Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #3

[Armchair_Defective]

The Portuguese really have some answering to do if this woman can recognise the items to be the same...we do more detective work unpaid than this so-called police force!

Do you mean recognise the similarities with the 2007 rape? It would not really be the Portuguese's fault as the 72 year old was raped as Bruckner wore a mask. Details only came to light years later when someone saw a video of the rape.
Lack of forensics is where you could criticise but there is often not much forensic evidence in rape cases, it's why so many rape cases are never prosecuted all over the world.

 

[Deleted member 268067]

Just saw this about Peggy Knobloch:

Verschwundene Peggy: Bisher keine Verbindung zu Christian B. und zum Fall Maddie

It's German, I can't translate all of it but the prosecutor says so far there is no link to CB, no personal, areal or temporal connection. If the translation makes sense, I'm not too bad at translating from English to German, but the other way around ...

Thank you. I’ve been wondering about this as I thought he was in Bavaria at this point.

 

[Wowno17]

Do you mean recognise the similarities with the 2007 rape? It would not really be the Portuguese's fault as the 72 year old was raped as Bruckner wore a mask. Details only came to light years when someone saw a video of the rape.
Lack of forensics is where you could criticise but there is often not much forensic evidence in rape cases, it's why so many rape cases are never prosecuted all over the world.

No the OP (I believe) is referring to the Irish woman who was raped and has come forward.

There was a link to it not long ago.

MOO

ETA link

Tubridy floored by ‘bravery’ of woman sharing her harrowing rape ordeal live on air

 

[heidigrey]

She also says in that article She also recalled a distinctive mark on the top of his right thigh, “either a pull in the tights, a birthmark or a tattoo”.
I read that CB has scars on his right thigh. Interesting!

Where did you read this?

 

[Deleted member 268067]

Just saw this about Peggy Knobloch:

Verschwundene Peggy: Bisher keine Verbindung zu Christian B. und zum Fall Maddie

It's German, I can't translate all of it but the prosecutor says so far there is no link to CB, no personal, areal or temporal connection. If the translation makes sense, I'm not too bad at translating from English to German, but the other way around ...

Thank you. I’ve been wondering about this as I thought he was in Bavaria at this point.

Where did you read this?

It’s been in a few of the MSM reports. The Telegraph was one.

 

[Ardoch]

OMG!!!, this sounds exactly like him with the mark on his thigh!, and adds more weight when you consider the reports of 'exotic clothing' claimed to be found in his house with the videos.
The Guardian is a much more respectable news outlet too.

Can you remember where you heard about the mark on his thigh? Thanks

 

[Wowno17]

Can you remember where you heard about the mark on his thigh? Thanks

It's in here:

Rape victim asks Madeleine McCann detectives to review her case

ETA sorry I see you mean where it was originally said he had a mark on his thigh. I have seen it too so will try to find it.

 

[Deleted member 268067]

Can you remember where you heard about the mark on his thigh? Thanks

Telegraph. Hang on...

 

[Deleted member 268067]

Can you remember where you heard about the mark on his thigh? Thanks

““His face is pockmarked, he has nicotine-stained teeth and chewed fingernails,” claimed the newspaper, “He has scars on his right leg (both thigh and hip), and birthmarks all over his body.” He spoke Portuguese and Franconian, a northern Bavarian dialect of German, said the newspaper.”

Link: Christian Brückner: Everything we know about the new German Madeleine McCann suspect

 

[Miya]

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I have no German however according to Google Translate it's referring to the Peggy case as CB having no link too. But that could be lost in translation

Yeah, my first language is German, that's why it's easier for me to translate from English to German than the other way around, lol. And yes, the prosecutor says so far they don't see a connection.

 

[Ardoch]

I hope the mention of a mark on the assailants thigh is in her original statement. Although going by her experience with the police at the time......?

 

[Kiranerys]

I hope the mention of a mark on the assailants thigh is in her original statement. Although going by her experience with the police at the time......?

It sounds like that is what she told them,but it's hard to be sure from the article. I do know that the Guardian dont tend to publish unless they have all their ducks in a row so I took it as her describing her original police statement, I do think that the police may have the video footage he made of her attack, I really hope so!

 

[Kikixxxx]

“Unfortunately I find the Portuguese system very corrupt. The ones that I met basically came to me saying that I was a holiday rep, implying it comes with the territory.”

“They asked, ‘What was I wearing, was I very drunk, did I invite someone into my room?’ The only person who showed me care or compassion was the gynaecologist in the hospital.”

Tubridy floored by ‘bravery’ of woman sharing her harrowing rape ordeal live on air

i just don't understand how a first world country can have such a useless, incompetent police force? its terrible.
if they'd have done their job in the first place, the 72 pensioner and maddie would never have encountered this man. it makes me so angry!

