Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #2

[otto]

Yeah, 3 years ago, 10 years after she went missing, the case was featured on "Aktenzeichen XY" and that's when they got the tip or tips.

It sounds like the same news source has now released the information publicly even though the investigation started 3 years ago. It sounds like police have completed the big picture and are now looking to fill in the details - thus the public announcement with questions.

It sounds like they have located both the van and the Jaguar, or is it just the Jaguar? They are looking for the person that the suspect spoke to for 30 minutes shortly before the abduction at 8:03PM. What else is unanswered - not about windows and doors, but where he might have put her body?

 

[mrjitty]

It sounds like the same news source has now released the information publicly even though the investigation started 3 years ago. It sounds like police have completed the big picture and are now looking to fill in the details - thus the public announcement with questions.

It sounds like they have located both the van and the Jaguar, or is it just the Jaguar? They are looking for the person that the suspect spoke to for 30 minutes shortly before the abduction at 8:03PM. What else is unanswered - not about windows and doors, but where he might have put her body?

They have recovered both vehicles, which apparently rendered no forensics, or at least none they care to share with us

3 years is a long time to work on this, which is why some of us suspect this is perhaps more of a hail mary

I am not so familiar with german prosecutions compared to common law (despite living in germany a long time) but to me it is perhaps unusual to accuse the guy of the murder in the media, without charging him with it.

 

[HayLouise]

So what enquiries did the police made to trace the user of +351 916 510 683 ? Within hours of its release it was easy to establish a connection to Portuguese Diogo Silva, but in addition to him the number is also linked to _____ -a girlfriend of #ChristianBrueckner perhaps?

https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1269153794572550144?s=21

(Redacted name)

 

[HayLouise]

Coronavirus and Madeleine McCann suspect dominate Saturday's newspaper front pages

 

[HayLouise]

Madeleine McCann suspect linked to boy, 6, who disappeared from beach in 1996

 

[mrjitty]

So what enquiries did the police made to trace the user of +351 916 510 683 ? Within hours of its release it was easy to establish a connection to Portuguese Diogo Silva, but in addition to him the number is also linked to _____ -a girlfriend of #ChristianBrueckner perhaps?

https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1269153794572550144?s=21

(Redacted name)

Why on earth is MWT publishing names of people on the internet with no firm evidence they are connected to the case? That seems wildly irresponsible.

 

[Giuc0]

the german police have not said any such thing.
what the german police have said has been established three times already on this thread.

I believe that if their investigations is a murder case and, per this post, German press and police statements (translated) *no discussions* kindly translated by @Schlumpfchen from German police statement, where it is translated "The Departement of public prosecution Braunschweig is investigating a 43 year old German citizen in suspicion of murder. You can conclude that we do think that the girl is dead.", it means that we can safely be confident that they search for Maddie's remains.

I don't believe that German police would say something like that without solid evidence.
They are much more professional!

 

[HayLouise]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ristian-br-ckner-filmed-sex-attacks-rzt7ck2mg

 

[otto]

They have recovered both vehicles, which apparently rendered no forensics, or at least none they care to share with us

3 years is a long time to work on this, which is why some of us suspect this is perhaps more of a hail mary

I am not so familiar with german prosecutions compared to common law (despite living in germany a long time) but to me it is perhaps unusual to accuse the guy of the murder in the media, without charging him with it.

My impression is that several victims are being investigated in connection to this suspect, and Madeleine is one of them. There's also the German boy (link).

He is convicted for the 72 year tourist rape 1 km from her apartment. More questions are coming up. Madeleine is supported by his phone call that ended near the McCann apartment at 8:03PM. It was a 30 minute call. Didn't police publish the number to locate that person?

 

[HayLouise]

Why on earth is MWT publishing names of people on the internet with no firm evidence they are connected to the case? That seems wildly irresponsible.

Being an ‘ex cop’ you’d think he would know better

 

[Edinlass]

At the end of the day this suspect has probably been suspected for the whole time he has been in prison so the police probably thought they had time on their hands to gather evidence. The time is now passing and they now need assistance from the public and fast. I believe they have their man but too many missed opportunities at the beginning by the Portuguese police may just ruin any chances of evidence, I hope not.

