Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #29

[Davieson]

Read it as: CB and his phone were reunited at 6 km. So if a thief had stolen his phone, the same thief would have to have joined CB at 6km. Whether or not he returned the phone openly.
It is FF who claimed that CB was at a 6km distance based on a ping from his phone. Whereas BKA claims his phone pinged at 5A.

CB cannot use the "someone stole my phone" story without naming the thief.

Is this from a police statement or according to a newspaper?

 

[RichardKimble]

Well according to MWT, CB has already given him a detailed account of where he was and what he was doing on the 3rd.

We also don't know what CB said to police back in 2013 when he was summoned as a witness and asked to account for his whereabouts. This was well before the phone evidence was known so he may well have lied about being somewhere else.

The phone call it would seem in that case point's to his alibi which stands up with what he said in 2013, this is the point for Wolters to demolish , seems he can't with no charges after 22 months from the appeal.

 

[Anxala]

Too be fair Anxala, while being sceptical, you've always given the impression of having an open mind on CB being the culprit. Others though clearly show no such objectivity, they decided long ago who is to blame for MM's disappearance, perhaps that's why you are getting that impression of people treating them with suspicion.

Yes, I'm both sceptical and open-minded. The two can happily co-exist. What keeps me open-minded is my inability to believe the BKA - a professional police force - could have embarked so sensationally on a declaration of guilt on the part of CB, in such a high-profile and contentious case, without serious evidence behind its claim. I still believe the BKA believes that what it has leaves no room for ambiguity. Without knowing what it has, I still have to believe that that's what they believe.

What keeps me sceptical is the BKA's abject failure to deliver on that sensational June 2020 promise, HCW's shifty goalpost shifting ever since, and now his and the BKA's apparent current focus on 'other cases' that CB 'may' have involvement with and which 'may' result in charges at some undetermined time in the future. Which may happen or may not.

That's where I am and where I will stay until HCW/the BKA delivers. And now that I've (yet again) explained my stance - which has never changed since I've been posting on here - it would be nice if I could just be allowed to have this entirely reasonable stance and not have to explain it and/or justify it anytime it clashes with other stances on here.

It's up to HCW to provide clarity and the goods, not me.

 

[Dlk79]

Hopefully we'll see the MWT doc arrive soon and find out what this 'alibi' actually entails. And hopefully also find out whether CB admits the phone belonged to him and if he does, what explanation he gives for it.

Until then, it's a pointless and circular argument. Until we know where exactly CB claims to have been that night, and what he claims about the phone, this is all moot.

Given that HCW really wants to definitively place the phone in his hand at 8pm though, it would suggest that whatever CB told them in 2013, it wasn't that he was in PDL at that time. Otherwise, they'd have no need to confirm it, they'd have his own admission he was there.

 

[tedtink]

 

[Dlk79]

And now that I've (yet again) explained my stance, it would be nice if I could just be allowed to have this stance and not have to explain it and/or justify it anytime it clashes with other stances on here.

I didn't ask you to explain your stance.

I made a joke, which you clearly misunderstood, since you then appeared to accuse me of treating you with "suspicion".

I suggest we move on.

 

[misty48]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-alibi-backed-26781760

CB reportedly has 4 witnesses backing his alibi according to MWT documentary.

 

[Dlk79]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-alibi-backed-26781760

CB reportedly has 4 witnesses backing his alibi according to MWT documentary.

A Channel 5 insider said: “Christian Brueckner has provided a very detailed alibi for the days leading up to and after Madeleine’s disappearance.

“That has been checked out by our team and fully examined. We’ve spoken to four people who have gone on the record to independently, in different ways, support his alibi. They have got nothing to benefit from supporting him and, in fact, a couple of those people really don’t like him but they have still backed his account.”

Sounds like it's saying those 4 witnesses support his story for the days leading up to after the event, not necessarily at the time of the crime which is what really matters.

 

[Davieson]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-alibi-backed-26781760

CB reportedly has 4 witnesses backing his alibi according to MWT documentary.

That could put the cat among the pigeons. So many have decided he has no alibi.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Tabloids keeping to roll over again.

Remaining silent or presenting alibis? I doubt, that CB lost a single word to a prosecutor!

But clicks are making money...

 

[Dlk79]

That could put the cat among the pigeons. So many have decided he has no alibi.

One thing to bear in mind is that MWT always hands over his findings to the investigating authorities ahead of the documentary broadcast. Watch any of his docs and he always says this at the end of the program. So I think it's pretty much certain, that whatever he's uncovered, the BKA and German Prosecutors know about it. They are still saying CB is their prime suspect and they are still pushing to charge. So I have doubts that this 'alibi' is as strong as MWT is trying to sell it as.

