Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #24

[Pixie Child]

Hi everyone! Just catching up on the Boys town connection.

CMK’s FB page for anyone who hasn’t seen it. Nothing of interest.
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[Anxala]

If he's correct and MM's body is buried exactly where he says then the BKA should arrest and question the clairvoyant! - What a load of drivel from the DM yet again.

I had to laugh at this:

His clairvoyance technique includes looking at photographs of a missing person and asking God 'whether this living being is alive or dead', before turning to atlases and Google Maps until they 'stop on a spot'.

 

[Tekno]

Michael Winger, a Canadian clairvoyant had a similar ‘vision’.

SEARCH HAND-SHAPED RESERVOIR FOR MADDIE; Clairvoyant Norwegian cop says he knows where missing girl is buried. - Free Online Library

 

[mrjitty]

imo..the press have a lot to answer for.... promoting trash like this.

Which is why I keep saying, we can't base any sleuthing off the UK tabloids - they produce absolute garbage, and in this case, recycled garbage.

 

[Nikolai_ff]

This is the little beach at Luz. No access for vans.
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Anybody who’s been to Luz will immediately dismiss the idea that she was taken to the beach, for example. I think people fail to understand the physical layout of the resort.

 

[Nikolai_ff]

Madeleine McCann is 'buried in a forest six miles from where she went missing' claims clairvoyant | Daily Mail Online

She’s very probably correct.

 

[Nikolai_ff]

Michael Schneider, who has successfully located the remains of several missing people, has given police the exact coordinates of where he thinks her body is in Portugal.
“I do not give out such information lightly and without constantly questioning myself because I am very well aware of the responsibility of what I do.”
Using this technique last month he helped police locate a missing woman, who was found hanging from a tree, within 36 hours.

Schneider was also able to pinpoint exactly where murdered couple Peter Neumair, 63, and Laura Perselli, 68, would be found after they vanished from their home in Bolzano, Italy, in January.
Police to probe clairvoyant’s claim Madeleine McCann is buried in forest

Clairvoyance is bs obviously but you can certainly get a type of “sixth sense” based on logic and common sense. During the Beltway Sniper affair, I was able to correctly predict the car he would be driving down to the make and colour.

 

[mrjitty]

I mean Mark Harrison's review already stated this thesis back in summer 07

The body was likely dumped somewhere close to PdL. This is why in virtually every missing persons case, the local area is combed for the dumping ground.

 

[Lindsay Lou Who]

Madeleine McCann disappearance 'could be solved within months' German prosecutor claims | Daily Mail Online

This mornings DM piece! Take from it what you will!

 

[Lilly b]

Which is why I keep saying, we can't base any sleuthing off the UK tabloids - they produce absolute garbage, and in this case, recycled garbage.

That may be true, but some of the things that have come out in the last year have been very informative, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Deleted member 268165]

I would like to know what the Germans consider forensic and non-forensic evidence.
Here the BKA page:
https://www.bka.de/EN/OurTasks/Remi...ncy/ForensicScience/forensicScience_node.html
It seems eyewitness testimony is not consider forensic evidence.

 

[infinit]

I would like to know what the Germans consider forensic and non-forensic evidence.
Here the BKA page:
https://www.bka.de/EN/OurTasks/Remi...ncy/ForensicScience/forensicScience_node.html
It seems eyewitness testimony is not consider forensic evidence.

I am not German but it is the same here in the UK.

The word "Forensic" by definition is "relating to or denoting the application of scientific methods and techniques to the investigation of crime" which witness testiomy wouldn't be.

 

[mrjitty]

I would like to know what the Germans consider forensic and non-forensic evidence.
Here the BKA page:
https://www.bka.de/EN/OurTasks/Remi...ncy/ForensicScience/forensicScience_node.html
It seems eyewitness testimony is not consider forensic evidence.

Witness testimony is direct evidence - i.e a witness observes something, and if believed it proves that fact.