Not that I would ever leave my children in an unlocked apartment whilst I even dined as close as my back garden be that home or abroad the last place on earth I would wish the authorities help in a missing person enquiry is Portugal/Spain. Any more laid back they would fall of their chairs.

 

[Giuc0]

My impression is that several victims are being investigated in connection to this suspect, and Madeleine is one of them. There's also the German boy (link).

He is convicted for the 72 year tourist rape 1 km from her apartment. More questions are coming up. Madeleine is supported by his phone call that ended near the McCann apartment at 8:03PM. It was a 30 minute call. Didn't police publish the number to locate that person?

They did, and it's in the first thread. Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect

 

[Giuc0]

General warning as it will be a recurrent issue in this case.

Per Wikipedia, people are rarely given one family name in Portughese-speaking countries. Portuguese name - Wikipedia

Same as in Spanish-speaking countries per my experience.

So, unless person's first name is rare, we need to know all subject's last names before doing anything.
Or other more specific data.
Diogo is not a rare first name in Portughese-speaking countries.

Otherwise, we can easily get the wrong person, especially true when last name is as common as "Rossi" in Italy, "Smith" in UK or "Durand" in France.

 

[Edinlass]

It's not even my country (yes, I said I am German but never lived there and was born in Austria and I never felt German and I don't like a lot of things about Germany - not the people, but politics, etc., I have no reason to stick up for "my" country) and it's not about the country as such, or only in part about that, it's about people still trying to blame the parents and that they are behind this now when it's coming from German LE and has nothing to do with the parents. I don't like it at all if people spread false information on here, either out of ignorance or because they have an agenda.

People will always blame the parents unfortunately, even if they were to find Maddie dead people will still find a way to blame it on them. That’s not false information that is merely people’s opinion which you are in no control of! Fortunately WS has rules and therefore anyone expressing this ‘opinion’ will be dealt with.

 

[Giuc0]

People will always blame the parents unfortunately, even if they were to find Maddie dead people will still find a way to blame it on them. That’s not false information that is merely people’s opinion which you are in no control of!

They are opinions filled with false information.

IMO, that's the very issue. And per TOS, Maddie's parents are considered as victims.

 

[Edinlass]

They are opinions filled with false information.

IMO, that's the very issue. And per TOS, Maddie's parents are considered as victims.

False information fed by the media for years to the public..

And with all due respect we are discussing a suspect filled with lots of information that may come out as ‘false’. Extremely difficult to differentiate at the time, hindsight we call it...

 

[Giuc0]

False information fed by the media for years to the public..

And we are responsible not to spread them any more.

 

[Miya]

People will always blame the parents unfortunately, even if they were to find Maddie dead people will still find a way to blame it on them. That’s not false information that is merely people’s opinion which you are in no control of! Fortunately WS has rules and therefore anyone expressing this ‘opinion’ will be dealt with.

Well, it's not an "opinion" if LE is investigating this and started this to blame the "McCann public relations team". That's ignorance and someone who doesn't know how LE works or how German LE works or the person has an agenda. I am allowed to state my opinion as well though, it is mostly to inform people that what certain people post here is wrong and false information.

 

[Satchie]

It looks like 1.8 km (1.2 M) from the suspects house to the McCann's apartment.

I think it's possible he carried her part of the way to his house, and made her walk part of it. I think it's more likely that he used the Jaguar to dispose of the body.

Do we know where he kept the Jaguar between Madeleine's disappearance and towing it behind the van to Germany? Maybe he disposed of the body closer to the place where it was parked (per changed ownership that day).

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Madeleine McCann: Villa where Christian Brueckner raped tourist | Daily Mail Online

Apartment (above linked maps)

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Suspect's house

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He had moved out of that house before the disappearance ,(perhaps because he was sent to jail,)

"At the time Madeleine disappeared the suspect was, police believe, living in a white VW Westfalia camper van with yellow skirting"
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-5293762

 

[Edinlass]

And we are responsible not to spread them any more.

Yes it is a fact though that £12.5 million of UK taxpayers money has been spent on this case to date. And this is the only fact the person upthread was talking about. Hoping that this wasn’t another way to inject more of our money to the fund. That is not false information, that is hoping their isn’t an agenda. Now, of course as this is the German police investigating we know this not to be the case but there was no harm in asking that, IMO.