 

[Lilly b]

The why interests me as well.
He has convictions for child abuse, but they have all been fairly low level.
Abduction/disposal of Madeleine is a big step up from that, so what triggered it ?

Mmm,. Because you start low and work your way up,. People have to start somewhere, you get away with it, you want to do it again, it then goes further,. From what I see and read

 

[tedtink]

That could put the cat among the pigeons. So many have decided he has no alibi.

Whose cat?

 

[SuperdadV8]

One thing to bear in mind is that MWT always hands over his findings to the investigating authorities ahead of the documentary broadcast. Watch any of his docs and he always says this at the end of the program. So I think it's pretty much certain, that whatever he's uncovered, the BKA and German Prosecutors know about it. They are still saying CB is their prime suspect and they are still pushing to charge. So I have doubts that this 'alibi' is as strong as MWT is trying to sell it as.

Right, obviously he has.

And yes, he is still the suspect #1.

They know, that he may have been involved. Knowing is one thing. But proving it is another thing. Must be a difficult situation for them.

But time is on their side, hopefully!

 

[Alternative Paradox]

That could put the cat among the pigeons. So many have decided he has no alibi.

It has yet to be shown he does have a valid alibi, does it not?

 

[Davieson]

It has yet to be shown he does have a valid alibi, does it not?

Hence my use of the word 'could', a word used to indicate possibility.

 

[Alternative Paradox]

Whose cat?

Not mine, I ain't got one so pigeons ain't gonna fly - what does that mean for CB I wonder?

 

[Dlk79]

Madeleine McCann suspect KNOWS what happened to her, says his 'sex slave' ex

PRIME Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B confessed to a former lover he knew “what happened to little Maddie from England”.

Anastasia Meckesy also described the child sex predator — now in jail for rape — as a “human pig” who treated her like his sex slave.

He forced her to dress as a schoolgirl at a swingers club and seemed to hate women, she added.

Anastasia, 34, told The Sun on Sunday: “He said that he ‘knows what happened to little Maddie from England’.

“He said she was ‘probably handed over’ to someone after being taken and, if she were still alive today, they would have found her by now’.

“We had spoken about the case because the local police wanted to question him. He was nervous and seemed stressed.

“He didn’t say much about it — just, ‘I lived in Portugal at that time in the Algarve and everyone is suspicious’.”

Anastasia, 34, said Christian B admitted to her he was under suspicion in 2013.

She had met him at a kiosk-style café he ran in Braunschweig, 40 miles from Hanover.

She said: “Everyone in the scene went there to get something to smoke because he was well known for getting stuff like that. I met his mates there. It was all very sociable.

“Then Christian started something with me — kissing, touching, fumbling — and we ended up in bed. He made me his sex slave.”

She said he was also seeing a teenage girl at the same time.

Anastasia, then an arts student at university, added: “He was back and forth between the two of us. But I didn’t care.

“At some point he dragged me to a swingers club. It was fun at first, but it soon stopped being fun.

“I had to dress up like a schoolgirl.

“But Christian didn’t pay any attention to how I felt. When I complained about going there he got aggressive.

“A friend of mine lived with Christian’s friend in the house next door. We used to all go to the swingers club together.

“But it got too much for both of us, me and the other woman, so we both ran away from it all.”

Anastasia said she felt Christian B “hated women”.

In January this year, another former girlfriend, Nicole Fehlinger, told how she lived with Christian B in the Algarve in 2001.

Anastasia believes she once saw him arguing with her.

She said: “I was in the kiosk and the two of them were in the private rooms.

“I heard them shouting and then he came out to the kiosk and drank a Jägermeister after another.

“I asked him what was going on and he replied, ‘Nothing is going on. It is just a friend from Portugal who is stressed’.

“I knew Christian was lying. He was sweating and aggressive.”

Fehlinger was herself implicated in the case when it was reported Christian B might have called her number in the Praia da Luz area on the night of the abduction.

But she protested her innocence, saying: “I have nothing to do with the disappearance and am not involved in the case. I was his lover, not his accomplice.”


Hmm, interesting. So CB in 2013 learns police want to question him. At the same time, NF turns up on the scene and they are arguing. Was he asking for an alibi? Or getting their stories straight ahead of the police station visit?

 

[Alternative Paradox]

Hence my use of the word 'could'

At least you acknowledge he may NOT have an alibi then.

 

[Davieson]

At least you acknowledge he may NOT have an alibi then.

Of course. When did I say otherwise ?