yourself if there was a chance your child would be returned? I would think that you would hold onto the very last thread of life...

Exactly, JDee...but you might be thinking of suicide if you'd done something to hurt your child, wouldn't you? Like leaving her all alone to be abducted...or worse.

 

[Jdee]

I am still up in the air on the abduction 'theory'. What bothers me about it is simply.. IF someone came in that room and snatched her, they had no idea before they walked in, if she would be asleep, if the other two twins would be asleep, if any 3 of them would not scream out in terror at a stranger creeping in the room.. or worse put up a struggle making tons of racket... Even if they had been watching the room for days.. they still would not know how 3 very young children would react when the 'abductor' came in the room. I would THINK they would fear a toddler screaming out and alerting someone if nothing else.
I tend to think Madeleine just walked out of the room. Now what happened after that is anyone's guess.

 

[colomom]

Exactly, JDee...but you might be thinking of suicide if you'd done something to hurt your child, wouldn't you? Like leaving her all alone to be abducted...or worse.

I have always thought that if I really believed my child had been abducted by someone who might hurt and/or scare her, the thoughts in my mind would drive me to suicide, just to silence those "pictures". But then I think about my other child and I don't know if I could bear to do that to them.

On the other hand, if I had been involved with a horrible deception and lost a child, and maybe at the hands of my husband, I honestly don't know how I could survive that. Of course, if I came clean I could grieve my lost child, give the husband an ultimatum and take my surviving child and move on. With lots of therapy and time.

It is really hard to say how I would react, I have experienced great trauma in my life and survived it even when I could not have imagined doing so.

Hope that's not too confusing.

I really feel badly for the McCanns, even with anger toward them. I think they are living a hell on earth.

 

[Shazza]

I have always thought that if I really believed my child had been abducted by someone who might hurt and/or scare her, the thoughts in my mind would drive me to suicide, just to silence those "pictures". But then I think about my other child and I don't know if I could bear to do that to them.

On the other hand, if I had been involved with a horrible deception and lost a child, and maybe at the hands of my husband, I honestly don't know how I could survive that. Of course, if I came clean I could grieve my lost child, give the husband an ultimatum and take my surviving child and move on. With lots of therapy and time.

It is really hard to say how I would react, I have experienced great trauma in my life and survived it even when I could not have imagined doing so.

Hope that's not too confusing.

I really feel badly for the McCanns, even with anger toward them. I think they are living a hell on earth.

No more news of Madlelaine, but plenty more on the parents, which I am not going to waste my time typing about them.
I to am not sure how I would react, to any of what you have stated colomom, but there is one thing I know for sure I would not have left my children alone.

 

[Luanne]

It is BIZARRE that she immediately ran out and said someone had "taken" the child. Its amazingly suspicious. I have a small child and if I found him not in his bed, I'd immediately be tearing the room apart to find him. If I didn't find him, I'd be calling the front desk to have them put everyone on alert because the next logical step is to assume he left the room looking for me. It woudln't occur to me that someone "took" him, until later. When it had time to sink in.

why assume that? Paranoid and illogical? Or staged?

Staged seems the simplest answer. I believe in occams razor.

Just reminds me of Scott calling Laci's parents to tell them she was "missing"....without looking for her. And about all the photos of them smiling, wasn't Scott caught on camera with the biggest smile at Laci's vigil? Hmm....

 

[BethInAK]

Thanks SewingDeb, is that a American colloquial saying. Have never heard it here in Australia.

Hi Shazza!
Its a scientific theory of some sort. Most americans wouldnt' use it in average conversation but it applies quite well to crime scenarios - often the most obvious solution is the correct one, even if there is no evidence to support it.

where in Oz are you? My nieces and SIL are Australian. My brother and his family live in Melbourne.

 

[BethInAK]

having trouble getting my head around it all....:doh:

check this out in the meantime, just posted on Mikes blog:-
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=12661490&postID=1096339535276263377&isPopup=true

Anonymous said... Are you able to comment to the Mirror Forum users, that I have been worried about Kate's arm bruises since I first saw them around Day 8, when they looked like they were healing. She had been wearing sleeves before then. This photo shows them clearly.

http://www.exposay.com/kate-mccann-...e-mccann-in-portugal/p/10561/9/?f=Kate McCann

haven't heard of the 'suicide attempts' as I say having terrible trouble getting my head around all this

I'd think that a physician who truly wished to committ suicide would find it easy to do so. Access to things we don't have, like scalpels.

 

[Texana]

Darnit, I'm having trouble finding the exact link on the blog for the timeline article--can anyone post that exact link?