 

[Bit of hope]

This is an article from Tagesschau about CB, a German national and international television news service produced by the editorial staff of ARD-aktuell on behalf of the German public-service. So a little more serious then all the stuff published in the popular tabloids at the moment. Lots of questions answered, details about the so called beam, the videocamera "incident"and the rape of the elderly American lady.

Verdächtiger im "Fall Maddie": Lange kriminelle Karriere

A German is suspected of having killed the British girl Madeleine. The 43-year-old has a long criminal history: from theft, drug trafficking to child abuse and rape.

Christian B. is in custody in the Kiel correctional facility. The Braunschweig Regional Court sentenced him to seven years in prison in December 2019 - for serious rape in conjunction with predatory extortion. The 43-year-old German is now considered a suspect in the Madeleine McCann case. The three-year-old girl disappeared from a hotel complex in Portugal in 2007.

Christian B. had often come into conflict with the law. There are 17 entries in the official criminal record - from theft, forgery of documents, drug trafficking, resistance to law enforcement officers, violation of the weapons law, child abuse and rape.

The BKA <Bundes Kriminal Amt> had already received its first references to Christian B. in 2013 when the "Maddie case" in "Aktenzeichen XY ungelöst" <a serious tv programm, working on cases together with the police> was the subject of discussion. Then more information came together. So far, there is no real proof that B. is responsible for the disappearance of the British girl.

Criminal from an early age
Christian B. was born in Bavaria in 1977 and grew up in a children's home. <additional info is that he was adopted, but was a troubeling child> He later attended secondary school and began an apprenticeship as a car mechanic. In 1993, he was sentenced to eight months suspended probation by the Würzburg District Court for multiple theft and driving without a license. Just a year later, B. was again on trial in Würzburg, this time for the sexual abuse of a child. He was given a two-year suspended sentence.

Possibly in order to avoid punishment, Christian B. broke off his education in 1995 and moved to Lagos in southern Portugal with his girlfriend <I don't know who this was, but it was not NM, who he met around 2012> at the time. Both were probably doing odd jobs there, they are said to have found advertisers for German newspapers. B. is said to have worked as a fitter for a sales company for awnings and swimming pool covers and finally founded his own company with friends. At that time B. and his girlfriend are said to have moved to a house on the outskirts of Praia da Luz <I would like to know who she was)

Transferred to Germany
At the end of the 1990s, B. was arrested in Portugal and transferred to Germany for the execution of the youth sentence for child abuse. He served the sentence and moved back to Praia da Luz in late 2000. B. is said to have lost his job in the meantime and has again pursued various activities: advertising acquisition for British newspapers, waiters in a hotel in Lagos, the sale of golf balls that he collected on golf courses.

In the meantime, he is also said to have operated a car dealership, stealing solar panels and diesel from parked trucks. B. is also said to have made a living through burglaries.

Evidence process due to violent break-in
On September 2, 2005, around 10:30 p.m., Christian B. is said to have entered the house of a 72-year-old American in Praia da Luz via the patio door. The later victim was watching television when he - masked with a balaclava <facemask> and armed with a scimitar <a large, curved butcher's knife>- first entered the living room and then the study, looking for valuables, the investigation says.

When the American <lady> noticed the burglar, B. is said to have grabbed her by the neck and dragged her hair up the stairs to the bedroom. B. is said to have tied the woman up with a rope, then gagged her and blindfolded her. Then he is said to have raped the woman and forced her to give him the money from the household budget - 80 to 100 euros.

B. still contests the deed. There will be an evidence process in December 2019 <Update needed) proces B.'s hair had been found in the victim's bedroom. If it was actually his hair, according to B. in the trial before the district court in Braunschweig, then it would have only ended up by accident. He once stroked the American's cat, maybe the hair had come to bed that way. B. has appealed against his conviction.

Supposedly videos of sexual violence against women
In December 2006, a Portuguese court sentenced B. to imprisonment after stealing diesel from a marina. When he was still in custody, two friends are said to have gone to his house in Praia da Luz to steal from him.

Later, the men reportedly told the police that they had also taken a video camera and numerous tapes with them. A video shows how B. raped an older woman. Another recording allegedly shows a young woman who was tied naked to a wooden beam in his house. It is said that it was these statements that finally put B. in the sights of the investigators in the "Maddie case".

Parole for drug trafficking
After his release from prison, B. moved to his then girlfriend in Dresden <Who is she?) for a few weeks, then to Augsburg and finally back to Portugal. It probably didn't last long there. B. went back to Germany, apparently lived in a mobile home in Hanover and worked in an auto repair shop. Together with a friend, he is said to have planned to smuggle drugs to Sylt in summer 2007. B. is said to have obtained several kilograms of marijuana and hashish from a <female> dealer in Oranienburg, Brandenburg.

