Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #25

[vermisstekindersuche]

Morally impossible? What a statement from obviously somebody related to germany and it's laws! It's a BKA investigation right?! They investigate on wider scales.

They do not need parents to identify victims and that's a fact! Especially not in child cases.

Super recogniser - Wikipedia

What does the "Super recogniser" link have to do with parents ID victims ?

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

One of my ongoing problems with all of this is HCWs evidence is all so secret not even the Met police or Parents can know about it.

But CB is in jail!

What can possibly be so secret when the child is dead?

Exactly ... Is not that CB will be changing facts. If they do have images/videos of dead MM what could CB do from jail ? Erase the evidences that they do already have ? Doesn't look like he can do much. And if he did kill MM he does know what evidences they have so ...

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

One of my ongoing problems with all of this is HCWs evidence is all so secret not even the Met police or Parents can know about it.

But CB is in jail!

What can possibly be so secret when the child is dead?

Also if it were to be so secret why would they tell the child is dead to start with ?

 

[mrjitty]

Also if it were to be so secret why would they tell the child is dead to start with ?

Exactly - isn't that enough clues for anyone connected to CB to destroy the evidence?

 

[SuperdadV8]

Yet HCW doesn't have any problem to go to every tv station and newspapers to promote his version that CB did kill MM....

Also what link would CB have with the MM parents ?

So ... if i'm writting nonsense i'm very sorry .... you see i did never work on investigations before and i don't know anything about that so ....

But you keep writing about what's usual in criminal investigations. Do you see the contradiction?

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

The prosecutors have to do nothing else than to solve a case. Especially they do not have to share anything they have, just not to jeopardise any investigation. Period!

So, just for clarifictaion, if a police or someone working for LEA there at Germany goes somewhere and find a dead body they can "hide it" and not tell anyone from the family that the person is dead because they are working on an investigation that involves the killer ?

So for example a guy that is dealing with drugs kills someone of the network and dispose of the body on somewhere hidden, if BKA finds the body they will not ID the body neither contact the family of the dead guy to investigate the drug network in secrecy ?

 

[SuperdadV8]

It't getting hot in here, so take of all your......

I like it!

Hey VMK and MJ, for how long do you know each other?

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

But you keep writing about what's usual in criminal investigations. Do you see the contradiction?

I was being sarcastic with you

 

[SuperdadV8]

i was being sarcastic with you

Maybe i'm not in the funny mood like you are in, if it's about abducted children?

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

Maybe i'm not in the funny mood like you are in, if it's about abducted children?

Ok, sorry, you are correct. I'm very sorry.

 

[SuperdadV8]

But the ones who are wishing fo horrible pictures/videos of MM to exist are you guys, not me ...

The most emphatic answer i read in years! Please keep on exposing yourself Buddy!

 

[SuperdadV8]

The most emphatic answer i read in years! Please keep on exposing yourself Buddy!

Why did you delete your answer and re-wrote it???

 

[tedtink]

Also if it were to be so secret why would they tell the child is dead to start with ?

HCW/BKA believes MM to be dead. They haven't said, verbatim, that she is.

Operation Grange Statement: June 19, 2020
The Met received one letter from the BKA on 12 June, which was passed to the family. The letter did not state that there was evidence or proof that Madeleine is dead, the MPS continues to investigate Madeleine’s disappearance as a missing person investigation. No letter has been received by the Met from the German prosecutor.

Updates: | findmadeleine.com

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

Why did you delete your answer and re-wrote it???

Because I don't want to argue any further. I don't have the need to.

If what you are saying is correct then HCW/BKA might very well have found MM body by now (for example on CB allotments) but because they don't have enough to charge and are still investigating they will not tell (because they don't have the need to tell) so they will keep that for themselfs for as much time as they want. Do you think it's reasonable ? If they decide not to charge CB and if they did figure out/retrieved the body it's ok to keep it in "secret" from the parents if required "forever" ? Exactly the same would apply to photos/videos of dead MM. End result would be the same.

