Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #23

[tedtink]

Sorry to go slightly off topic for a second , did the German Police solve the DM rape by getting the hair sample from PJ and running it against their own national database ?

This is the most comprehensive account regarding the process which I found a while ago.

"This statement prompted the police to search for possible rape victims in the unresolved old cases. She came across an American woman who reported she was assaulted and raped at her home in September 2005."

"a DNA analysis by the Federal Criminal Police Office confirmed that a body hair that was found on the victim's bed unequivocally came from him."

Maddie McCann - darum führt die Spur nach Braunschweig - Braunschweiger Zeitung

 

[Trivento]

Madeleine McCann: Nanny's new sketch echoes picture of kidnapper
So having established this probably not CB ( as he was in jail ) , perhaps more should be found out about whoever this character was in this 2006 incident ( reminds me a little bit of Cooperman ) .
Perhaps this guy was in CB’s contact circle...may even reveal something connected to the mystery caller to CB’s phone on 3rd May 2007 ?
If anyone connected to the official investigation reads this ...perhaps check phone data connected to whatever date this was ?

 

[JB1510]

This is the most comprehensive account regarding the process which I found a while ago.

"This statement prompted the police to search for possible rape victims in the unresolved old cases. She came across an American woman who reported she was assaulted and raped at her home in September 2005."

"a DNA analysis by the Federal Criminal Police Office confirmed that a body hair that was found on the victim's bed unequivocally came from him."

Maddie McCann - darum führt die Spur nach Braunschweig - Braunschweiger Zeitung

Thanks very much so the Germans solved the case and
presumably convicted CB hence why is staying in Germany.

Is there any mention of them getting the sample directly from the Portugese ?

 

[Anxala]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11827...-kidnapping-kids-sell-sex-slaves-paedophiles/

'Could be, may have, it's possible, fears are' accompanied by a typically Sun-drenched dose of 'OMG No child anywhere is safe from ANYTHING!!' sensationalism is really not objective evidence of anything.

 

[tedtink]

Thanks very much so the Germans solved the case and
presumably convicted CB hence why is staying in Germany.

Is there any mention of them getting the sample directly from the Portugese ?

Is there any mention of them getting the sample directly from the Portugese ?

It's not clear if they tested the sample (hair) or matched his DNA after Portuguese had tested the sample (as would normally have taken place after being discovered at the scene).

 

[Anxala]

Madeleine McCann: Nanny's new sketch echoes picture of kidnapper
So having established this probably not CB ( as he was in jail ) , perhaps more should be found out about whoever this character was in this 2006 incident ( reminds me a little bit of Cooperman ) .
Perhaps this guy was in CB’s contact circle...may even reveal something connected to the mystery caller to CB’s phone on 3rd May 2007 ?
If anyone connected to the official investigation reads this ...perhaps check phone data connected to whatever date this was ?

Or perhaps he was just some random grifter/burglar on an opportunistic night out? With no connection whatsoever to CB?

 

[Trivento]

Or perhaps he was just some random grifter/burglar on an opportunistic night out? With no connection whatsoever to CB?

That’s also possible ...but who knows ..? Do you ? Are cases solved easily if everything is just dismissed as being irrelevant..?

 

[Anxala]

That’s also possible ...but who knows ..? Are cases solved easily if everything is just dismissed as being irrelevant..?

I agree. My comments, just to be clear, are directed at the info in the link, not you.

I'm not dismissing it, more just objectively questioning why an occurrence at 5A in Oct 2006 may have relevance to an alleged occurrence at 5A 8 months later. It's a stretch and a very tabloid one, imo.

Not to mention the fact that it's based on the very (very) dubious e-fit provided by the very (very) unreliable Jane Tanner.

 

[Trivento]

I agree. My comments, just to be clear, are directed at the info in the link, not you.

I'm not dismissing it, more just objectively questioning why an occurrence at 5A in Oct 2006 may have relevance to an alleged occurrence at 5A 8 months later. It's a stretch and a very tabloid one, imo.

Not to mention the fact that it's based on the very (very) dubious e-fit provided by the very (very) unreliable Jane Tanner.

Sure ..no probs..could be nothing ..could be something..if anything it highlights I think the vulnerability of that particular apartment.
Re. the “ scruffy haired-face only “ efit ...as far as I can find it’s not based on anything JT said , it seems to be produced by the Mirror based on what MH told the Mirror ( MH was not asked to produce an efit by the PJ ) ...MH is quoted as having said to the Mirror
“He had long hair but it was quite scruffy and straggly looking”
I believe MH later said she thought the other “ full body “ efit connected to the JT report about a man carrying a child , looked like the man she (MH ) thought she had seen , but it seems MH was perhaps mistaken in that particular respect , based on later news about Ju.To.

 

[Trivento]

Not to mention the fact that it's based on the very (very) dubious e-fit provided by the very (very) unreliable Jane Tanner.

Did the JT full body efit ( produced by FBI connected artist ML in presence of JT ) not turn out to be almost identical to the photo of Ju.To. that was shown on Crimewatch etc ?