In October 2011, the Niebüll district court sentenced B. to a prison term of one year and nine months for drug trafficking - initially on probation. The court attested to him a favorable social forecast at the time. According to the investigation-report, he lived in a "solid relationship with his fiancee" <Interesting, this must be NM>, and he also led a "self-determined life after his return from Portugal".

Only a short return to civil life
In Hanover, B. is said to have run a kiosk with his fiancee from December 2012 to mid-2014 <How long dit NM stayed with him...as it looks even after he attacked her and despite the childporn she found> Then he is said to have suffered a "burnout", became unemployed, moved to Hartz IV <unemployment benefits> then on and lived in an allotment garden in Braunschweig. The local public prosecutor's office soon investigated B. on suspicion of sexual abuse of a child. Before he was arrested, B. set off again for Portugal. An European arrest warrant was then issued against him.

In June 2017, the German was arrested in Portugal and extradited to Germany. He served a year and three months' imprisonment and then traveled to Italy in September 2018 - where he was arrested again. The suspension of the Niebüll district court for drug trafficking had been revoked, B. was brought back to Germany for enforcement of sentences

Release from judicial errors?
The fact that he was released again in 2018 could have been a mistake by the German judicial authorities, at least in April 2020 the Federal Court of Justice complained. Actually, the public prosecutor's office in Flensburg did not want to release Christian B. from prison in September 2018 - she wanted to keep him in prison because of the imprisoned sentence for drug trafficking on Sylt.

However, this required the consent of the Portuguese authorities - these had only been delivered to B. because of child abuse. However, since this request to Portugal was made late, Christian B. had to be released on 31 August 2018. He then traveled to Italy, where he was arrested again four weeks later. And now he faces the next charge.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

Do you mean recognise the similarities with the 2007 rape? It would not really be the Portuguese's fault as the 72 year old was raped as Bruckner wore a mask. Details only came to light years later when someone saw a video of the rape.
Lack of forensics is where you could criticise but there is often not much forensic evidence in rape cases, it's why so many rape cases are never prosecuted all over the world.

No the OP (I believe) is referring to the Irish woman who was raped and has come forward.

There was a link to it not long ago.

MOO

ETA link

Tubridy floored by ‘bravery’ of woman sharing her harrowing rape ordeal live on air

'If the woman can recognise items to be the same'. So that's the Irish woman recognising details of the other rape...which were only revealed when someone saw a video in 2017 So you can't really say the Portugues should have been aware of those details in 2005.

 

[Ardoch]

It sounds like that is what she told them,but it's hard to be sure from the article. I do know that the Guardian dont tend to publish unless they have all their ducks in a row so I took it as her describing her original police statement, I do think that the police may have the video footage he made of her attack, I really hope so!

I missed the bit about the video camera! Oh I hope she gets some answers!

 

[Bit of hope]

Breaking
Just like I suggested in #2. The The Hague police have announced to reinvestigate the missing case of the little 7 year old boy missing from Monster, The Netherlands in 1995; Jair Soares.

THE HAGUE - The police cold case team in The Hague is investigating whether Christian Brückner, the German man suspected of the murder of British toddler Maddie McCann in 2007, was behind the disappearance of Jaïr Soares (7) in Monster in 1995. Contact has now been made with the German police.

Politie Den Haag onderzoekt link Maddie-verdachte en verdwijning Jaïr Soares (7) in 1995

The Hague police confirm this after questions about this by De Telegraaf <a Dutch newspaper>. The disappearance of Jaïr on Monster beach in August 1995 is one of the biggest cold case mysteries in the Netherlands. In July last year, the police said in this newspaper that they strongly take into account that the boy from Rotterdam was taken by a teenager at the time, after which he may have been sexually abused and murdered.

As we all know in 1995 CB was a teenager (born in 1977 so approx 18 years old at the time).

Edited to add.

 

[rebel123]

I think they should get a list of his previous homes / details (once all the info comes in). Get the TV news to broadcast the news with all the locations / details in the prison, give a time - line account of each home. CB lived here between 2006 - 2007, with, alone etc.

Make sure he is watching it, but make sure a body language expert is watching him and it's taped (it would be in prisons). He would giveaway so much by his body language and reactions.

 

[Ardoch]

This is an article from Tagesschau about CB, a German national and international television news service produced by the editorial staff of ARD-aktuell on behalf of the German public-service. So a little more serious then all the stuff published in the popular tabloids at the moment.

Verdächtiger im "Fall Maddie": Lange kriminelle Karriere

A German is suspected of having killed the British girl Madeleine. The 43-year-old has a long criminal history: from theft, drug trafficking to child abuse and rape.

