Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #14

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  • #961
You appear to know the in's and out's of such operations to the finest detail. That is very disturbing in itself.
Certain aspects of the Dark web and the money that changes hands for various things were dicussed and researched in the earlier threads, hence the knowledge here. Hope you weren't trying to imply something else.
 
  • #962
To gain a better understanding, this article is V good for starters :)

"No matter how much the pedophile has, he never has enough; and he rarely throws anything away"

We must not forget that CB likely had an pathological "obsession" - This is why SO many images etc have been found and I'm sure there is lots more.

https://ccoso.org/sites/default/files/import/Lanning---molestor-behavior-analysis.pdf
Thanks tedtink. Have to admit, only had the stomach to skim through it however it's a very detailed analysis.
 
  • #963
Why would he keep children's clothing in his motorhome with his past convictions?
Madeleine suspect ‘kept children’s swimwear in mobile home’
Why would he keep children's clothing - if he has, in an allotment and not burn them on a fire on the plot?
Why leave possible incriminating items lying around in his past properties?
If he wanted to keep trophies, he was taking a chance. JMO
I'm no expert sleuther by any stretch but I can't get any pattern here at all.

Whilst having a few kids swimming costumes hanging around, maybe cause for suspicion, they are not incriminating in any way on their own.
 
  • #964
Whilst having a few kids swimming costumes hanging around, maybe cause for suspicion, they are not incriminating in any way on their own.
I think I was trying to apply logic to a situation that probably defies it :)
 
  • #965
He got away with things for so long he probably got complacent. He seems to enjoy bragging about his crimes and reliving them through his trophies and recordings. Even with the CP files found on his USB drive, he threw the USB stick out but didn’t delete the files or completely dispose of it even though he was in some of the videos himself. He has some attachment to his trophies and recordings it seems. He can’t seem to bring himself to destroy it
Yes, I think the actions over the USB sticks were quite telling in that regard. If he was concerned about them being found, he could easily have destroyed them. Instead, he buried them, meaning he'd rather take the risk they still might be found than letting go of them forever. Similarly, he showed a friend in the bar in 2017 a video of him raping someone on his phone. Meaning he either had it stored on his phone or stored somewhere on the web. These are traits of someone who sees the videos as trophies. There's every chance he kept other trophies too.
 
  • #966
Just read that not releasing info about what they found during their search is likely tactical so that others in the know don’t go destroying further evidence.
 
  • #967
Assumption again, i know!

But togehter with the pic of the policeman touching his face and IMO sad looking eyes, that one pic of the woman still keeps me wondering.

No police-uniform. Looks pregnant due to her belly so she couldn't be there for the hardest work. Maybe she is a forensic. The blue tent and the clothing assumes, that this is a group of forensics. Maybe she just wipes out something else from her eye ok, but did you check the three men in front of her. They are also looking kind of devastated and the man in the middle is directly looking at her, although he has a mobile in his hand. And the man in the middle has kind of a compessionate look IMO.

And all this in correlation to reported barking sniffer dogs, that might be cadaver dogs and german L.E refusing to comment, maybe until things that have been found were checked carefully...
I think you are right
 
  • #968
So a German bought the VW van for 5000€ and then let deteriorate parked as scrap?
Sounds fraudulent in some way.

BP and his family used it as a family vehicle.
 
  • #969
A lot of work, instead of setting it on fire to get rid of evidence like DNA, don't you think?
Maybe not, if he intended to sell it eventually.
 
  • #970
Yes, I think the actions over the USB sticks were quite telling in that regard. If he was concerned about them being found, he could easily have destroyed them. Instead, he buried them, meaning he'd rather take the risk they still might be found than letting go of them forever. Similarly, he showed a friend in the bar in 2017 a video of him raping someone on his phone. Meaning he either had it stored on his phone or stored somewhere on the web. These are traits of someone who sees the videos as trophies. There's every chance he kept other trophies too.

There’s also the possibility that he didn’t want to destroy the USBs because of high potential sale value too.
 
  • #971
Thanks, Jake :)

Translation for non-Chromers:

Just a few days ago, the suspect's lawyer had announced in the Maddie case that he would not apply for early release. Now the U-turn. Christian B. wants to get out of prison early.


Hanover / Kiel

The suspect in the case of the disappeared British Madeleine McCann has again made an application for early release . The Regional Court of Kiel is now responsible for this and no longer the Regional Court of Braunschweig as in the previous application that was withdrawn two days ago, the 43-year-old lawyer, Friedrich Fülscher , told dpa on Thursday. The suspect is currently serving a prison sentence for drug trafficking in Kiel . The liability is scheduled for January 7, 2021 - two thirds of this sentence was served on June 7 of this year.


The 43-year-old had previously said through his lawyer that he had lost confidence in the Braunschweig judiciary after he believed the local court had wrongly sentenced him to rape a 72-year-old American. However, after the Federal Court of Justice had declared the Braunschweig district court responsible for the release from prison , the suspect had withdrawn his application. As the lawyer explained, the regional court at the headquarters of the detention center in which the man is sitting is now responsible for the new application, that is Kiel.


