Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread #27

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By the words of his owner in rogatory letters Eddie is alerting on dry blood.
When the places where Eddie alerted were investigated by scientists they found out the DNA belong to 3 men, Gerry McCann and two Portuguese Police officers. all three alive and well!
So, the DNA from the places Eddie alerted to were from living humans!
Eddie (cadaver) and Keela (blood) alerted at the same exact spot. That spot was behind the couch and surprise-surprise, McCann's had moved the couch against the wall where the scent was.
 
I'm sure he heard about the sighting and I think that AR implied that he did.

But I'm not so sure that everybody would have been so keen to get mixed up in a notorious crime case and tell the police "hey, your main suspect, actually it's me".

It happens that important witnesses keep their quiet. People might think that their testimony doesn't matter because they're not involved or be afraid that they won't be believed and that they will become suspects, at least in the minds of the general public if not the police, and they don't want the notoriety and don't want to be bothered with depositions and testifying in court and figure that it's just easier overall to shut up and mind your own business.

MOO.

Hum i see what your saying but if your not guilty of anything, and you realise your walking a child through PDL and clocked by a witness is causing a massive manhunt would you really ignore it, why?

No one would need to know they come forward, just that the sighting was discounted. Also I believe it would have been clarified at the time who was moving children about between the hours of 8pm and 11pm.

I think the sighting of tanners was always baloney to be honest it wasnt logical......
 
My understanding is that the dogs and car were all disproven. Kate, being a G.P might well have come into contact with death as a G.P here has to visit if a death occurs at home. I think they are supposed to register the cause of death. I would imagine she could have proved what went on before the holiday in her practice from practice records, but I have never heard if that was looked at. The transfer of any 'smell of death' could be from her being at work and then collecting and looking after Madeleine on a day when she was the G.P called to a home with a home bereavement. I think there is also an inquest when that happens, so proof of Kate's contact has to be evident? I Madeleine was at a childminder or nursery, proof of where she was and Kate's subsequent movements would be there as all of them have, by law, to keep records and parents usually sign they took their child.

If there had been a way to prove the Mccanns did anything to Maddie the PJ would have been all over it as they clearly wanted them to be guilty.

On another note, if a window was open and you had two babies in a room, even if you knew there had been a break in, if you believed your other child had been abducted, would you not, perhaps automatically, close that window. Would that explain why it is not open? Would that explain why the window was closed from the inside? I think, if those babies appeared to be asleep, I would also have left them, but closed a window thinking of the draft. (So what was the weather like that night?) Might I do this in a daze, not thinking of the consequences of doing so?

We discussed this at length on mirror forum before it was zapped

Did she never wash or change her clothes then?

It was also mooted she took maddys toy to work with her everyday to be close to her BEFORE she went on holiday.

As to babies, wouldnt you if you had thought your child had been abducted, woken up the other two babies, and made sure they were ok and safe not drugged or anything even had them checked at hospital, and then secured them safely whilst you assisted in search etc.

I do find it odd the twins were never woken up or moved away.

ALSO how did the window get opened? The patio door was left unlocked.

The childrens bedroom had shutters which were down and the window closed.

You would never leave the shutters up and the windows unsecured, they slide dont they anyone could get in and there had been burglaries in the area, wouldnt the holiday people warn everyone to secure their apartments and belongings????

IF Mrs McCann did shut the window, then why not just say so.

Its all very odd......
 
Hum i see what your saying but if your not guilty of anything, and you realise your walking a child through PDL and clocked by a witness is causing a massive manhunt would you really ignore it, why?
No one would need to know they come forward, just that the sighting was discounted. Also I believe it would have been clarified at the time who was moving children about between the hours of 8pm and 11pm.

I think the sighting of tanners was always baloney to be honest it wasnt logical......

But it didn't cause a massive manhunt. As far as I can tell, no one among the Tapas group rushed in that direction when Ms. Tanner told them she saw a Madeleine-like girl in pink pajamas being carried in that direction. Wouldn't you have proceeded in that exact direction shouting your daughter's name if you had heard that? There was always the posibility that she would hear your voice and respond.
(I agree with your baloney opinion!)
 
Could someone tell my why, since this event happened in Portugal, that Scotland Yard is investigating?

Did the Portuguese law enforcement bureau request help from Scotland Yard?

Are the McCann's funding the British investigation with the money they've collected for the "find Madeleine" fund (or whatever they call it)?

Is this country-to-country sharing of resources a common practice for Great Britain?

TIA
 
Could someone tell my why, since this event happened in Portugal, that Scotland Yard is investigating?

Did the Portuguese law enforcement bureau request help from Scotland Yard?

Are the McCann's funding the British investigation with the money they've collected for the "find Madeleine" fund (or whatever they call it)?

Is this country-to-country sharing of resources a common practice for Great Britain?

TIA


It's good to have friends in high places I guess. The McCanns requested it and David Cameron agreed, apparently. I wonder if other missing children's cases are taken as seriously by the government and if not, why not.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13386785



2011

12 May: In an open letter in the Sun newspaper, the McCanns ask the prime minister to launch an "independent, transparent and comprehensive" review of all information relating to Madeleine's disappearance.

