Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #25

[vermisstekindersuche]

Exactly ! So even if he trully believe what he say and he is trully 100% honest guy doing the best that he can will the evidence back him up ? Sometimes we can be wrong and blind by something and that something might not be the same truth to the others. No way to tell without placing the cards on the table.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

Exactly ! So even if he trully believe what he say and he is trully 100% honest guy doing the best that he can will the evidence back him up ? Sometimes we can be wrong and blind by something and that something might not be the same truth to the others. No way to tell without placing the cards on the table.

So for example now that we are debating this, it's NOT that GA is a "lier" it's just that he does believe 100% in what he is saying even when others don't see "reality" the same way he do. Again GA and HCW, both LEA, 2 different sollutions. Can we tell for sure that one is correct ? We can't even know if it wasn't "something else" like another PEDO/kidnapper that was nearby, etc, untill we can have something to work with.

If HCW shows us for example a photo of MM after abduction with CB then I will ask 1000 times for sorry and I will say "ok, there is no doubt" but should I trust his word of "if you guys had what i do have you will think the same way i do" ? Decide for yourself.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

Do i like the way HCW is using for investigating this ? NO, i don't. Why ? Mainly because he is adding to the grieve of others/parents/families and it's not providing anything conclusive in return. Do I think ends justify means ? No. Do you think MM family is not suffering with this ? Do you think many other families are "happy" with this ? For example interview with RH father. If this will bring something positive at the end, meaning with a closure to MM case then yes, but i will still have issues with the method used. Maybe at the end method and means justify ends. But if things keept as they are now forever ... what all of this people gained ? Hope ? Closure ? Knowing that someone do have "secret evidences" that might show that someone killed MM but not having the guy charged, arrested, and not knowing what the guy did to the child or if she died on the appartment or was taken or was sold to others like that 2 russians thing ... wouldn't it be better for the family if HCW didn't had stated anything at all to start with if there wasn't guarantte of charge and no intention for later revealing the data to the parents ?

Just let's wait and see, again i might be unfair and HCW might be a wounderfull person and end up surprizing me and for example even if he can't charge he can tell MM parents what the evidence were...

But even with all of that, i wouldn't stand to be on MM parents sittuation, i would simply go insane. No doubt.

 

[snowpea666]

If CB killed MM why to "expose on the playground" to the kids and aparently with another guy there ? Most likely they were playing, both pedophiles, one daring the other to show his parts, whatever, do i think that a child murderer that killed MM would do that in public ? NO, i don't. He raped the older woman and was very fast, leave she alive, the Irish one took hours, was alive as well, abused the 10 years old but didn't rape her, on public place, same goes for 5 years old daughter of girlfriend, did he had the need to kill, restrain, torture ? NO. If he were to be someone like that and were to do what he did stated on the chat were he then be satisfyed just with ordinary exposing of his genitals ? Most likely not.

What I think is that IF he did kill MM he would have a "type" or a "criminal type" that doesn't match at all with other crimes that aparently he is wanted for.

So you think both peados were just playing together, having a laugh and showing little kids his dick just for innocent fun ! this being done by a man who raped and beat two women and abused at least 3 children, was he just playing then ? and please tell me what is ordinary about a convicted peado exposing himself to little children in a playground? Are you ok ?

 

[Betty_Boop88]

… And no sexual criminal has ever escalated their crimes from flashing to murder…

 

[tedtink]

CB would do anything for money, wouldn't him ? He would deal drugs, he would sell children, etc ... what about be in the position he is now for money ?

You said it first!
Maybe he took and killed MM for money? Was it commissioned?

If CB killed MM why to "expose on the playground" to the kids and aparently with another guy there ? Most likely they were playing, both pedophiles, one daring the other to show his parts, whatever, do i think that a child murderer that killed MM would do that in public ? NO, i don't. He raped the older woman and was very fast, leave she alive, the Irish one took hours, was alive as well, abused the 10 years old but didn't rape her, on public place, same goes for 5 years old daughter of girlfriend, did he had the need to kill, restrain, torture ? NO. If he were to be someone like that and were to do what he did stated on the chat were he then be satisfyed just with ordinary exposing of his genitals ? Most likely not.

Maybe the 'horrible job' that will 'change his life' WAS out of his comfort zone? Went further than his own usual sexual gratification or usual MO, or level of 'acceptability' ? IF we accept that quote was correct from the friend of the X GF.

