Madeleine McCann found?

[Tulessa]

Great minds and all that good stuff!
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/434704/Clues-spark-new-Madeleine-McCann-hunt

Clues spark new Madeleine McCann hunt

THE hunt for Madeleine McCann took a decisive turn last night after her parents said for the first time that pieces of the jigsaw are finally fitting together

From the link.
As Scotland Yard detectives prepare to fly to Portugal after a TV reconstruction, Kate and Gerry McCann said they take heart from the details now emerging.

They said: “We are really hopeful that the forthcoming appeal on Crimewatch will bring further new evidence which will take us a step closer to finding Madeleine and to bringing those responsible for her abduction to justice.” At the The McCanns’ statement, released through Scotland Yard, added: “We are greatly encouraged by new information coming to light with pieces of the jigsaw now fitting together.”

The gathering momentum and the confidence in the statements suggests arrests may be imminent in the coming weeks.

I truly believe this child is alive, and the parents are innocent. ALL IMO though.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

What I do believe is that there must be something that has reinvigorated the case. It feels like there is a buzz and something may break soon!! HOPING!!!

 

[Inana]

She did lie.

She claimed that she received a plea bargain from the Portugese police, but Portugese Law does not allow for plea bargains.

She claimed that she didn't look for Madeleine in the first hours because she and Gerry were "non-functioning", then goes on to claim that she and Gerry were the only ones looking that night after the initial search.

The "non-functioning" parents also had enough wit to draw up a timeline of their own actions, unasked, before the PJ even arrived, and call all their friends and family back home.

She lied when she said the window had been "jemmied".

She lied when she said she had been in contact with corpses before the trip.

I could go on but you get my drift.

:twocents:

Would respectfully request links for the "lies" you accuse Kate of. I could simply supply links (from the mccannfiles and McCannPJfiles) that prove the above claims are false, but these claims are stated over and over in these threads, and no links are ever supplied to prove this stance. Please advise?! In particular, when was it ever reported that Kate had no contact with corpses?

 

[Inana]

"what is missing" is the willingness of the Tapas crew to be reinterviewed or to participate in a reconstruction, which has been repeatedly requested and denied. :moo:

The witnesses identified Gerry.

The proof that the child is dead = something frozen containing McCann DNA dripped while defrosting in the trunk of the hire car, 24 days later.

No one else ever died in 5a.

DNA consistent with Madeleine found in the exact same place the Cadaver dog alerted.


:seeya:

Would really like links for these statements as well. "DNA dripped while defrosting?" Talk about hyperbole.

 

[SapphireSteel]

All you need do is search the threads to find the links, but I will work on providing as requested.

Now, I'm reposting MY question - which I have asked over and over with no reply, ever -

"what is missing" is the willingness of the Tapas crew to be reinterviewed or to participate in a reconstruction, which has been repeatedly requested and denied. :moo:

The witnesses identified Gerry.

The proof that the child is dead = something frozen containing McCann DNA dripped while defrosting in the trunk of the hire car, 24 days later.

No one else ever died in 5a.

DNA consistent with Madeleine found in the exact same place the Cadaver dog alerted.

So, how about that other scenario? What evidence points to IDI?

:seeya:

I've been asking and asking, but all we ever get is The PJ are Crap, the dogs are crap, the DNA is crap, the McCanns were wonderful parents.

So...please, anyone here arguing so passionately that the McCanns are entirely blameless - give us some evidence!!!!!!!

Even a credible scenario? Anything at all with substance so we can get on with sleuthing instead of criticising?

lease:

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

First piece of evidence for me is that that Jane saw someone carrying a little girl away. She saw the person taking Maddie, IMO and that is the biggest proof there is right now of anything.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/apr/11/madeleinemccann

 

[blefuscu]

First piece of evidence for me is that that Jane saw someone carrying a little girl away. She saw the person taking Maddie, IMO and that is the biggest proof there is right now of anything.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/apr/11/madeleinemccann

Her continual changes in her sighting make her uncredible as a witness. I've explained why in the other thread.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Her continual changes in her sighting make her uncredible as a witness. I've explained why in the other thread.

Links to support your claims about her please.

I don't see any of those things as big issues. She saw a man with a child. AT the time she probably did not think to get details. It was not odd to her until Maddie was missing and then it was most likely a frantic attempt to remember..

 

[blefuscu]

Links to support your claims about her please.

I don't see any of those things as big issues. She saw a man with a child. AT the time she probably did not think to get details. It was not odd to her until Maddie was missing and then it was most likely a frantic attempt to remember..

