Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #25

[SuperdadV8]

As i said before, just one single picture of CB an MM together would be enough to justify the actual investigation.

It doesn't even need any sexual content, right?

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

(...)
But i assume, the answer to my question will follow very (!) soon...

I think you will have to wait like all of us for BKA/HCW to make a move ?!

 

[SuperdadV8]

I think you will have to wait like all of us for BKA/HCW to make a move ?!

So much faster than expected....

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

As i said before, just one single picture of CB an MM together would be enough to justify the actual investigation.

It doesn't even need any sexual content, right?

Think like this, those Interpol tools are very cool, so for one side police forces working on child abuse sites can for example find images and "feed" them to the database, they will input data as "unknown" victims for the system to attempt to match the images/videos to the already known victims. On another way they can feed data to the database to make matches and they can even supply ony for example MD5 hash of a file, meaning if for some reason they don't want for people to see a specific image of abuse they will "convert" it intro a unique "hash" so that others with the image can do the same and compare "hashes". When a child goes missing they add victim to the database as well, NOT as a child abuse image but as a "victim". They add photos provided by parents/family. This is used to compare with already entered data of non-id children under abuse.
In other words ALL pictures on the database that were collected for example from darkweb sites that were "busted" or even just "crawled" by Interpol teams will be "compared" by techniques of image matching with photos of missing children and sometimes even age progressed over diferent evolution conditions, etc ...
When they open a missing child entrie they will put the name of the child and all known photos for that child before abduction. Even "fakes". Meaning that they would open and entrie for MM, place there initial photos provided by parents and all found diferent photos on the net. This would include the single picture of CB with MM even if not sexual in nature. This would include photoshoped "jokes" found on the net, everything.... It doesn't need to be sexual content when added as missing victim. The "victim" is already assumed to be victim because it's missing, unlike someone that is considered victim because it's under abuse.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Think like this, those Interpol tools are very cool, so for one side police forces working on child abuse sites can for example find images and "feed" them to the database, they will input data as "unknown" victims for the system to attempt to match the images/videos to the already known victims. On another way they can feed data to the database to make matches and they can even supply ony for example MD5 hash of a file, meaning if for some reason they don't want for people to see a specific image of abuse they will "convert" it intro a unique "hash" so that others with the image can do the same and compare "hashes". When a child goes missing they add victim to the database as well, NOT as a child abuse image but as a "victim". They add photos provided by parents/family. This is used to compare with already entered data of non-id children under abuse.
In other words ALL pictures on the database that were collected for example from darkweb sites that were "busted" or even just "crawled" by Interpol teams will be "compared" by techniques of image matching with photos of missing children and sometimes even age progressed over diferent evolution conditions, etc ...
When they open a missing child entrie they will put the name of the child and all known photos for that child before abduction. Even "fakes". Meaning that they would open and entrie for MM, place there initial photos provided by parents and all found diferent photos on the net. This would include the single picture of CB with MM even if not sexual in nature. This would include photoshoped "jokes" found on the net, everything.... It doesn't need to be sexual content when added as missing victim. The "victim" is already assumed to be victim because it's missing, unlike someone that is considered victim because it's under abuse.

So...you mean we should put "Photoshop" into the equation?

 

[worldwatcher]

It is not only, - about face recognition.
Everything is analyzed from a photo, garments, furniture, logos.

Stop Child Abuse – Trace an Object

"The most innocent clues can sometimes help crack a case. The objects are all taken from the background of an image with sexually explicit material involving minors. For all images below, every other investigative avenue has already been examined. Therefore we are requesting your assistance in identifying the origin of some of these objects. We are convinced that more eyes will lead to more leads and will ultimately help to save these children."


Based on this success, the Australian Federal Police launched in March 2021 their own version of the Stop Child Abuse initiative focusing on the Asia Pacific region. Their images can be viewed at Stop Child Abuse - Trace an Object | ACCCE.

Guess that the children swimsuits found on the property of CB is also entered into the system:

"Spiegel TV said police had also found numerous items of children’s clothing – mostly “small swimsuits” – in the motorhome, even though Bruckener does not have any children."

Source:
Madeleine McCann suspect had 'children's swimming costumes'

 

[Dlk79]

 

[Betty_Boop88]

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[mrjitty]

My suspicion is HCW doesn't have the photos/videos but thinks they exist

 

[mrjitty]

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Welcome back!

You'll be amazed to know nothing has been happening!

 

[Anxala]

I think you may be thinking this already but:

1. They wouldn’t share it with the McCanns if they thought they were somehow involved;
2. There may be a reason not to share it if the McCann’s and T9 statements a a long way from what really happened that night.

