Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #26

[JB1510]

But sure, let's hope that i'm wrong so that all of this can end and BKA can have all the credit for it, and again i will say that i'm sorry for my bad judgment and will admitt that i was wrong and i was a very lousy "detective"... but from my experience - again - I DID NEVER EVER saw a case "investigated" like this one where i can't understand a single step of the investigation itself and i'm not even talking about the criminal/suspect side, i'm saying i did never saw any missing person case investigated like this.

Not quoting your above post but thought this may be of interest as is Portuguese and your native language, also episode 29 .


Sexta às 9 Episódio 28 - de 18 Set 2020 - RTP Play - RTP

 

[worldwatcher]

The problem at this point is the absurdity of HCW's media strategy

He could have done a proper on the record press briefing to all major outlets, in which case we'd have primary reporting in both German and English, from reputable outlets, where we could reply on accurate quotes.

Instead he apparently have an exclusive to the Mirror.

This is getting beyond what one would consider appropriate/normal behaviour from an investigative body.

Hi
FYI, Germany has strickt privacy rules.
So with this all concidered,I applaud Germany for that!
It is better this way...

It's MSM , "tabloids" that is making a mess ,imo.

So ,..all we have to do is wait..,till German LE/prosecutor drags CB to court,or going around in circles -again!

I prefer to wait, -untill that-,I celebrate every day ,that CB is behind bars!
Hope he rot in jail.

✓MOO^

 

[Anxala]

Thanks for your honest opinion! HCW didn't say more, than he did months before.

IMO the investigation is still going on. The state of progress may be discussable.

If you ask me, according to MM, we look at....?!

Why should a prosecutor say what he has???

It's not about him disclosing what the BKA has - no one would expect that, frustrating as it is for those of us following the case - it's about him and the manner in which he's approached and released information to the media. As primary spokesperson for such a prominent investigation, he knows the contentious history of it, he knows all the theories, he knows everything he says will be pounced on, scrutinised and held up to the light. He should have been far more measured in his dealings with the press and far less available in particular to the tabloid media.

He needs to take ownership of all the conflicting info that's out there instead of acting surprised/wounded by it, and take real stock in terms of how he proceeds if he wants the BKA investigation to be perceived as actually homeward bound rather than stuck on some endless, map-less, pointless journey.

 

[SuperdadV8]

It's not about him disclosing what the BKA has - no one would expect that, frustrating as it is for those of us following the case - it's about him and the manner in which he's approached and released information to the media. As primary spokesperson for such a prominent investigation, he knows the contentious history of it, he knows all the theories, he knows everything he says will be pounced on, scrutinised and held up to the light. He should have been far more measured in his dealings with the press and far less available in particular to the tabloid media.

He needs to take ownership of all the conflicting info that's out there instead of acting surprised by it, and take stock in terms of how he proceeds if he wants the BKA investigation to be perceived as actually homeward bound rather than stuck on some endless, map-less, pointless journey.

I'm sure HCW, or the Brunswick prosecutors, take ownership of everything. The fact is, a public inquiry can always be a sign of:

1. The investigation is stuck somewhere, so they need more leads.

2. The prosecutors try to gather information about other similar or otherwise related crimes of the suspect.

3. They are looking for a possibility to find MM's body as the crucial part for a murder case.

I doubt that the investigation is stuck in this case, because 2 years until the inquiry is a looooong period!

Point 2. and 3. seem way more plausible, because they do not have the need to hurry.

Unsatisfying for us, of course! But professional in some way. I'm confident, that all the small things will come together.

 

[worldwatcher]

I'm sure HCW, or the Brunswick prosecutors, take ownership of everything. The fact is, a public inquiry can always be a sign of:

1. The investigation is stuck somewhere, so they need more leads.

2. The prosecutors try to gather information about other similar or otherwise related crimes of the suspect.

3. They are looking for a possibility to find MM's body as the crucial part for a murder case.

I doubt that the investigation is stuck in this case, because 2 years until the inquiry is a looooong period!