I have done. In the other thread. Her sightings change in more than one significant details over several recountings.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

A link to support the claims you are making about Jane please.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Ahhh Tanner. She is the weakest link.

All I want is for someone to bring some charges against this crew so they have to stand in a witness box.

A lot of people don't know that Kate flatly refused to answer any questions when formally interviewed. Just outright refused to say anything other than her name and address.

I'm no brain surgeon or "part time GP" but even I can see, behaving like this with the only people who are looking for her, isn't going to help to find your child.

The unfortunate thing about Tanner is, she liked answering questions. She got more and more embellished every time. People also don't remember that she later positively identified Robert Murat as stealing Madeleine. This was proven to be inaccurate, the guy had nothing to do with it apart from being overly helpful.

So, she just keeps talking. It's no longer Murat, the description becomes much more vivid than she first reported, in fact completely altered.

Unfortunately the more you talk, the more there is to pull apart. That's why Kate refused to speak when interviewed by the PJ.

:sick:

 

[LinasK]

Ahhh Tanner. She is the weakest link.

All I want is for someone to bring some charges against this crew so they have to stand in a witness box.

A lot of people don't know that Kate flatly refused to answer any questions when formally interviewed. Just outright refused to say anything other than her name and address.

I'm no brain surgeon or "part time GP" but even I can see, behaving like this with the only people who are looking for her, isn't going to help to find your child.

The unfortunate thing about Tanner is, she liked answering questions. She got more and more embellished every time. People also don't remember that she later positively identified Robert Murat as stealing Madeleine. This was proven to be inaccurate, the guy had nothing to do with it apart from being overly helpful.

So, she just keeps talking. It's no longer Murat, the description becomes much more vivid than she first reported, in fact completely altered.

Unfortunately the more you talk, the more there is to pull apart. That's why Kate refused to speak when interviewed by the PJ.

:sick:

So Jane Tanner is the John Mark Karr of this case?

 

[SapphireSteel]

Would respectfully request links for the "lies" you accuse Kate of. I could simply supply links (from the mccannfiles and McCannPJfiles) that prove the above claims are false, but these claims are stated over and over in these threads, and no links are ever supplied to prove this stance. Please advise?! In particular, when was it ever reported that Kate had no contact with corpses?

Hows this -

Q. What evidence do you have to support your version?

Gonçalo Amaral: There are several. We constantly noted the contradictions in the statements of the McCanns and their friends. An Irish couple say that they saw Gerald McCann, on the evening of the events, with a child in his arms. In terms of findings, we discovered the fingerprint of Kate McCann on the window of Madeleine's room. The shape of the fingerprint indicates that it has opened this window. But she says that the window was open when she entered the room. It is therefore clear that she wanted to steer the investigation toward the thesis of the abduction. Finally, there is scientific evidence. The dogs detected a scent of corpse in the living room and discovered a trace of blood in the same place. Traces which were also discovered in the rental car.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id173.html


Go Goncalo! :rockon:

"contradictions" is LE speak for LIES.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Hows this -

Q. What evidence do you have to support your version?

Gonçalo Amaral: There are several. We constantly noted the contradictions in the statements of the McCanns and their friends. An Irish couple say that they saw Gerald McCann, on the evening of the events, with a child in his arms. In terms of findings, we discovered the fingerprint of Kate McCann on the window of Madeleine's room. The shape of the fingerprint indicates that it has opened this window. But she says that the window was open when she entered the room. It is therefore clear that she wanted to steer the investigation toward the thesis of the abduction. Finally, there is scientific evidence. The dogs detected a scent of corpse in the living room and discovered a trace of blood in the same place. Traces which were also discovered in the rental car.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id173.html


Go Goncalo! :rockon:

"contradictions" is LE speak for LIES.

Yep, and innocent people have no need to lie or a reason to refuse to cooperate with LE when their child is missing.




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[SapphireSteel]

Yep, and innocent people have no need to lie or a reason to refuse to cooperate with LE when their child is missing.




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I think I'd be cemented to their side, tbh. Their new bff. In the station every day, or at least calling/emailing.

It was always my greatest fear. My little girl is not much older than Madeleine.

I wouldn't even open a window for her naps when I was in the house, that's how frightened I was of someone taking her. I got ducted a/c and great big window locks.