He faces further punishment

In case of early release from prison, the suspect could despite the ongoing investigation against him in the case Maddie are released. Basically, he still has to serve his sentence in the event of rape. According to the Braunschweig judges, the man raped the 72-year-old in 2005 in Praia da Luz, Portugal , about a year and a half before Maddie's disappearance . However, the 43-year-old had appealed against the judgment pronounced in December 2019.
So.... was he expecting evidence to be found that wasn’t discovered ?!
 
  • #972
Whilst having a few kids swimming costumes hanging around, maybe cause for suspicion, they are not incriminating in any way on their own.
Yes, the swimsuits may not be connected to any crime at all. Maybe he had a fetish for girls swimsuits and just collected them, or maybe they were left behind by someone else.
 
  • #973
I don’t think CB has the capacity to express or have sympathy. He most likely meant to boast or he said it in an arrogant way.

Maybe because of all the media attention it made things harder for him and MM because more of an “inconvenience” as he got more than he bargained for and now he can’t get away from hearing about her? He may mean it’s a good thing for him maybe. Especially if he’s completely disposed of the body in a way she won’t be found? Such as the mention of disposing her body by feeding her to pigs.

He’s so vile!
If he’s guilty I just wonder whether given it’s suspected he committed previous similar crimes previously was he taken off guard with the intense worldwide attention of MM, hence his decision to go off grid? Seems white middle class British privilege does not always yield positive results despite good intentions, said as a white middle class person, no discrimination intended, just observation. The immediate intense media scrutiny this case attracted is unprecedented, it must certainly have been unexpected if CB did indeed have previous victims
 
  • #974
You appear to know the in's and out's of such operations to the finest detail. That is very disturbing in itself.

Welcome to the thread.
It's a little disconcerting when we read a comment like this about a fellow member.
We are dealing with very disturbing content on this thread and one does not have to be disturbed oneself, in order to understand the content.
Of course, if we are jesting, we usually follow our comment with a :) as not to cause confusion. :)
 
  • #975
Police has also searched down town in Hannover:
Meanwhile, a neighbour at his former apartment block four miles away in the city of Hanover said police had been searching public gardens there.
The mother, who has lived there 15 years, said: “Last week there was a police helicopter overhead plus two tents on the street.
Police were very busy in the gardens opposite. They seemed to be looking for something. They wouldn’t say what they were doing but it makes sense now knowing that he lived here.
There’s soooo much we don’t know. I’m impressed. German LE are doing a great job. In UK every step would be known !
 
  • #976
Yes, I remember the gf saying he removed the roof so he could fill it with water (rainwater?) to use as a bath. Very odd.
Was it the the ex-gf who actually said that though? I remember it was mentioned in a Mirror article about the british ex-gf but they didn't seem to attribute that particular comment to her, it was just inserted into the article with no context. Haven't seen the story repeated anywhere else.

True untold story of Madeleine McCann suspect who seemed like 'perfect gent'

I find this story a bit hard to believe and is possibly based on chinese whispers or made up by someone. Firstly, there are far cheaper and easier ways to manufacture/buy something to make a bathtub. Secondly, the car wouldn't hold the water, they aren't watertight. Thirdly, even if it was all sealed up, it would take forever for it to fill up with enough rainwater to make a bath (and why not just use mains water?). And last, by the time it did fill up, who the hell would want to sit in a disgusting pool of stagnant water?
 
  • #977
Yes, the swimsuits may not be connected to any crime at all. Maybe he had a fetish for girls swimsuits and just collected them, or maybe they were left behind by someone else.

I think CB collected them for sexual gratification as part of his obsession with children.
He was confident enough to leave them in the camper as they could have easily have been explained away as being innocent, if discovered.
By marrying the swimsuits up with the rest of the finds LE have got a very different picture indeed.
 
  • #978
Not sure, if that is really true. Makes not a lot of sense to me. First appeal Braunschweig Court. They said Kiel is in charge. Kiel said Braunschweig is in charge. Highest Court made descision, that Braunschweig is.

After that, he withrawed the appeal from the responsible court. Now a new appeal to the not responsible court?

Either fake, or some legal lawyer games. I don't know.
So glad you joined us Super, you’re insight is a much needed bonus!
 
  • #979
Was it the the ex-gf who actually said that though? I remember it was mentioned in a Mirror article about the british ex-gf but they didn't seem to attribute that particular comment to her, it was just inserted into the article with no context. Haven't seen the story repeated anywhere else.

True untold story of Madeleine McCann suspect who seemed like 'perfect gent'

I find this story a bit hard to believe and is possibly based on chinese whispers or made up by someone. Firstly, there are far cheaper and easier ways to manufacture/buy something to make a bathtub. Secondly, the car wouldn't hold the water, they aren't watertight. Thirdly, even if it was all sealed up, it would take forever for it to fill up with enough rainwater to make a bath (and why not just use mains water?). And last, by the time it did fill up, who the hell would want to sit in a disgusting pool of stagnant water?

IMO we care too much about possibleGF's, due to his assumed profile. He seems to have younger to elderly ladies at the same time. He beat them up, if they discovered his urges.

IMO, he acted alone, according to the gruesome stuff. I don't think his "longer" relationships were aware of his urges. Hard to imagine...
 
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