Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #22

[Lilly b]

I feel a little sick writing this but here goes. MM was a little girl. You would not need to intend to kill her or even get pleasure from killing her if your intent was just abuse. The abuse could kill her. Serial killers want to kill for killings sake, abusers it could just be an unfortunate consequence of what they do want to do. Or a way of getting rid of evidence. The thrill is not in killing.

From BILd, so much stuff on German sites, and so many unsavoury characters about, could CB be connected to this or any of the other groups, and it's only in recent years that it's come out the German connection, and is this why he was travelling around Europe

ARREST IN ASCHERSLEBENWhy are the pedophiles free again?
published onMay 6, 2014 - 12:46 pm
Aschersleben - Five minutes after the woman and the ten men had left the zoo in Aschersleben (Saxony-Anhalt), the police attacked. Investigators arrested eleven alleged members (23 to 60 years old) of a pedophile ring at their "annual meeting". They come from Aschersleben, Berlin, Dresden, Leipzig, Dortmund and Switzerland. But: everyone is now at large again.
The initial suspicion of sexual abuse and the possession and distribution of child was sufficient for the raid - but not (yet) for an arrest warrant.

Because: Although some of the suspects admitted their pedophile tendencies, they did not admit criminal acts.

 

[tedtink]

Do we know for sure that it was on that date/trip?

I know we've gone over this before but...........
Could you or someone else do a close up of Malaga number plate and compare to the 'graffitti' van number plate please. (I can't copy the press reader pic)
I think we can safely say that 'graffitti van' has 02/07 in the yellow section. The unpainted 'seems' to be the same plate 02/07, but need more opinions.
Is it the same plate/ the same vehicle as the 'unpainted' westfalia?

 

[Dlk79]

I know we've gone over this before but...........
Could you or someone else do a close up of Malaga number plate and compare to the 'graffitti' van number plate please. (I can't copy the press reader pic)
I think we can safely say that 'graffitti van' has 02/07 in the yellow section. The unpainted 'seems' to be the same plate 02/07, but need more opinions.
Is it the same plate/ the same vehicle as the 'unpainted' westfalia?

Looks like 82/07 on the graffiti plate to me?

 

[tedtink]

Looks like 82/07 on the graffiti plate to me?

Can't seem get an eye test in lock down
Would 82/07 be the year of manufacture?

What about the Malaga pic?

 

[tedtink]

Can't seem get an eye test in lock down
Would 82/07 be the year of manufacture?

What about the Malaga pic?

In this pressreader link below from C.greek

I think they were 34-91-XE as pictured here in April 2007 (I think) during the roadtrip with the two random people to Spain

PressReader.com - Your favorite newspapers and magazines.

 

[Dlk79]

Can't seem get an eye test in lock down
Would 82/07 be the year of manufacture?

What about the Malaga pic?

Bit blurry but looks like it could also say 82/07 to me when side by side.

 

[C.greek]

Bit blurry but looks like it could also say 82/07 to me when side by side.

I think both say 82/07. Which would mean it was first registered in July of 1982?

 

[SuperdadV8]

I think both say 82/07. Which would mean it was first registered in July of 1982?

That would be interesting, because on that T3 Westfalia-afficionado website it's claimed, that the T3 westfalia has been introduced with the model year of 1983.

So the question could be, when this model year has been officially introduced an sold?

If after july 1982, he could have swapped a number of license plates on different vehicles!?

VW T3 WESTFALIA Club Joker `83-`85

According to this page, earlier models with special roof had been available, but have been named as "Joker"?!

Westfalia-Typenschild – T3-Pedia

 

[Anxala]

Definitely 82/07 on both. The 8 is quite clear imo from Dlk's links.

 

[Chiatos]

Is it possible that the VW Westfalia van plates ended in 84DL ?

May I ask where you got the 84DL from?

 

[tedtink]

Bit blurry but looks like it could also say 82/07 to me when side by side.

OK so going right back to our original discussion, it must have been painted after CB had it and it was perhaps in the 'graffiti'd' state when it was seized by LE hence GA 'coincidentally' having those pics ?
JMO

 

[Anxala]

Just for a reminder, I recall HCW saying his investigation wasn't looking for anyone else in direct connection to MM's disappearance/murder?

I know he asked for people to come forward who might know/provide something significant (eg. that tel call) but my impression was/is that he believed CB acted alone.

Is that a correct recollection?

 

[Trivento]

Just for a reminder, I recall HCW saying his investigation wasn't looking for anyone else in direct connection to MM's disappearance/murder?

I know he asked for people to come forward who might know/provide something significant (eg. that tel call) but my impression was/is that he believed CB acted alone.

Is that a correct recollection?

That's how I remember it also...
Although like many people have said IMO it wouldn't be surprising if there is at least one more person involved to a degree.

 

[Dlk79]

Just for a reminder, I recall HCW saying his investigation wasn't looking for anyone else in direct connection to MM's disappearance/murder?

