Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #11

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Apparently the Winnebago cost 40.000 euro at the time:
IN DEPTH: Police in Portugal start searching wells in Maddie McCann case as investigations intensify - Olive Press News Spain

So an estimation of how much one or similar, may have cost at the time, is what I think they are saying here.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

Thanks for the pic, Betty. Unfortunately that's made of concrete and metal.

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Oh I know - plus the road is too narrow, doesn’t have fine sand on it like you’d get near a beach etc etc
I was just showing you what we were chatting about

 

[MENDEL]

IMHO a crucial witness, NF, is talking to German LE. Like the Foral's couple said, she and BP couldn't ignore what CB did. More so NF who lived with him at the time.

 

[MENDEL]

Oh I know - plus the road is too narrow, doesn’t have fine sand on it like you’d get near a beach etc etc
I was just showing you what we were chatting about

That was very cool on your part, Betty.

 

[MENDEL]

IMHO IAPRS may not just be a coincidence. When CB met NF he learned about illegal children living in Portugal and that that yielded lots of cash, something he loved. That's perhaps why he said "you can carry drugs and kids here [Allegro] and no one will know", which didn't seem strange to listener at the time. IAPRS might also have connections to illegal adoption, another gold pot for which they had know-how almost for sure. IAPRS left behind a [legal] debt in excess of half a million euros to Portuguese IRS. This is perhaps the iceberg.

 

[Deleted member 268067]

It was possible that CB could have saved that money for the Allegro from all his stealing, after all it was him aim to save 1m eu. I guess he didn't quite save that much though.
He's on a murder charge, so LE obvs think MM was murdered and not trafficked imo

There was mention in the telegraph though - I think from the guy who was an acquaintance in Ausberg - about him suddenly having a lot of money when he returned in 2007. Speculation at the time was he was perhaps paid for MM (unlikely) or for film footage.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Let’s assume for now that he sold a sexual snuff video. How much may that have cost someone or a group of someones in those days? (Assuming snuff video purely as I imagine that would be greater cost).

 

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Let’s assume for now that he sold a sexual snuff video. How much may that have cost someone or a group of someones in those days? (Assuming snuff video purely as I imagine that would be greater cost).

I have literally have no idea how much - I can't keep googling these things otherwise I'll soon be flagged up by GCHQ!

 

[haden]

IMHO IAPRS may not just be a coincidence. When CB met NF he learned about illegal children living in Portugal and that that yielded lots of cash, something he loved. That's perhaps why he said "you can carry drugs and kids here [Allegro] and no one will know", which didn't seem strange to listener at the time. IAPRS might also have connections to illegal adoption, another gold pot for which they had know-how almost for sure. IAPRS left behind a [legal] debt in excess of half a million euros to Portuguese IRS. This is perhaps the iceberg.

But the revelation "you can carry drugs and kids" was from Nicole's dad Dieter. He said if he knew back then what CB was up to he would have broken his bones.
I checked the old guy on FB if it is him. The profile is very strange with lots of teenage girls from all over the world on his friends list. Maybe this was not the real guy, who knows. And he has a Nicole on his friends list and her surname is different. In fact two profiles of this person.

His daughter could have been involved only without his knowledge. Otherwise, he would not have said that.

 

[Dlk79]

What on earth is going on? So was any of the well search aspect based on German LE intelligence or purely Portugal LE acting on their own?

Madeleine McCann police failed to tell prosecutors about plan to search wells

Portuguese police sent divers to explore three wells last week in the search for Maddie, although they failed to tell German prosecutors about the dives amid calls for a joint investigation

German prosecutors were not told about fresh searches for Madeleine McCann – and say they do not even know what prompted them.

Mr Wolters, overseeing the investigation into paedophile Brueckner, said of Thursday’s search: “I read about it, but the measures were not taken in consultation with us.

The Portuguese police are investigating themselves. We don’t know what knowledge they are based on.”

According to reports in Germany, Mr Wolters suspects the Portuguese police, startled by renewed global attention, may have had new information.

In our case the evidence is complete, the suspect is in custody.”

 

[Betty_Boop88]

I have literally have no idea how much - I can't keep googling these things otherwise I'll soon be flagged up by GCHQ!

Never worry, Ted, m’dear! I always forget Big Brother’s constantly watching

No exact figure for a snuff video - and unfortunately child snuff would probably cost more... But these articles may give you an idea. Really don’t want to quote anything from this though and upset folk, so I’ll link the articles and whoever is interested can click.

Inside the dark web: ‘The truth is there is a lot of evil out there’

What is a Red Room? Do darkweb ‘live stream’ murder sites really exist? | Metro News

 

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What on earth is going on? So was any of the well search aspect based on German LE intelligence or purely Portugal LE acting on their own?