The way HCW has handled (fumbled) the relationship with the McCanns and their seeming lack of engagement/support to the investigation seems weird to me. Perhaps the above could explain it.

No.2 remains my suspicion for a number of reasons. I mentioned 'timing' earlier, that it could be that what they know of CB and his alleged involvement does not tally with the timing of the accounts given by the T9 for that evening?

 

[tedtink]

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Good to see you back!

I nearly started a 'Missing WS member Dlk79' thread

 

[Anxala]

My suspicion is HCW doesn't have the photos/videos but thinks they exist

If he had photos/videos that actually connected CB to MM, that surely would be sufficient for him/the BKA to formally interview CB. To, at the very least, confront him with them and ask him how they came about.

This is a child that's disappeared off the face of the earth on (allegedly) the evening of May 3rd 2007. If 'photographic' evidence exists of her beyond that date, then that is hugely significant.

To believe that that type of evidence exists but is (apparently?) still regarded as not enough to follow through with by HCW/the BKA in terms of officially questioning CB tests every kind of credibility on their part.

 

[Dlk79]

Good to see you back!

I nearly started a 'Missing WS member Dlk79' thread

Well, it's been hard to get internet signal since they moved me to Oldenburg like.

 

[tedtink]

Well, it's been hard to get internet signal since they moved me to Oldenburg like.

 

[Tekno]

I’ve received my copy of Jon Clarke’s book. I noticed him giving credit to this Forum. Can we please engage with what is written in his book?

 

[Dlk79]

If he had photos/videos that actually connected CB to MM, that surely would be sufficient for him/the BKA to formally interview CB. To, at the very least, confront him with them and ask him how they came about.

This is a child that's disappeared off the face of the earth on (allegedly) the evening of May 3rd 2007. If 'photographic' evidence exists of her beyond that date, then that is hugely significant.

To believe that that type of evidence exists but is (apparently?) still regarded as not enough to follow through with by HCW/the BKA in terms of officially questioning CB tests every kind of credibility on their part.

The whole existence of video/pic evidence debate can't be resolved until HCW shows his hand. I don't agree that the current situation proves that BKA don't have some sort of digital evidence though. In fact, such evidence would go a long way to explaining the rationale behind HCW's statements.

If such a video exists, it could show anything. We cant assume that it shows a clear MM and/or CB but the content might be damning in various ways. Maybe just a body disposal on a device linked to him. That's why the argument that the parents would have had to been told about it is nonsense.
1. There is no need to have the parents ID the victim. There's enough content in the public domain for anyone to tell who it is in the video beyond any reasonable doubt if required. There is also no legal obligation, especially if revealing the evidence might compromise the investigation in some way, however heartless that might seem.
2. Perhaps the BKA don't want the parents involved. Maybe because if they revealed the evidence, it may put undue pressure on the dept to fast track the charge when they still want to collect more evidence. Or maybe because they don't want the media circus and distractions that the parents influenced in the previous investigations. Might also explain why HCW has engaged with the UK media directly so as to avoid any backdoor rumour "source-close-to-the-McCanns" stories.
3. We don't actually know what the parents have been told. They have been remarkably quiet though, which is unlike them. My peronal opinion is they have been told more details of the BKA evidence than we (the public) have. Apart from that initial clarification around the "letter", there's been no real comment from them directly about this running investigation, which is odd given what's gone on so far. The same applies to the radio silence from many other key people involved in the original timeline.

 

[worldwatcher]

I’ve received my copy of Jon Clarke’s book. I noticed him giving credit to this Forum. Can we please engage with what is written in his book?

I am very interested in his writing.

And for all others,who discouraged into buying or reading his book,only have to say,that MSM is just the same.

Newspaper articles can be very contradictory, also...
We have seen ,through decades that it didn't add up.Blaming|stalking the parents,just to sell their written story.
It can jeopardize the investigation,when media controls.

MOO

 

[mrjitty]

3. We don't actually know what the parents have been told. They have been remarkably quiet though, which is unlike them. My peronal opinion is they have been told more details of the BKA evidence than we (the public) have. Apart from that initial clarification around the "letter", there's been no real comment from them directly about this running investigation, which is odd given what's gone on so far. The same applies to the radio silence from many other key people involved in the original timeline.

RSBM

I was wondering about this as well. None of the usual planted stories from "a pal of gerry' etc

 

[SuperdadV8]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...-a-new-book-on-the-madeleine-mccann-case/amp/