Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #21

[SuperdadV8]

Its hard to be sure one way or the other but it could just be the aperture used has blurred out whatever is farther away from the lens. Its an easy photoshop job or an easy in camera thing to do. I can't rule photoshop / alteration in or out!

EDITED TO EXPLAIN:
- things closest the end of the lens will always appear bigger than other things in the photo. This is why your hand looks bigger than it might otherwise if you take a photo of your arm and extend your arms toward the lens like superman.
- If you follow the link, you can learn a bit about camera settings that affect how the end photo will turn out. You have to remember, adjusting one setting will affect all the other settings: Exposure | ExposureGuide.com
- Also, if a photo was taken in low light, or darkess, you'd need flash or some source of light (streetlight?) to illuminate the subject or you risk it blurring. Alternatively, you can shoot at night using a tripod, or a super steady hand and a fast lens aperture. Otherwise, its gonna blur.

In short: what you're seeing in the wheel of the photo could be due to camera settings, flash, available light or lack thereof or straight up photo manipulation. I'm wagering its probably just the camera settings / angle and light.

Thank you very very much! Even if a straighter opinion would be much more comfortable to me.

 

[redplanet]

I don’t recall she’d been accused at that point prior to the dogs arrival ?
Re your last paragraph please will you direct me to where I can find that .

I am not sure about your 1st point @Zuleika I need to check. On your 2nd point the visual cross-referencing involves
(1) PJ crimescene photos of apartment both bedrooms,
(2) PJ/MG video of
(a) apartment both bedrooms,
(b) villa lounge + "common room" areas,
(c) the clothing examination location.
(IMO all E alerts causally traceable back to intruder action).
Probably all findable at mccannpjfiles website.

 

[redplanet]

Re your assuming what the dog’s could do ,in her book ,page 120 , KM says ( recalling her being told cadaver dogs were being brought over) “ did they really believe a dog could smell the odour of death three months later from a body that had been removed so swiftly ?”
I find this statement ....no .... those last nine words very strange .

The recommendation to bring the UK dogs over and to deploy them in the apartment, was dated 23/7/2007.

 

[Zuleika]

The recommendation to bring the UK dogs over and to deploy them in the apartment, was dated 23/7/2007.

Sorry redplanet ,your post here means .....?
I also still don’t understand what you mean in your penultimate post by
(c) the clothing examination location.
(IMO all E alerts causally traceable back to intruder action )

 

[Quietey]

This is how I see it

@photographer4 could I ask for your opinion on what really looks like a child behind the driver seat of the VW, as spotted by Shark - trick of the light or something more? It really does look very real once you've seen it (not sure whether the pics from this post will be in the quote - if not they are in the second message from the top on P37)

 

[snowpea666]

Is the closet big enough to have fit her little body? And how long did she have to be in the closet then later behind the couch, for cadaverin to have set? I have always taken the dogs alerts with a pile of salt, many things that could have set this "alerts".

This is interesting Can you trust a cadaver dog if there's no cadaver?

 

[redplanet]

Sorry redplanet ,your post here means .....?
I also still don’t understand what you mean in your penultimate post by
(c) the clothing examination location.
(IMO all E alerts causally traceable back to intruder action )

Sorry I try to be clearer. E= Eddie. After E inspected the villa on Rua Das Flores, the clothing etc items were then taken from the villa to a building in Portimao and inspected individually by E. IMO these alerts by E can be traced back causally to an intruder in 5A.

 

[Zuleika]

Sorry I try to be clearer. E= Eddie. After E inspected the villa on Rua Das Flores, the clothing etc items were then taken from the villa to a building in Portimao and inspected individually by E. IMO these alerts by E can be traced back causally to an intruder in 5A.

Thankyou for your patience . I understand E is Eddie . It’s the can be traced back causally to an intruder that I don’t .An intruder carrying cadaverine odour ?

 

[Okapi]

This is interesting Can you trust a cadaver dog if there's no cadaver?

That's fascinating Snowpea, that the scent may not last beyond a month if the body is removed.

Meanwhile, cadever dogs are helping archaeologists discover Stone Age remains!

When Cadaver Dogs Pick Up a Scent, Archaeologists Find Where to Dig

 

[redplanet]

Thankyou for your patience . I understand E is Eddie . It’s the can be traced back causally to an intruder that I don’t .An intruder carrying cadaverine odour ?

Scent was alerted by E on several diverse clothing items, the simplest explanation is that each of those items had been in direct contact with the scent source, and probably simultaneously IMO.

 

[Zuleika]

Scent was alerted by E on several diverse clothing items, the simplest explanation is that each of those items had been in direct contact with the scent source, and probably simultaneously IMO.

I’ m understanding all of this but the dog handler said that the alerts were useless without forensic evidence didn’t he ?

 

[redplanet]

I’ m understanding all of this but the dog handler said that the alerts were useless without forensic evidence didn’t he ?

The alerts by E when combined with the crimescene photography by PJ, are valuable indications which greatly aid solving what happened IMO.