 

[colomom]

Darnit, I'm having trouble finding the exact link on the blog for the timeline article--can anyone post that exact link?

Do you mean the link at the top of this page (post # 251)?

 

[Texana]

Do you mean the link at the top of this page (post # 251)?

That's it! Thank you! I went to the blog and couldn't find it, and couldn't find it via googling, either. I must have overlooked it in my eagerness to find it.

Confirms what I always suspected: there was very little "checking in" on the children.

 

[CaliKid]

Not here in print for the past couple of days but here in spirit. The various theories coming out lately are very interesting. I especially like the anonymous response to our Aussie blogger, Mike Hitchen.
http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/2007/07/finding-truth-leaving-no-grub-untouched.html

It's nice to see the timeline reconstructed in a clear way.

Bruises on KM's arms? Hmmmm. GM has always struck me as a man with a temper, and I think he's the power behind the throne, so to speak. Could there be some implied threat to KM to maintain the status quo?

 

[CaliKid]

A new blog is out: http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/2007/07/too-damn-little-too-damn-late.html
Surprise-surprise! The British media is starting to take a second look at how they kow-towed to the McCanns early in the investigation and were too sympathetic toward them and not objective enough in their questioning. It's about time!

Stop the media blackout in the UK. Open the floodgates and start posing the tough questions about when and how Madeleine disappeared. Put the pressure on the PLE to reinvestigate every single bit of evidence. And that includes the parents.

 

[Tristan]

Can someone tell me where I can find the link to the timeline, as well as a
list of all the discrepancies?
I cannot find the one everyone is talking about, and I really want to see it.

Thanks!!

 

[lizziedripping]

Can someone tell me where I can find the link to the timeline, as well as a
list of all the discrepancies?
I cannot find the one everyone is talking about, and I really want to see it.

Thanks!!

I can't find it either............ it's probably there right in front of my eyes but I can't see it!!

 

[Shazza]

Hi Shazza!
Its a scientific theory of some sort. Most americans wouldnt' use it in average conversation but it applies quite well to crime scenarios - often the most obvious solution is the correct one, even if there is no evidence to support it.

where in Oz are you? My nieces and SIL are Australian. My brother and his family live in Melbourne.

Melbourne is Kazzbar's neck of the woods, which is in the state of Victoria, I live in a country town called Singleton which is in the state of NSW, which is about a 10hr drive from Melbourne.

Thanks for explaining occams razor, makes sense now.

 

[colomom]

Here is another bit of interesting reading (thanks MoonGoddess):
http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=74847#74847

It is also posted on Mikes Blog: http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine McCann

It is the 10th comment, under the first article titled: "Finding Truth - Leaving no grub untouched" Day 34

Have a good day all!

The original article (in spanish) is here: http://sol.sapo.pt/PaginaInicial/Sociedade/Interior.aspx?content_id=42529

Hope that is what you are looking for!

 

[Jdee]

A new blog is out: http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/2007/07/too-damn-little-too-damn-late.html
Surprise-surprise! The British media is starting to take a second look at how they kow-towed to the McCanns early in the investigation and were too sympathetic toward them and not objective enough in their questioning. It's about time!

Stop the media blackout in the UK. Open the floodgates and start posing the tough questions about when and how Madeleine disappeared. Put the pressure on the PLE to reinvestigate every single bit of evidence. And that includes the parents.

I feel like this will be washed over Cali... Whether the parents are guilty or not of doing 'something' to Madeleine I believe they need to be investigated. In America they would be the first 'suspects' the LE would look at. Typically a crime is commited by someone you know or are close to. It is not always the case but I think if nothing else the parents need to be ruled out. They haven't been. The LE have not proved to me that they are innocent in this crime.
I think Madeleine woke up, and wandered out. I think M came back and found her standing in the hall or outside... That's what I think. What happened from that moment forward I don't know. I don't think Mrs. M though knew what happened or knows what happened. My gut tells me that. A kidnapping has not been proven here...

 

[Trino]

Could they question the parents in Portugal w/o them being so lawyered up?

 

[Shazza]

Could they question the parents in Portugal w/o them being so lawyered up?

If the parents have nothing to hide then being questioned by any police should not pose any problems, I think insisting on having lawyers with them would show they do have something to hide. But I too also think they need to be questioned and investigated further.

 

[meowy]

The bruises may mean nothing too, if she's on any medication at all to thin her blood, that may be all it is. Someone may have still grabbed her arm, but she'd bruise at lighter pressure than other people if she's on anything.

I still bruise pretty nasty while on baby asprin. On Plavix, I was a walking bruise.