I know he asked for people to come forward who might know/provide something significant (eg. that tel call) but my impression was/is that he believed CB acted alone.

Is that a correct recollection?

Yes, he said it in the sexta9 interview when he was asked about NF being a possible accomplice. He said:

“She is not a suspect for us. We are only investigating Christian B, nobody else.

“At this stage we believe he acted alone in this case.”
'Everything points to Maddie being dead' says prosecutor investigating suspect

However... he was then asked a similar question on the Australian podcast interview and gives a confusing response given what he'd already said previously. He is asked by the interviewer "Do you believe the suspect acted alone?". HCW answers "I cannot comment on this at the moment."

Seems strange when he has 'seemingly' already answered that previously, unless his meaning in the sexta9 interview was actually something slightly different to what he's been asked here.
'Madeleine is Dead' - They've Taken Her - Omny.fm

 

[tedtink]

Yes, he said it in the sexta9 interview when he was asked about NF being a possible accomplice. He said:

“She is not a suspect for us. We are only investigating Christian B, nobody else.

“At this stage we believe he acted alone in this case.”
'Everything points to Maddie being dead' says prosecutor investigating suspect

However... he was then asked a similar question on the Australian podcast interview and gives a confusing response given what he'd already said previously. He is asked by the interviewer "Do you believe the suspect acted alone?". HCW answers "I cannot comment on this at the moment."

Seems strange when he has 'seemingly' already answered that previously, unless his meaning in the sexta9 interview was actually something slightly different to what he's been asked here.
'Madeleine is Dead' - They've Taken Her - Omny.fm

Perhaps HCW means he believes CB acted alone in murdering MM but could have had intel regarding 5a in order to rob the apartment. If that was his original intention.

 

[snowpea666]

In a study published last year, the forensic pathologist Lars Oesterhelweg, then at the University of Bern in Switzerland, and colleagues tested the ability of three Hamburg State Police cadaver dogs to pick out – of a line-up of six new carpet squares – the one that had been exposed for no more than 10 minutes to a recently deceased person.

Several squares had been placed beneath a clothed corpse within three hours of death, when some organs and many cells of the human body are still functioning. Over the next month, the dogs did hundreds of trials in which they signalled the contaminated square with 98 per cent accuracy, falling to 94 per cent when the square had been in contact with the corpse for only two minutes.
The CSI death dogs: Sniffing out the truth behind the crime-scene

Each dog participating in this project was able to find most or all of the locations where the decomposing scent articles had been. We saw dogs, which varied, from full alert and pinpointing to general interest in the room or area.

What we have found so far is; residual scent will last 1 year in a building with minimum environmental influence, or human disturbance. Even after the objects where the scent source had been were removed, the dogs were able to locate the rooms, general area, or pinpoint where it had been.
residual scent

Yes I read this also, however the decomposing corps was on carpet, so the dead cells and such were embedded in the wool/fabric of the carpet, now if you do the same on sealed tiles and how many times was the floor washed with cleaning products ? And yes it can last a year minimum environmental influence, or human disturbance but that apartment would have had plenty of both. just thinking x

 

[C.greek]

Yes, he said it in the sexta9 interview when he was asked about NF being a possible accomplice. He said:

“She is not a suspect for us. We are only investigating Christian B, nobody else.

“At this stage we believe he acted alone in this case.”
'Everything points to Maddie being dead' says prosecutor investigating suspect

However... he was then asked a similar question on the Australian podcast interview and gives a confusing response given what he'd already said previously. He is asked by the interviewer "Do you believe the suspect acted alone?". HCW answers "I cannot comment on this at the moment."

Seems strange when he has 'seemingly' already answered that previously, unless his meaning in the sexta9 interview was actually something slightly different to what he's been asked here.
'Madeleine is Dead' - They've Taken Her - Omny.fm

IMO everytime HCW replies with "I cannot comment on this at the moment" He actually means yes.

 

[C.greek]

That would be interesting, because on that T3 Westfalia-afficionado website it's claimed, that the T3 westfalia has been introduced with the model year of 1983.

So the question could be, when this model year has been officially introduced an sold?

If after july 1982, he could have swapped a number of license plates on different vehicles!?

VW T3 WESTFALIA Club Joker `83-`85

According to this page, earlier models with special roof had been available, but have been named as "Joker"?!

Westfalia-Typenschild – T3-Pedia

Can you indeed legally get old number plates from another vehicle?! Otherwise, it could have been another of his small crimes

 

[snowpea666]

REVEALED: 'THIS is who snatched Madeleine McCann and THIS is how to find them'

Yeh this is my thinking also and always has been

 

[peanutJelly]

I've previously suggested that it was most likely a 'prop' to gain sympathy for whatever reason. He was in a Catholic country, so it would make sense that he was trying to 'fit in' with the locals in a manipulative kind of way.
JMO

No phone, a bible and a lawyer’s card. He went to the passport office knowing he would be arrested. IMO
What was worse than this for him? What/who was he wanting to avoid?