They publish a book, entitled Madeleine, which they hope will prompt people holding vital information about what happened to Madeleine to come forward. Sale proceeds will go towards the Find Madeleine fund.

13 May: Prime Minister David Cameron writes to the McCanns telling them the home secretary will be in touch to set out "new action" involving the Metropolitan Police.

6 September: The McCanns are among alleged victims who request to be "core participants" in the first part of the Leveson Inquiry into the phone-hacking scandal.

9 September: British detectives reviewing the search for Madeleine hold their first face-to-face meetings with Portuguese police chiefs.
 
Could someone tell my why, since this event happened in Portugal, that Scotland Yard is investigating?

Did the Portuguese law enforcement bureau request help from Scotland Yard?

Are the McCann's funding the British investigation with the money they've collected for the "find Madeleine" fund (or whatever they call it)?

Is this country-to-country sharing of resources a common practice for Great Britain?

TIA
According to the daily mail, Theresa May, Home Secretary agreed to fund the investigation after PJ refused to reopen it.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Maddies-disappearance-Portuguese-police.html
 
I think I'll take a break until we have something new to chew over, which I'm sure will happen soon. :please:

Until then its just going over the same old criticism of the dogs, the pj, the forensics, which I'm finding increasingly inaccurate as new facts emerge.

The British are essentially recreating Amarals investigation. It remains to be seen if they can get the cooperation of the main players where the PJ failed.

:seeya:
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Many people believe Madeleine is dead. I believe she is not, and was definitely kidnapped, and that it is possible she can be found and brought home. Why? Because I believe in miracles.

For example: I spent years telling my son to make sure he wore clean underwear because "what if you get in an accident". And what seems like years more telling him if he HAS to ride bikes and later motorcycles to at least wear a helmet because "what if you get in an accident". On June 22 a deer knocked him off of his motorcycle at 60 mph shattering his helmet and left leg. When they were cutting off his pants at the hospital, he said to the nurse, "thank god I'm wearing clean underwear. My mom would have killed me."

Miracles happen...

I know, way off topic, but hope it makes someone smile.
 
I thought on the 2nd August the dog was taken to the villa of the McCanns and shown certain items and reacted to them, red top i think, toy, and other bits, and then was taken to a car park where other cars were parked and pointed to the cans Renault car so it wasnt only the apartment he was used.

He also i believed indicated outside an apartment ABOVE the McCanns..which i have always found of interest.

Sometimes I think what if there was some vent hole or something in the ceiling that they opened up and put her in temporarily? I'm assuming the police would have checked anything like that, and plus I don't knwo if the dog would have been able to alert to that from down below or not.
 
I suspect they were checking the coast was clear.

:scared:

Perhaps. Sigh.

I have a very hard time believe that all of the Tapas group were involved. I mean, I can understand one or two of them being crazy, but all 9 of them? Having said that, though................
It was so strange during the "reconstruction" when they showed that part where Gerry was talking to the man under the window, and then a friend (Matt?) walks by to check his kids, and then Jane walks by to check her kids......(sorry if I don't have the names right!). I just remember thinking it was so odd...they were supposed to be having dinner/drinks, yet all of them were constantly walking about. Like someone else said, that defeats the whole purpose of leaving the kids in the rooms in the first place - so they can enjoy a quiet dinner.
I don't know......
 
Clear for what?

You think all nine of them were in on some kind of conspiracy about Madeleine's death? :facepalm:

If we're supposed to keep our minds open to the possibility that a pedo-group were canvassing and keeping tabs on them for days, and then abducted Madeleine (pre-planned), took her out to some boat and drifted off into the ocean, where now she's part of a ring where even though there's a 1 million euro reward, no one has said a word about her.................

Then we have to keep open ALL possibilities.
 
The reason why Jane Tanner's 'bundleman' did not come forward.... don't forget that she was emphatic that she saw him walking away from the McC's apartment....

On Crimewatch it was stated "The British father had collected his daughter from the crèche, he had been walking near the McCann’s apartment"...

'The British father' was not walking in the direction that JT insisted 'bundleman' was.... that's why he did not come forward...
 
I am having a disheartened moment. I cannot help but be cynical with regards to the little blonde girl found living with the Roma. Seems a little coincidental that one of the earliest theories surrounding the Madeleine case was that she was 'abducted by gypsies' and here, just when Madeleine is back in the news, we see a child recovered giving the McCanns 'renewed hope'. Heckish coincidental don't you think.

Also we hear that Bundleman supposedly exists (never mind that Tanner said he was going the other way), and she now appears, to Joe Public, to have been telling the truth all along.

As for the Smiths' sighting, how long until the investigation reveals a faceless someone who they say walked down that side street that night, looking a bit like GM, carrying a child? Then no more leads, closure....and loads more book material.

The Government helped the McCanns in 2007 and are now spending taxpayers' money on this investigation. The McCanns wanted it. I think I can guess the outcome. I hope I'm wrong.

jmo
 
Thanks to all who answered my questions about how Scotland Yard became involved.
 
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