Again what I think doesn't matter and doesn't change anything, because whatever HCW have or doesn't have isn't going to change with what i write here. Meaning your commants about if i'm x or y are not going to change the course of events on MM case. Even if i were CB or a lawyer or the HCW or any other from BKA or StA writting here my idea about this particular case wouldn't change what is already running at investigation level.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

HCW/BKA believes MM to be dead. They haven't said, verbatim, that she is.

Operation Grange Statement: June 19, 2020
The Met received one letter from the BKA on 12 June, which was passed to the family. The letter did not state that there was evidence or proof that Madeleine is dead, the MPS continues to investigate Madeleine’s disappearance as a missing person investigation. No letter has been received by the Met from the German prosecutor.

Updates: | findmadeleine.com

Exactly !!! The point is why to create all of this "mess" and make the investigation look like so un-professional and with lack of parents cooperation ?

They know that CB isn't related to the MM family so ... If CB is the one they are targeting why not to call the family first and expose all that they have and work together using the media network that the Mccann did already had instead of going one against the other with that "letter" confusion ?

Wouldn't it b better for the Mccanns to post on their site a request for people that know CB and were aware that he was on PDL to pass on info to the BKA because there was seriouse suspicion that he could had taken MM ? Wouldn't it look more plausible and well organized investigation when all goes intro one direction instead of one claiming that MM is dead while the others claim she is not and no-one can provide any thing because all is secret ?

Sorry but this looks a terrible mess to me.

 

[tedtink]

I don't think they need them for ID

I just think it is politically and morally impossible, that if they had such images, they would keep it secret from the parents who wait still more years to know what happened.

IF there are images and they are being kept secret from the parents, then there maybe another reason for that IMO.

If there are images and the MC's have seen a photo of MM's face, for instance, I'm sure they would not jeopardize the investigation by speaking out, considering CB is the 'latest' suspect.

If there's no images at all - It makes me think what on earth HCW does have, that makes him so sure that he has the right perp.

Everyone.........is keeping schtum.
And the tumbleweed keeps rolling by.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

The most emphatic answer i read in years! Please keep on exposing yourself Buddy!

What would I have to gain if i were someone from the case to be writting here ? Would it change something regarding CB/HCW investigation ? Some of you readers could change view about the case by reading and thinking about what i write and so what ? At the end of the day what CB did and what HCW have on him would be the same and he would be charged or not despite of what i did write here.

And NO. I'm NOT anyone FROM THE MM CASE and I'm not related to any of the suspects as well. I'm not CB/lawyer/etc... Simple IP check will show that i'm not writting from jail (unlike you think) ...

 

[SuperdadV8]

What would I have to gain if i were someone from the case to be writting here ? Would it change something regarding CB/HCW investigation ? Some of you readers could change view about the case by reading and thinking about what i write and so what ? At the end of the day what CB did and what HCW have on him would be the same and he would be charged or not despite of what i did write here.

And NO. I'm NOT anyone FROM THE MM CASE and I'm not related to any of the suspects as well. I'm not CB/lawyer/etc... Simple IP check will show that i'm not writting from jail (unlike you think) ...

Thanks for your first (in my opinion!) honest answer so far! Believe me, if you might have something to say, you will have an audience in here!

But it keeps odd to read some contradictional post on.....and on....and on.....?!

I hope you understand me!

 

[Lilly b]

And the problem is the time that did went by ... It would be "reasonable" if HCW/BKA had collected info with the public appeal and had charged or at least questioned CB on the following weeks.

I don't think to be reasonable after more than a year for the sittuation to be on the same stage, for JC to be claiming that if they are going to charge it will be on the next year and for those claims that there are incoming good leads everyday.

Tips from the public / information don't fall from the sky.

If they didn't got what they needed when the placed the public appeal it's not now that they will get those pieces of information so they are just buying time, in my opinion ...

But of course i don't understand a thing about this so i'm just speculating...

Pity CB wasn't spoken to in 2007 when they called looking for him, let's not forget he was a person of interest, at that very time,
Off subject to a degree I know

 

[ChatteringBirds]

It doesn't make sense to me authorities anywhere would need a victim's parents to identify the victim from an image.

The parents could say it's not her, because they really don't want it to be her. They don't want to believe it.

OR they could say they think it is her, because they are so desperate for an answer and for closure.

So what would asking the parents even provide investigators?
IMO only.