Point 2. and 3. seem way more plausible, because they do not have the need to hurry.

Unsatisfying for us, of course! But professional in some way. I'm confident, that all the small things will come together.

I hope many charges will pursued,by his ex girl friend, assault of child abuse,pornografi etc, etc.!!!
^Ongoing.... ^

 

[SuperdadV8]

I hope many charges will pursued,by his ex girl friend, assault of child abuse,pornografi etc, etc.!!!
^Ongoing.... ^

That should't be something, the BKA isn't aware of! But they investigate on a wider scale. Even because he has been sentenced and went to prison for as well.

I'm convinced, that the main evidence is something, the media and we all have no idea about.

But it's just a guess....

But yes, a connection to the paedo darkweb seems to be obvious!

 

[worldwatcher]

That should't be something, the BKA isn't aware of! They investigate on a wider scale. Even because he has been sentenced and went to prison for as well.

I'm convinced, that the main evidence is something, the media and we all have no idea about.

But it's just a guess....

But yes, a connection to the paedo darkweb seems to be obvious!

Well, hope they drop a bombshell at CB, if they can't round up the kidnapping of MM.

For God's sake, CB smashed his ex girl friends head against the wall for hugging a man:
"She also alleged that Brueckner bashed her head against a wall for innocently hugging another man."
Madeleine McCann Case: Christian Brueckner's ex says he slammed her head against a wall for hugging another man

He preys on the weak, but it is himself, who is weak, he choose to destroy others, because he can't walk his own path.
No matter how shattered, his born life was, there are so many others, who survived from it.
CB couldn't do it, that is why, I hope he remains behind bars.
He choose to be a monster!

And yesss, I still think he had something to do with the disappearance of Inga G.

As always,speaking from my gut feeling, moo

 

[SuperdadV8]

Well, hope they drop a bombshell at CB, if they can't round up the kidnapping of MM.

For God's sake, CB smashed his ex girl friends head against the wall for hugging a man:
"She also alleged that Brueckner bashed her head against a wall for innocently hugging another man."
Madeleine McCann Case: Christian Brueckner's ex says he slammed her head against a wall for hugging another man

He preys on the weak, but it is himself, who is weak, he choose to destroy others, because he can't walk his own path.
No matter how shattered, his born life was, there are so many others, who survived from it.
CB couldn't do it, that is why, I hope he remains behind bars.
He choose to be a monster!

And yesss, I still think he had something to do with the disappearance of Inga G.

As always,speaking from my gut feeling, moo

I'm with you. CB seems to have some serious antisocial issues and dangerous urges. Combined with some kind of intelligent behavior. Very dangerous melange IMO.

Not the first person that could fit the pattern of a very dangerous mind.

 

[Dlk79]

Apart from the interviews he did early on, which were obviously geared towards a mass media appeal, HCW hasn't really said much new in the last 12 months. It's mostly tabloids just putting spin on his quotes to generate stories and clicks.

I honestly think most (if not all) the tabloid stories we see with his 'quotes' are ones in which they've approached him for comment, normally asking to respond to whatever MM related article is doing the rounds. I don't think he is actually approaching them.

And ok, I do get why some people might find his willingness to engage so readily with the tabloids odd. But he's not usually giving anything anyway that we didn't already know. Yes, he could just refuse to comment, but then people would start jumping on that as some sign that the case must be failing, given how open he was (and needed to be for the appeal) at the start. The tabloids especially so!

The media are HCWs greatest ally in getting a successful appeal. And in the same breath, they could also be his worst enemy if they choose to start pursuing another angle to report this case from. We've seen it before. The tabloids don't let the truth get in the way of a good story, that's just a bonus for them. That's why I only tend to take the "direct quotes" seriously. If they add something like "sources said..." I treat it with a large degree of scepticism. And anything that sounds like groundbreaking news without any source to back it up, I pretty much ignore. That's just how the tabloids roll unfortunately and it's not for HCW to police that.

