Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #25

[Chiatos]

So:
- Nov 2020; CB gets hurt (broken rib(s)) when transported from Kiel to a courtroom at Braunschweig, actually near Braunschwig: Wolfenbüttel
- May 2021; CB writes his letter of complaint with address Oldenburg*
- Aug 2021; according to media, CB is in solitary confinement at the prison of Oldenburg

* was he already in Oldenburg at the time, or was he protesting against a future transfer to Oldenburg?

 

[JB1510]

Inside Madeleine McCann suspect's sinister cellar 'dungeon' dug under his home

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Police searched a sinister cellar dug under a ramshackle house by Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner, The Mirror can reveal.

Officers swooped on the convicted paedophile’s former home in Central Germany after the current tenant raised the alarm.

Last year it was reported a friend claimed Brueckner had said he wanted to create a dungeon – with soundproof walls – “like the guy in Austria” – a chilling reference to monster Josef Fritzl.
Inside Madeleine McCann suspect's sinister cellar 'dungeon' dug under his home

 

[SuperdadV8]

Should be the allotment in Braunschweig with probable similarities to the Hannover allotment.

Not to suspicious in any way....

It fits so many patterns, some others do not like to fathom. Looks to me like behaviors of a "Weekend Dutroux". I hope, no possible witnesses will have too many accidents!

Of course, i make a stand for the "innocent until proven guilty" rule. It's more important than ever. But CB fits almost every clue, how some horrible things work over decades. Sorry!

But i'm sure, some people will say, that it was used for keeping vegetables fresh. As HCW isn't interested in this allotment in the MM case, i hope the prosecutors from Stendal took a thoroughly
look into that cellar!

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

(...)As HCW isn't interested in this allotment in the MM case, i hope the prosecutors from Stendal took a thoroughly
look into that cellar!

Don't worry.

From your article :

Last year it was reported a friend claimed Brueckner had said he wanted to create a dungeon – with soundproof walls – “like the guy in Austria” – a chilling reference to monster Josef Fritzl. There is no evidence he ever followed through with that idea.

And for you to know Sabine Selig didn't call the police because of MM, she did call the police because she was afraid that the body of little Inga could be hidden there but by that time Sta Stendal did already know very well EXACTLY where CB was on 02/05/2015.

Also :

But the large scale, two-day operation involving diggers and sniffer dogs, came up with nothing.

Do you think CB would abuse/kill a little girl on those "basements" and police wouldn't find anything there later ? When BKA "raid" those places they were looking for stuff like hidden pen drives or trophys like belongings of MM as by that time 1) It wouldn't make sense for CB to take MM to those basements on Germany for hiding the body/abuse when he could do that in PT and 2) they were already 100% sure he didn't had anything to do with little Inga case.

Oh and by the way (as you care so much for her) it was her 12th birthday last wednesday (day 18).

Try not to believe in all of the stuff they are publishing on the media as well. They simply want to sell their old stories as there are no news that are relevant now about CB/MM.

 

[Loobyloo]

Think you may mean MN is in France

Yes, I did - sorry.

 

[mrjitty]

Actual news!

But wait - this "ramshackle home" with "sinister cellar" turns out to be a fairly standard allotment hut.

Many of them are in bad condition - it became a cool thing to do here in Hamburg for young families (who live in apartments) to take over the allotments from old people going out.

You can make them nice - but they are not proper homes. Many are in a bad way after decades in the weather (wooden construction, no insulation etc - they don't last forever.

So yeah - i see why this was checked out, but as usual the tabloids try to pretend this has some deep meaning, when it's just an allotment he had for a shortish time and didn't look after very well

 

[Sharkbite]

A previous post where this search was discussed.

According to this 2016 Bild article the apartment and Braunshweig garden plot were searched in connection with the Neuwegersleben box factory search.

"Since the man also has an adjoining apartment in Braunschweig, the premises and a garden plot there were also searched. Only after evaluating the computer data does the public prosecutor want to determine how to proceed against the accused."

Großeinsatz in der Börde:Kinderporno-Razzia auf vermülltem Fabrikgelände

I assume that the article refers to the allotment Am Fullerkamp as this where CB is reported to have been living at the time.

Also worth noting from this article is that mobile phones and computers were also found, this fact seems mostly forgotten in recent articles regarding the box factory search.

 

[Sharkbite]

Are they reporting about the same tenant, old article says she is 30, new article says 36, from what I can work out it is the same 'new tenant'

From this latest Mirror article

"Then when she found out he was the prime suspect in the Maddie case, she contacted police immediately who descended on her place and began digging it up in a frantic search for evidence."

From the Mirror article June 2020

The current owner added: “The police have said nothing since I phoned and have not been to visit.
I’m disappointed.
Then....
“They came here in person in 2016 at 8am and asked me if I know him.
"I said no and they said goodbye.
"After 2016 no one from the police has come.”
Madeleine McCann suspect buried 'German Maddie' at my allotment, new owner fears

Something doesn't add up, then again it is the Daily Mirror

 

[SuperdadV8]

According to this article from the irish mirror, the allotment in Braunschweig has been searched again in 2021.

Maddie McCann investigators search 'secret dungeon' found in suspect's home

 

[mrjitty]

Something doesn't add up, then again it is the Daily Mirror

Exactly - yet more BS that has been previously reported. But now they obviously got access because they have photos.

A classic example of misleading reporting is this is not a "ramshackle house". These places are just weekend gardens. Most of them you are not supposed to overnight in (though everyone does).