 

[Inana]

Hows this -

Q. What evidence do you have to support your version?

Gonçalo Amaral: There are several. We constantly noted the contradictions in the statements of the McCanns and their friends. An Irish couple say that they saw Gerald McCann, on the evening of the events, with a child in his arms. In terms of findings, we discovered the fingerprint of Kate McCann on the window of Madeleine's room. The shape of the fingerprint indicates that it has opened this window. But she says that the window was open when she entered the room. It is therefore clear that she wanted to steer the investigation toward the thesis of the abduction. Finally, there is scientific evidence. The dogs detected a scent of corpse in the living room and discovered a trace of blood in the same place. Traces which were also discovered in the rental car.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id173.html


Go Goncalo! :rockon:

"contradictions" is LE speak for LIES.

I have provided links over and over in previous posts that disprove these conspiracy theories.

The link provided is AMARAL's version from his book. That is no evidence. That is his opinion, a disgraced ex-policeman, convicted of false documentation, ticked off because of his public 'flogging'. Amaral declared the McCann's suspects days AFTER the FSS told him there was no usable DNA evidence. A man who quit his job when it was just too much for his ego to take, being moved off a case. Kicked to the curb. He had gotten way to big for his britches, and even the PJ could see it.

 

[SapphireSteel]

I have provided links over and over in previous posts that disprove these conspiracy theories.

The link provided is AMARAL's version from his book. That is no evidence. That is his opinion, a disgraced ex-policeman, convicted of false documentation, ticked off because of his public 'flogging'. Amaral declared the McCann's suspects days AFTER the FSS told him there was no usable DNA evidence. A man who quit his job when it was just too much for his ego to take, being moved off a case. Kicked to the curb. He had gotten way to big for his britches, and even the PJ could see it.

You do know that the PJ is not just comprised of Amaral, right? He had bosses and colleagues (some of them English) who all agreed? :waitasec:

The McCanns attempt to ban the book failed as the judge pointed out, quite rightly, that it was a faithful retelling of the investigation.

 

[Gem2626]

Hows this -

Q. What evidence do you have to support your version?

Gonçalo Amaral: There are several. We constantly noted the contradictions in the statements of the McCanns and their friends. An Irish couple say that they saw Gerald McCann, on the evening of the events, with a child in his arms. In terms of findings, we discovered the fingerprint of Kate McCann on the window of Madeleine's room. The shape of the fingerprint indicates that it has opened this window. But she says that the window was open when she entered the room. It is therefore clear that she wanted to steer the investigation toward the thesis of the abduction. Finally, there is scientific evidence. The dogs detected a scent of corpse in the living room and discovered a trace of blood in the same place. Traces which were also discovered in the rental car.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id173.html


Go Goncalo! :rockon:

"contradictions" is LE speak for LIES.

Where has this come from? There is nothing in the forensic reports that state this about the fingerprint being in that position which is strange. But why is this even considered evidence? Why would it be strange that Kate's fingerprint is on the window in the apartment they were holidaying in?

Of course he'd bring up the Martin Smith sighting whilst ignoring that Martin Smith was only 60-80% sure that the person he saw was Gerry Mccann.

There's a woman who says she 100% saw Madeleine (face and all) in Spain. But we all know the chances of it being her are pretty slim.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Where has this come from? There is nothing in the forensic reports that state this about the fingerprint being in that position which is strange. But why is this even considered evidence? Why would it be strange that Kate's fingerprint is on the window in the apartment they were holidaying in?

Of course he'd bring up the Martin Smith sighting whilst ignoring that Martin Smith was only 60-80% sure that the person he saw was Gerry Mccann.

There's a woman who says she 100% saw Madeleine (face and all) in Spain. But we all know the chances of it being her are pretty slim.

I don't believe a thing that amaral has to say.

He is not unbiased. And he was taken off the case.


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[Inana]

Where has this come from? There is nothing in the forensic reports that state this about the fingerprint being in that position which is strange. But why is this even considered evidence? Why would it be strange that Kate's fingerprint is on the window in the apartment they were holidaying in?

Of course he'd bring up the Martin Smith sighting whilst ignoring that Martin Smith was only 60-80% sure that the person he saw was Gerry Mccann.

There's a woman who says she 100% saw Madeleine (face and all) in Spain. But we all know the chances of it being her are pretty slim.

With ya, Gem. If I found my child gone and the window open, my prints would be all over that window, in a panic, trying to find her, to see if she could have gone out, or even opened it. That is not evidence. So she left fingerprints on the window.

And the Smith siting has been discredited by the Portuguese AND English, because Gerry was with the GNR and PJ and about 100 witnesses at the Ocean Club at that exact time.