So anyway, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that HCW would prefer to keep the press on side. And if that means throwing them a bone every now and then when they ask for one, he probably see that as the safer option to keep them placated. He doesn't want to end up another GA or any of the thousand other players in the MM case who have been savaged at some point by the tabloids in the last 14 years. In fact I struggle to think of anyone who's come out of it in a positive light. And BKA will be very aware of that too.

And whether HCW might be privately frustrated that stories are getting twisted, the truth still is that with every story that gets printed, it's an opportunity that another potential witness might be reached. And ultimately that is the BKA's end goal.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Everything i assume (!) to know about CB points out to the circumstance, to be a narcissist. Maybe even a "gaslighting" one. Everything that happens and he maybe did, isn't based on his responsibility.

He beats up his girlfriends, because they made him to do so, because of their behavior for example.

He is mocking up prosecutors, because they make him to do so, because they do not reveal what they have got against him.

He mocks up the justice-system, because they do not protect him as a kind of "minority", he is assuming to be one of the ones that have to be protected.

He abuses small children, because they do not tell them to stop?

And so on....

He never claimed to be innocent. Everything he does points out to a statement like: "I'm innocent until you prove me wrong!"

Very transparent behavior IMO. Wouldn't be surprised, if his fosterparents told him the same whilst beating him up! "You made me do it!" ?!

 

[Lilly b]

Well, hope they drop a bombshell at CB, if they can't round up the kidnapping of MM.

For God's sake, CB smashed his ex girl friends head against the wall for hugging a man:
"She also alleged that Brueckner bashed her head against a wall for innocently hugging another man."
Madeleine McCann Case: Christian Brueckner's ex says he slammed her head against a wall for hugging another man

He preys on the weak, but it is himself, who is weak, he choose to destroy others, because he can't walk his own path.
No matter how shattered, his born life was, there are so many others, who survived from it.
CB couldn't do it, that is why, I hope he remains behind bars.
He choose to be a monster!

And yesss, I still think he had something to do with the disappearance of Inga G.

As always,speaking from my gut feeling, moo

I put a post on IG thread the other day, I'm sure they have tried rule him out , he may have an alibi from someone, was looking at the dates in the link but this should be discussed on that thread, if that's ok

 

[SuperdadV8]

Everything i assume (!) to know about CB points out to the circumstance, to be a narcissist. Maybe even a "gaslighting" one. Everything that happens and he maybe did, isn't based on his responsibility.

He beats up his girlfriends, because they made him to do so, because of their behavior for example.

He is mocking up prosecutors, because they make him to do so, because they do not reveal what they have got against him.

He mocks up the justice-system, because they do not protect him as a kind of "minority", he is assuming to be one of the ones that have to be protected.

He abuses small children, because they do not tell them to stop?

And so on....

He never claimed to be innocent. Everything he does points out to a statement like: "I'm innocent until you prove me wrong!"

Very transparent behavior IMO. Wouldn't be surprised, if his fosterparents told him the same whilst beating him up! "You made me do it!" ?!

I could even imagine, that he is doing the same to FF. FF became very neutral IMO. Not long ago, he promoted CB as a perfect dogsitter....

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

And yesss, I still think he had something to do with the disappearance of Inga G.

Keep dreaming !

The way you want for a pedophile to have hurt/tortured a little child that most likely was not even taken by anyone to start with (and you keep insisting on that) is just beyond words... This is why I hate WS so much. This is the only reason why i wish CB is "clear" from MM case as well. The ones who want it all loose it all.

It's funny that you think CB did had anything to do with little Inga disapearance but you never talk for example that even last year a guy on Salle/Halle very near from WF as well dia actually try to kill a little girl after abusing her and trowing her to a river for death. This guy is like many others on the nearby vincinity a REAL killer and would be like many others that were checked a potential attacker, way more than CB that up untill now was not charged with a single crime.