 

[photographer4]

@photographer4 could I ask for your opinion on what really looks like a child behind the driver seat of the VW, as spotted by Shark - trick of the light or something more? It really does look very real once you've seen it (not sure whether the pics from this post will be in the quote - if not they are in the second message from the top on P37)

I went back and had a look - I'm sorry, I do not see a child or anything else in the views provided. I see a window, and I see a pattern on the window which might be easily explained away by reflection. I'll give you a task. Take out your phone and take photos of car windows at various times of day, in various light / cloudy / foggy conditions. Notice how the light affects the reflections? Its likely that is what is going on here. Bonus points if you find a car that is wet, or had its window's washed recently, or is sitting in the shade on a sunny day. Eventually you'll notice as you zoom in, similar reflections in the window might appear to be more than they really are. How do I know? This was an assignment we had to complete once upon a time when I was learning to be a photographer! Light really messes with what you see. It also affects reflections. Zooming in further messes with things.

You might even be surprised to find that you're drawn to notice things that look like faces in weird places now: pareidolia. YOu'll start to notice it when you look at things like say... the electrical outlet on your wall for three prong appliances. Or... well, everywhere! LOL.

 

[photographer4]

.........now watch LE come out and charge someone for this abduction / murder and make me look like a jackass by showing that I'm dead wrong in all my photography opinions!

 

[Victoria Chambers]

But did you read this in YM's statement?
"the couple replied that he was a close friend of the family"
Surely it is obvious that YM was not talking about RM.

DP does not have a scar on his left cheek. Nor on his right cheek. RM is the only person with an obvious scar on his face that would help with fitting that description. YM didnt ask K&G "who is he?", she assumed he must be a friend. IMO, YM shouldn't be taken at her word. Quote pj:. "At this moment, the witness wishes to clarify that in England, anybody working with children, whether a doctor, police officer or social worker, they must have proper credentials certified by police and this is the document which she shows to K&G" -. Who in turn take it to the 3rd person (DP) who verifies it as being authentic.. K&G are both Doctors too and would immediately recognise the document!. YM has lived in Portugal for 7 years at this point, whilst still returning to work as a Social Worker in England!?.. As an English social worker, she would know that our authorities have a child protection system in place and they work and share info with each other when it comes to children and YM would not have to write her colleagues anonymously in order to find out if DP has ever been reported for incidents involving kids - she can access the files herself. Certainly her boss would not deny her that information, given the plight of MM, who btw, was not YMs case and if her turning up at 5a unannounced was acceptable then half the social workers in England would have flown out to Portugal asking questions! X

 

[Quietey]

Thanks for that dose of reality @photographer4 - sometimes just what is needed! Pareidolia combined with looking for answers is a particularly powerful combination.

 

[Trivento]

Madeleine McCann: Public 'would reach same conclusion' on suspect

 

[mrjitty]

Madeleine McCann: Public 'would reach same conclusion' on suspect

OK - I am calling BS at this stage

Mr Wolters said: "If you knew the evidence we had you would come to the same conclusion as I do but I can't give you details because we don't want the accused to know what we have on him - these are tactical considerations."

Trust us the accused is guilty but we need to conceal the evidence from the accused himself???

To me this is outrageous. You claim in public a man is guilty of murder, but also refuse to confront him with the evidence

This allows the state to pronounce people guilty of serious crimes, whilst refusing to prosecute or make any case.

Christian B lived in Portugal on and off for years and investigators now believe he may have committed at least three other sex crimes here - two of them against children, Mr Wolters said.

And now let's smear him with some more crimes.

I am fine with the language of suspects, assisting with inquiries etc. But either charge people or not.

Saying he "may" have committed some sex offences??? Like either you have evidence he did, or you don't.

 

[Okapi]

I must admit, Mr Jitty, it suggests inferential evidence, not concrete. Which is making me think, what does LE need to pin it on him?

Regarding the other suspected crimes, are they building a prosecution for all these cases simultaneously? Are they preparing for each case to add weight to the others? Are they all morphing into the same investigation?

 

[Dlk79]

OK - I am calling BS at this stage

Trust us the accused is guilty but we need to conceal the evidence from the accused himself???

To me this is outrageous. You claim in public a man is guilty of murder, but also refuse to confront him with the evidence

This allows the state to pronounce people guilty of serious crimes, whilst refusing to prosecute or make any case.

And now let's smear him with some more crimes.

I am fine with the language of suspects, assisting with inquiries etc. But either charge people or not.

Saying he "may" have committed some sex offences??? Like either you have evidence he did, or you don't.

Why are you calling BS? BS on what exactly, that they have the evidence or in reference to how they are going about this case?

It's more strong words from the prosecutor indeed.

Mr Wolters said: "If you knew the evidence we had you would come to the same conclusion as I do but I can't give you details because we don't want the accused to know what we have on him - these are tactical considerations."

"I can't promise, I can't guarantee that we have enough to bring a charge but I'm very confident because what we have so far doesn't allow any other conclusion at all."

IMO, he wouldn't say these things if he didn't mean it. Nor would he pronounce guilt unless the evidence was so strong. It seems to me they just need that last piece of the puzzle, maybe all they need is a photo or something that places CB in PDL to bring the charge. Who knows.