Forensic evidence is a form of circumstantial evidence. It helps us infer a fact. As BKA state, circumstantial evidence if often more powerful than witness evidence.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

We have to wait. When the investigation will finish HCW will present the results. The Germans think that it will take some more months till they will come to an end.

 

[Nikolai_ff]

Whether or not CB gets convicted in the court of law. I believe we will know the truth by the end of the year. To people kvetching about operation Grange costing millions - every difficult case solved helps us solve more cases. Next time a little girl or boy goes missing, we will be much better prepared.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Whether or not CB gets convicted in the court of law. I believe we will know the truth by the end of the year. To people kvetching about operation Grange costing millions - every difficult case solved helps us solve more cases. Next time a little girl or boy goes missing, we will be much better prepared.

Hopefully!

 

[Anxala]

imo..the press have a lot to answer for.... promoting trash like this.
If something is clearly of genuine divine origin then fair enough...however for me at least I don't believe psychics and clairvoyants fall into that category.... or have any validity in themselves.

Me neither. I think these people must be a real pain in the arse for crime investigating forces, particularly those 'psychics' that manage to get media attention like this Schneider character. It puts unnecessary pressure on the investigating force as they have to be seen to be treating all responses seriously. And there's always that extra burden where one of these 'psychics' could strike lucky with their claims and correctly identify the eventual whereabouts of a buried body that, the 'psychic' concerned, would be so quick to tell the media how their 'clairvoyance' had been ignored by the force concerned.

Whether or not CB gets convicted in the court of law. I believe we will know the truth by the end of the year. To people kvetching about operation Grange costing millions - every difficult case solved helps us solve more cases. Next time a little girl or boy goes missing, we will be much better prepared.

OG solved nothing and raised, over the years, far more questions than answers.

I appreciate your optimism and concern for lost children but maybe find a better example than MM of millions spent on an investigation that got a result, rather than one - the OG MM one - that went so peculiarly and confusingly nowhere useful. To this very day.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Me neither. I think these people must be a real pain in the arse for crime investigating forces, particularly those 'psychics' that manage to get media attention like this Schneider character. It puts unnecessary pressure on the investigating force as they have to be seen to be treating all responses seriously. And there's always that extra burden where one of these 'psychics' could strike lucky with their claims and correctly identify the eventual whereabouts of a buried body that, the 'psychic' concerned, would be so quick to tell the media how their 'clairvoyance' had been ignored by the force concerned.



OG solved nothing and raised, over the years, far more questions than answers.

I appreciate your optimism and concern for lost children but maybe find a better example than MM of millions spent on an investigation that got a result, rather than one - the OG MM one - that went so peculiarly and confusingly nowhere useful. To this very day.

That's my opinion as well!

 

[Sagwa]

I think HWC said everything he had to say... CB will never come out of jail... but the fact that HWC said CB did it alone, I'm afraid we'll never know who helped him or tipped him off...HWC is concentrating on charging CB with mord/murder... that is the only fact he has... all details don't matter anymore...so sad...what do you think?

 

[Nikolai_ff]

Me neither. I think these people must be a real pain in the arse for crime investigating forces, particularly those 'psychics' that manage to get media attention like this Schneider character. It puts unnecessary pressure on the investigating force as they have to be seen to be treating all responses seriously. And there's always that extra burden where one of these 'psychics' could strike lucky with their claims and correctly identify the eventual whereabouts of a buried body that, the 'psychic' concerned, would be so quick to tell the media how their 'clairvoyance' had been ignored by the force concerned.



OG solved nothing and raised, over the years, far more questions than answers.

I appreciate your optimism and concern for lost children but maybe find a better example than MM of millions spent on an investigation that got a result, rather than one - the OG MM one - that went so peculiarly and confusingly nowhere useful. To this very day.

How do you know in advance that an investigation will fail? It’s like military manoeuvres - great training.