Near WF there were many other sexual predators that were checked by routine and simply discarded, same as on MM PJ files, they do this is a process routine/method.

CB was checked during 2015/2016 and discarded, then when they were aware that CB could had taken MM they have simply done what they do when a real murderer is found, open all process to check if killer would match other crimes. Sta Stendal contacted the ones on the MM investigation, asked if they had ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL that could point out CB as someone involved on little Inga case and the answer that they got is what you have on JC book that you trust so much.

Insane that you keep on pushing this idea, as a matter of fact if this hasn't been brought to public attention I wouldn't be posting here to start with.

Again, when there are still so many options on little Inga case whu would you want so badly for a pedophile to have taken/abused of Her to keep on talking about this so many times ? For me is very disturbing.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

I put a post on IG thread the other day, I'm sure they have tried rule him out , he may have an alibi from someone, was looking at the dates in the link but this should be discussed on that thread, if that's ok

They wanted CB so badly for MM crime and others do you think that if they did had a single chance of little doubth about little Inga wouldn't they simply add that to what they wanted CB for ?

I told many times, they do know very well where he was when our little Inga went missing, if you chose to believe that or not it's just that. Simple fact that you guys do believe HCW when he talks about "secret evidences" and everyone thinks he will be charged with MM case but no-one believes that he doesn't have anything to do with little Inga case when ALL Sta Stendal + even HCW states so is amazing .... Not to mention that the way they want CB to be charged for MM would be way more "strong" if they could relate him to little Inga case. Don't you think that it doesn't make any sense for them to "exclude" him if they don't know for sure the guy was NOT ON THE AREA when little Inga did went missing ?

 

[worldwatcher]

I put a post on IG thread the other day, I'm sure they have tried rule him out , he may have an alibi from someone, was looking at the dates in the link but this should be discussed on that thread, if that's ok

I know,I saw,I read..
Am bouncing between 2 threads,so bear with me,...pls!
Kinda tricky,isn't it?

Sorry guys,going off topic from Madeleine McCann,here ...
CB investigation into MM, started with IG,seems he was ruled out,because of lack of his phone pings,well ...
Case closed,they said,after raiding his property.

Seems like ,German LE is taking a fresh look at IG case.

Luckily (off topic again) an 8 year old girl was found -Alive& safe- after being lost for 2 days, in a forest.
In the media,there was a compairse of Maddie,but I do think it was more a reference for Inga,at least,that is what I thought,when I checked my google newsfeed..so much for facts and MSM,right??!

And @vermisstekindersuche ,no wild life ,that snatched the 8 year old girl,incase you missed it?!
She was luckily found alive & safe!
Kudos to all the helpful rescues!

Sorry ,had to share this happy ending!

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

I put a post on IG thread the other day, I'm sure they have tried rule him out , he may have an alibi from someone, was looking at the dates in the link but this should be discussed on that thread, if that's ok

Goes without saying that no-one apart from followers of MM crime/case will reply to your post there because anyone with reasonable common sense will not "force" a suspect that was ruled out already. This is disturbing to say the least.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

I know,I saw,I read..
Am bouncing between 2 threads,so bear with me,...pls!
Kinda tricky,isn't it?

Sorry guys,going off topic from Madeleine McCann,here ...
CB investigation into MM, started with IG,seems he was ruled out,because of lack of his phone pings,well ...
Case closed,they said,after raiding his property.

Seems like ,German LE is taking a fresh look at IG case.

Luckily (off topic again) an 8 year old girl was found -Alive& safe- after being lost for 2 days, in a forest.
In the media,there was a compairse of Maddie,but I do think it was more a reference for Inga,at least,that is what I thought,when I checked my google newsfeed..so much for facts and MSM,right??!

And @vermisstekindersuche ,no wild life ,that snatched the 8 year old girl,incase you missed it?!
She was luckily found alive & safe!
Kudos to all the helpful rescues!

Sorry ,had to share this happy ending!