… And no sexual criminal has ever escalated their crimes from flashing to murder…

Exactly - Agree - Most have.

JMO

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

So you think both peados were just playing together, having a laugh and showing little kids his dick just for innocent fun ! this being done by a man who raped and beat two women and abused at least 3 children, was he just playing then ? and please tell me what is ordinary about a convicted peado exposing himself to little children in a playground? Are you ok ?

On my post i was assuming that both pedos on the playgroung were not/related to CB. Meaning I was saying the killer would then go to a friend to the playground expose himself ?

 

[Betty_Boop88]

Why would you assume that when we know for a fact it was CB? He was arrested at the scene ffs

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

… And no sexual criminal has ever escalated their crimes from flashing to murder…

MM went missing on 2007, flashing and other abuses were way later, If he would be so obcessed with capturing/torturing/raping/filming for days and days back on 2007 when MM went missing he would had done that and would be "happy" with just flashing on the park (with huge risk of exposing himself) and abuse little girl daughter of girlfriend with big risk of been detected ? Wouldn't he want to torture ? Why to bother flashing if he could kidnapp, take kids to his horror movie factory, place them on his car riddled with bullets and cut them with the scissor ? For example ...

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

Why would you assume that when we know for a fact it was CB? He was arrested at the scene ffs

So if he had done that for sure as he was arrested on the scene was him that commited the other crimes as well ?

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

Why would you assume that when we know for a fact it was CB? He was arrested at the scene ffs

Sorry, I forgot about that. But yes, on that instance it was CB, wouldn't change the fact that he would still need to kill MM prior to that. Meaning someone who killed later risked himslef with another guy just flashing.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

MM went missing on 2007, flashing and other abuses were way later, If he would be so obcessed with capturing/torturing/raping/filming for days and days back on 2007 when MM went missing he would had done that and would be "happy" with just flashing on the park (with huge risk of exposing himself) and abuse little girl daughter of girlfriend with big risk of been detected ? Wouldn't he want to torture ? Why to bother flashing if he could kidnapp, take kids to his horror movie factory, place them on his car riddled with bullets and cut them with the scissor ? For example ...

Are you serious? He was charged AT SEVENTEEN for abusing a six year old child.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

By your logic, as his first charge came at 17 years old for CHILD ABUSE, he’d have never gone back to flashing. Yet we know he did.

You’re off your rocker.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

By your logic, as his first charge came at 17 years old for CHILD ABUSE, he’d have never gone back to flashing. Yet we know he did.

You’re off your rocker.

Yeh, you are fully correct. I was not thinking properly.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

I just placed some folowed postes while I was thinking but i do confess i didn't investigate the life of CB to that detail so .... Guess i was totally wrong ! So yes, you are correct on that.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

I did just write random ideas/posts with random theories but to be honest i was only "exploring" the fact that CB could be innocent of MM case as for #25 threads now most users do believe he is guilty, at least the ones still here writting.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

Yeh, you are fully correct. I was not thinking properly.

At least you can hold your hands up.
AFAIK, nobody on here is a sexual criminal so we don’t know how their minds work. But we do know they get brave and escalate. CB has been committing serious crimes against children for all of his adult life. It is absolutely not beyond the realm of possibility for me that he escalated to murder. In fact, I’d be more shocked if he didn’t.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

At least you can hold your hands up.
AFAIK, nobody on here is a sexual criminal so we don’t know how their minds work. But we do know they get brave and escalate. CB has been committing serious crimes against children for all of his adult life. It is absolutely not beyond the realm of possibility for me that he escalated to murder.

I have to be fair with you, I know an old case (that i will not mention but there are many like that) that was exactly like that, the guy was an "abuser" just by flashing/touching children and end up as a murderer, so yes, unfortunatly i do have saw that as well.

 

[tedtink]

I did just write random ideas/posts with random theories but to be honest i was only "exploring" the fact that CB could be innocent of MM case as for #25 threads now most users do believe he is guilty, at least the ones still here writting.

Again, you're putting words in our mouths.
Nobody on here has said or would say that CB is guilty at this time.

 

[tedtink]

I did just write random ideas/posts with random theories but to be honest i was only "exploring" the fact that CB could be innocent of MM case as for #25 threads now most users do believe he is guilty, at least the ones still here writting.

You should go back and read all 25 threads and info on CB before posting 'random theories' - It would spare us a lot of time updating you on a subject that you profess to have little interest in.

JC's book might be a good start, it'll save you so much time