Wouldn't surprise me if he actually lived there - because its cheap.

But the idea it is "sinister" is nonsense. It's a bog standard allotment hut.

 

[Sharkbite]

According to this article from the irish mirror, the allotment in Braunschweig has been searched again in 2021.

Maddie McCann investigators search 'secret dungeon' found in suspect's home

So she thought that Inga might have been in the basement back in 2016, called the police who visited, but no search. Then as soon as she found out CB was a suspect in the MM case which I presume must have been shortly after it was announced she called the police again, and they "swooped" and began a "frantic" search for evidence earlier this year - at least 6 months after she called them.

It makes sense that this location has been searched, but why so late in the investigation and why is information about this years search only coming out now? I would have thought the media would have been all over it at the time of the search.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

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[Denis R Tandib]

But the idea it is "sinister" is nonsense. It's a bog standard allotment hut.

True ... unless it was rented by a rapist and child molester who dug a dungeon under it to allegedly keep prisoners like the dungeon Josef Fritzl built. In this scenario the description, IMO, is fair.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

So she thought that Inga might have been in the basement back in 2016, called the police who visited, but no search. Then as soon as she found out CB was a suspect in the MM case which I presume must have been shortly after it was announced she called the police again, and they "swooped" and began a "frantic" search for evidence earlier this year - at least 6 months after she called them.

It makes sense that this location has been searched, but why so late in the investigation and why is information about this years search only coming out now? I would have thought the media would have been all over it at the time of the search.

I wonder why she thought Inga might have been there. I feel it’s unlikely she would have known about his prior child abuse convictions so why did she suspect him?

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

True ... unless it was rented by a rapist and child molester who dug a dungeon under it to allegedly keep prisoners like the dungeon Josef Fritzl built. In this scenario the description, IMO, is fair.

If that were to be the case :

1) There would be "evidences" or "traces" of children keept there and/or items used to hold/abuse the children.

2) If CB were to be a sadistic pedo torturer/killer he would hold the victims on that perfect place he did had, if nothing was found it's not likely that CB would be a serial killer that would taarget multiple children for abuse on random places instead of holding them on the "dungeon" he already had, as he had the "perfect places" he would do it. If there are no traces it's not likely for him to commit the killings and hide the body/do the abuse on a kidnapped children somewhere else. So it's all media speculation and things are written to "impress" - same as that "bull****" hurstcore documentary posted here a while ago...

3) As the article stated it was never determined that CB did build a dungeon like Josef Fritzl. Even if he told that on internet comunications it doesn't necessary have to be true. Example he could had told that to another pedo on the internet to attempt to gain access to content or trade "stories", etc ...

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

I wonder why she thought Inga might have been there. I feel it’s unlikely she would have known about his prior child abuse convictions so why did she suspect him?

First search back in 2016 on CB property IT'S NOT related to our little Inga (some newspapers didn't tell the truth). CB was targeted because of other charges including drugs and there were interest in searching the place he lived. From there they found child abuse images as we all know and the phone cards and the child bathing swimsuits, etc .... Initialy the search was not little Inga related but when they checked CB because he was living some km from the place little Inga went missing the CB data ended up on the INGA FILES. The rest is media speculation and the "will" of Inga family to have the "case" for her little one to be re-opened.

The woman only asked the police to search fearing that our little Inga could be burried there RECENTLY when she checked the news and saw that CB was suspect of killing MM. Then she was thinking as majority of people here woithout knowing better that if CB was a serial child killer he could had killed little Inga as well so was in panick. Goes without saying that Sta Stendal and BKA didn't had interest at all is searching CB places in relation with INGA as they did already know FOR SURE he was not responsable/related BUT now that they are targeting him over MM they tought that CB could had hide stuff like pen drives/media/cloths OF MM on his "hidden places" so the will to search now while they didn't bother that much back on 2016.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

Media like newspapers and TV do mix up stuff badly in hope to "link" stuff to make CB (or any other suspect for that matter) to appear a better candidate for the crime and make the story more reliable.

If CB were a child serial killer like MN for example there would be way more missing children around the place he visit. Also he did have his places to hide children/bodis and do the abuse so he would had done that and it would had been traces like on any other case. If police searched very properly and sometimes more than once and nothing was found we can forget for sure about that "serial killer stuff".

So what we can still focus/think is that he was stealing houses in PDL, found MM and abuse/killed her or targeted her directly, etc as an isolated case on PDL on that time but even for that police/BKA will have to provide more data/info.

Simply doesn't make sense.

If CB was a guy who loved/liked to torture little girls and if he did had the chance to do so as he had places where he could do that abuse there would be no need/motivation to molest children in public and have girlfriends and even invite those to his house. He would just kidnapp girls, hide and abuse them and use them to satisfy himself, no need to get girlfriends and even less to abuse child of girlfriends.... Story doesn't add up and doesn't match the behaviour of all other know psychos that did imprision children ....

 

[Anxala]

From the earlier link, I'm assuming this is the scary, sinister cellar in question, yes?

It really is very scary and sinister.

 

[Chiatos]

From the earlier link, I'm assuming this is the scary, sinister cellar in question, yes?

It really is very scary and sinister.

It does not seem to be a cellar because of those windows. The cellar should be underground and should not have any windows at all.

It's weird that the article isn't showing any images of the interior of the cellar.
The images only show the cellar's entrance in/on the floor.