Many, Many cases of little ones that went missing by themselfs and are found/or not. Take for example little Noah case in Portugal very recently. The little boy walked for 10 kms ALL ALONE and was way younger that little Inga. And on UK you did had another case and we are just talking very recent cases. And goes without saying that on Noah they used all the same methods that they did use on little Inga like IR cameras, dogs, etc and even drones. The boy was found by a resident. ALL methods including dogs FAIL.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

(...)
CB investigation into MM, started with IG,seems he was ruled out,because of lack of his phone pings,well ...
Case closed,they said,after raiding his property.

This was what MEDIA made people believe.

CB "investigation" on MM started back on 2013 and little Inga went missing on 2015. Remember CB was called to reply in Germany because of MM ? Then there was the Helge B. decalarions that started this all.

Raiding CB property was because NEIGHBOURS did complain about illigal deposit of junk/smell. They did never have a warrant because he was never a suspect or person of interest on little Inga case. Just checked like many, many other guys with sexual crimes on record, same they have done on PJ files for MM case. Many of those guys you are not even aware of...

 

[frank-cole]

They wanted CB so badly for MM crime and others do you think that if they did had a single chance of little doubth about little Inga wouldn't they simply add that to what they wanted CB for ?

I told many times, they do know very well where he was when our little Inga went missing, if you chose to believe that or not it's just that. Simple fact that you guys do believe HCW when he talks about "secret evidences" and everyone thinks he will be charged with MM case but no-one believes that he doesn't have anything to do with little Inga case when ALL Sta Stendal + even HCW states so is amazing .... Not to mention that the way they want CB to be charged for MM would be way more "strong" if they could relate him to little Inga case. Don't you think that it doesn't make any sense for them to "exclude" him if they don't know for sure the guy was NOT ON THE AREA when little Inga did went missing ?

Regarding the MM case, the BKA have enough evidence to charge CB. Therefore there must be substantial evidence against CB. A pedophile who wants to abduct, assault & murder little girls, was directly outside of the apartment where a little girl went missing from. Even without considering the evidence, the fact he was at the scene is a enough to raise alarm bells for any competent detective.
Regarding the Inge case. HCW/BKA have stated that they don’t have concrete evidence against CB in that case. That statement has several layers to it. The fact that they’ve shelved the Inge case but are still very heavily invested in the MM case,l adds further clarity to the likelihood that they have significant evidence in the MM case. If they didn’t then they’d have shelved it, just as they did with the Inge case.

One glance of the Inge case does draw many similarities in the type of victim both with age, sex and appearance . A predatory pedophile who wants to abduct, assault & murder little girls, was in close proximity to not 1 but 2 separate cases of missing young girls. The BKA may have information to eliminate CB as a suspect in the Inge case. But if they haven’t it’s a very unsettling & unlikely to be a mere coincidence.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

(...)One glance of the Inge case does draw many similarities in the type of victim both with age, sex and appearance . A predatory pedophile who wants to abduct, assault & murder little girls, was in close proximity to not 1 but 2 separate cases of missing young girls. The BKA may have information to eliminate CB as a suspect in the Inge case. But if they haven’t it’s a very unsettling & unlikely to be a mere coincidence.

If he wasn't ruled out for sure you would see HCW + Sta Stendal LEA asking help to public even if on the MM case context. They are targetting CB on a MM case, UK girl missing on PT and they wouldn't target him over a German little girl if they weren't to be 100% sure that he is "clear". Sure ...

Also just because a predatory type of Pedophile would target MM doesn't necessarly mean that the same guy would have any interest on little Inga.

And whatever they have against CB on MM case is specific to MM. Whatever that is, if a confession, text files, whatever, never for a single time little Inga was mentioned/included by CB on this.

They even want him for "abstract" PT crimes like showing/flashing to children (that will put him in jail just a couple of years) and they would miss out a chance to link him to another missing child ? No way. If they could they would simply link him as well. They are not doing that because they know very well that they simply can't.