Madeleine McCann police failed to tell prosecutors about plan to search wells

Portuguese police sent divers to explore three wells last week in the search for Maddie, although they failed to tell German prosecutors about the dives amid calls for a joint investigation

German prosecutors were not told about fresh searches for Madeleine McCann – and say they do not even know what prompted them.

Mr Wolters, overseeing the investigation into paedophile Brueckner, said of Thursday’s search: “I read about it, but the measures were not taken in consultation with us.

The Portuguese police are investigating themselves. We don’t know what knowledge they are based on.”

According to reports in Germany, Mr Wolters suspects the Portuguese police, startled by renewed global attention, may have had new information.

In our case the evidence is complete, the suspect is in custody.”

WOW!

 

[Betty_Boop88]

But the revelation "you can carry drugs and kids" was from Nicole's dad Dieter. He said if he knew back then what CB was up to he would have broken his bones.
I checked the old guy on FB if it is him. The profile is very strange with lots of teenage girls from all over the world on his friends list. Maybe this was not the real guy, who knows. And he has a Nicole on his friends list and her surname is different. In fact two profiles of this person.

His daughter could have been involved only without his knowledge. Otherwise, he would not have said that.

It’s the right profile, Haden. Look up “Fehlinger” on his friends list, then look where that girl lived in 2000...

 

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Never worry, Ted, m’dear! I always forget Big Brother’s constantly watching

No exact figure for a snuff video - and unfortunately child snuff would probably cost more... But these articles may give you an idea. Really don’t want to quote anything from this though and upset folk, so I’ll link the articles and whoever is interested can click.

Inside the dark web: ‘The truth is there is a lot of evil out there’

What is a Red Room? Do darkweb ‘live stream’ murder sites really exist? | Metro News

But I did find out from a Professor if you place bricks around a body then wrap it in chicken wire, it won't come to the surface of water when it starts to bloat.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

What on earth is going on? So was any of the well search aspect based on German LE intelligence or purely Portugal LE acting on their own?

Madeleine McCann police failed to tell prosecutors about plan to search wells

Portuguese police sent divers to explore three wells last week in the search for Maddie, although they failed to tell German prosecutors about the dives amid calls for a joint investigation

German prosecutors were not told about fresh searches for Madeleine McCann – and say they do not even know what prompted them.

Mr Wolters, overseeing the investigation into paedophile Brueckner, said of Thursday’s search: “I read about it, but the measures were not taken in consultation with us.

The Portuguese police are investigating themselves. We don’t know what knowledge they are based on.”

According to reports in Germany, Mr Wolters suspects the Portuguese police, startled by renewed global attention, may have had new information.

In our case the evidence is complete, the suspect is in custody.”

Aw ffs. I give up

ETA - “in our case the evidence is complete...” Huh???

 

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But the revelation "you can carry drugs and kids" was from Nicole's dad Dieter. He said if he knew back then what CB was up to he would have broken his bones.
I checked the old guy on FB if it is him. The profile is very strange with lots of teenage girls from all over the world on his friends list. Maybe this was not the real guy, who knows. And he has a Nicole on his friends list and her surname is different. In fact two profiles of this person.

His daughter could have been involved only without his knowledge. Otherwise, he would not have said that.

I couldn't recall to whom he told that (thanks for reminding), but something struck me when I read it for the first time. That must have been told within a context that made sense to listener at the time. No one says "you can carry drugs" and "you can carry children" in a single thought unless listener knows what one is talking about. He said now, world watching him, he would break his bones, but didn't say something a normal listener would say "I didn't know what he was talking about".

 

[Betty_Boop88]

But I did find out from a Professor if you place bricks around a body then wrap it in chicken wire, it won't come to the surface of water when it starts to bloat.

Duly noted! Thanks for the tip
Now just to figure out how 5’0”, 8 stone me carries a body encased in bricks and chicken wire to a water source...

On a more serious note, I wonder if CB was privy to that information...

 

[Dlk79]

But I did find out from a Professor if you place bricks around a body then wrap it in chicken wire, it won't come to the surface of water when it starts to bloat.

Or something similar like a bag or tied up blanket filled with stones. Corpes will float after about 7 days due to gasses released in decomposition. Once they hit the surface it would stink too so chances are if MM was dumped in a well, her remains may be wrapped in something. Was going to suggest LE might know that she was put in something and that's what they are searching for but based on the latest Mirror article now, who knows...

 

[SuperdadV8]

IMO we should be relaxed!

In the last 4 weeks, most of the british tabloids put out info.

In germany, the case has not that attention in the media at first!

Investigation is far away from being finished!