 

[Scorpiette]

This is from The Sun...but here goes ....
Child murderer to be questioned for second time over Madeleine McCann case

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

I want to comment on this :

When MM became a Ward of the

Courts, a very unique document was drawn up. The most notable unique point, it determines MM

as being the victim of a non-familial abduction (all similar documents are for children taken

by family members) The document covers Interpol and other European Countries due to the

significant foreign elements surrounding the case. I'm sure those countries must have been

sent a copy of the papers. It requires the high court be notified of all informations

received with regards to MM whereabouts or situation. The judge decides what info may or may

not be released based on what risks, if any, it poses to MM should she still be alive. It was

drawn up to safeguard a living child and due to there being no proof of death, all points must

still apply. The document also orders the immediate return to the UK of MM if found alive or

otherwise! How sad X

As MM is a Ward of the Courts I would be very careful when addressing the media if I were on HCW shoes. HCW did state on a recent publication (end of the last year) that this doesn't have anything to do with the Mccanns and they are not in contact with them, etc.
IF the Mccanns do get fed up with this they might use the fact that MM is a Ward of the Court to request all information that HCW does have on the case. If they chose to do that and if HCW can't "produce" his "secret" evidences he might very well ended up sued by the Mccanns for moral damage (saying MM is dead without solid evidences) and for messing their own investigation (saying that MM is dead could pose a problem for investigators/people looking for a living MM).
I guess the "ball" is not on HCW side but on the Mccanns side instead. It's just up to them to judge if the German investigation is worth following up or not. If they have confidence on it they will let it go and see if CB can be charged. If they start to be annoyed with this and if this starts to be a "dispute" between HCW and some other police forces that might bring a better result to MM investigation then the Mccanns might request for the secret info that HCW does have.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

(...)
I would even assume that IF CB may have boasted around trafficking minors around his "inner circle" or "criminal scene", it would likely be more a smokescreen, to disguise his real interest in children, if he may have been seen with one. Just not to attract attention as a peado. Just imagine someone, maybe another criminal, asking about children's swimsuits in his vehicles? What answer would a "hidden paedo" and criminal make? Would he admit to be into that stuff, or would he say, i make money by trafficking kids to become a rich guy! Maybe to be admired?
Many paedos or molesters show such a behavior in close relation to their "normal life" or profession. Teachers, clergymen, neighbours, relatives. They act like impostors, just not to be recognized.
But it's just a thought....

This makes no sense at all. If CB did want to "hide" his interest in children he would say to his "friends" that he didn't like children at all. He wouldn't say "No, I don't abuse children myself, I just sell them to other people to abuse them" ! It's like, "No, I don't traffic drug I just plant it / produce it".

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

Maddie suspect won’t be charged over £1k

cell rampage and still wants compensation
'Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told The Sun: ''It has been decided to discontinue the

investigation, with the agreement of the court in Braunschweig, as the accused is now serving

seven years for rape.
"It would not be worth carrying on with the investigation but the counter claims from his

lawyer that his client was attacked are still being looked into and no decision has yet been

taken.''

For me they simply want to "look better" to the public. HCW "strategy" is directed to the public and public opinion as it should be quite obvious by now. If they don't charge CB for the damages he did cause he will gain points on the eye of the public. Also enforcing that the investigation against them over the CB claims that he did got injured by LEA shows to the public a honest side of the BKA/LEA. Last thing that BKA does want is for people to start to think that they are forcing some sort of confession out of CB or are already sure that he is responsible for MM murderer even without sharing the secret evidences...
IF HCW does loose the interest of the public then it's strategy is over.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

(...) I personally think CB is part of a bigger picture and very well
could be high on the chain of an organised darknet group.

Yet he didn't even bother to "encrypt" his hidden child abuse content neither the communications as all of that was easily intercepted...

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

This is from The Sun...but here goes ....
Child murderer to be questioned for second time over Madeleine McCann case

MN = Boy "lover".
MM = LG (Little Girl).
What are the chances ?
Victim profile wouldn't match. MM is not even "boy look alike"...

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

This is from The Sun...but here goes ....
Child murderer to be questioned for second time over Madeleine McCann case

SY wants to re-question Ney, BKA wants to charge CB, this is starting to look like a "run" for solving the case with several police forces all over the world trying to "crack" the case maybe for their own glory... PJ have their own ideas as well but none of the LEA are in agreement regarding what happen to MM. Sad. They should join forces instead of competing...

 

[redplanet]

My "personal" "sleuthing" on CB is now completed.

CB is no longer a person of interest to me.
...(snip)...

Even though you have no interest whatsoever in the topic of this thread, might you perhaps be available to help with Portuguese to English translation of Portuguese TV reports?

 

[snowpea666]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11827...-kidnapping-kids-sell-sex-slaves-paedophiles/

So roughly about 500 children in the EU taken for trafficking each year, so so sad
According to Missing Children Europe, 250,000 children vanish every year in the EU alone. That's a staggering one child disappearing every two minutes.

Of this criminal abductions make up just 0.4% of that number - equating to 1,000 children a year.

But what happens to some of those 1,000 children is truly horrific - some of whom are snatched and sold on to the highest bidder for often sinister purposes.

 

[peanutJelly]

I agree. My comments, just to be clear, are directed at the info in the link, not you.

I'm not dismissing it, more just objectively questioning why an occurrence at 5A in Oct 2006 may have relevance to an alleged occurrence at 5A 8 months later. It's a stretch and a very tabloid one, imo.

Not to mention the fact that it's based on the very (very) dubious e-fit provided by the very (very) unreliable Jane Tanner.

Having watched how they tried to trace back in PDL what happened, and JTs obvious distress at being pressured by GM, why do you say JT is unreliable? Whatever may be thought of her sighting, I feel convinced that to her she was true to what she observed