Christian B. is in custody in the Kiel correctional facility. The Braunschweig Regional Court sentenced him to seven years in prison in December 2019 - for serious rape in conjunction with predatory extortion. The 43-year-old German is now considered a suspect in the Madeleine McCann case. The three-year-old girl disappeared from a hotel complex in Portugal in 2007.

Christian B. had often come into conflict with the law. There are 17 entries in the official criminal record - from theft, forgery of documents, drug trafficking, resistance to law enforcement officers, violation of the weapons law, child abuse and rape.

The BKA <Bundes Kriminal Amt> had already received its first references to Christian B. in 2013 when the "Maddie case" in "Aktenzeichen XY ungelöst" <a serious tv programm, working on cases together with the police> was the subject of discussion. Then more information came together. So far, there is no real proof that B. is responsible for the disappearance of the British girl.

Criminal from an early age
Christian B. was born in Bavaria in 1977 and grew up in a children's home. <additional info is that he was adopted, but was a troubeling child> He later attended secondary school and began an apprenticeship as a car mechanic. In 1993, he was sentenced to eight months suspended probation by the Würzburg District Court for multiple theft and driving without a license. Just a year later, B. was again on trial in Würzburg, this time for the sexual abuse of a child. He was given a two-year suspended sentence.

Possibly in order to avoid punishment, Christian B. broke off his education in 1995 and moved to Lagos in southern Portugal with his girlfriend <I don't know who this was, but it was not NM, who he met around 2012> at the time. Both were probably doing odd jobs there, they are said to have found advertisers for German newspapers. B. is said to have worked as a fitter for a sales company for awnings and swimming pool covers and finally founded his own company with friends. At that time B. and his girlfriend are said to have moved to a house on the outskirts of Praia da Luz <I would like to know who she was)

Transferred to Germany
At the end of the 1990s, B. was arrested in Portugal and transferred to Germany for the execution of the youth sentence for child abuse. He served the sentence and moved back to Praia da Luz in late 2000. B. is said to have lost his job in the meantime and has again pursued various activities: advertising acquisition for British newspapers, waiters in a hotel in Lagos, the sale of golf balls that he collected on golf courses.

In the meantime, he is also said to have operated a car dealership, stealing solar panels and diesel from parked trucks. B. is also said to have made a living through burglaries.

Evidence process due to violent break-in
On September 2, 2005, around 10:30 p.m., Christian B. is said to have entered the house of a 72-year-old American in Praia da Luz via the patio door. The later victim was watching television when he - masked with a balaclava <facemask> and armed with a scimitar <a large, curved butcher's knife>- first entered the living room and then the study, looking for valuables, the investigation says.

When the American <lady> noticed the burglar, B. is said to have grabbed her by the neck and dragged her hair up the stairs to the bedroom. B. is said to have tied the woman up with a rope, then gagged her and blindfolded her. Then he is said to have raped the woman and forced her to give him the money from the household budget - 80 to 100 euros.

B. still contests the deed. There will be an evidence process in December 2019 <Update needed) proces B.'s hair had been found in the victim's bedroom. If it was actually his hair, according to B. in the trial before the district court in Braunschweig, then it would have only ended up by accident. He once stroked the American's cat, maybe the hair had come to bed that way. B. has appealed against his conviction.

Supposedly videos of sexual violence against women
In December 2006, a Portuguese court sentenced B. to imprisonment after stealing diesel from a marina. When he was still in custody, two friends are said to have gone to his house in Praia da Luz to steal from him.

Later, the men reportedly told the police that they had also taken a video camera and numerous tapes with them. A video shows how B. raped an older woman. Another recording allegedly shows a young woman who was tied naked to a wooden beam in his house. It is said that it was these statements that finally put B. in the sights of the investigators in the "Maddie case".

Parole for drug trafficking
After his release from prison, B. moved to his then girlfriend in Dresden <Who is she?) for a few weeks, then to Augsburg and finally back to Portugal. It probably didn't last long there. B. went back to Germany, apparently lived in a mobile home in Hanover and worked in an auto repair shop. Together with a friend, he is said to have planned to smuggle drugs to Sylt in summer 2007. B. is said to have obtained several kilograms of marijuana and hashish from a <female> dealer in Oranienburg, Brandenburg.

In October 2011, the Niebüll district court sentenced B. to a prison term of one year and nine months for drug trafficking - initially on probation. The court attested to him a favorable social forecast at the time. According to the investigation-report, he lived in a "solid relationship with his fiancee" <Interesting, this must be NM>, and he also led a "self-determined life after his return from Portugal".

Only a short return to civil life
In Hanover, B. is said to have run a kiosk with his fiancee from December 2012 to mid-2014 <How long dit NM stayed with him...as it looks even after he attacked her and despite the childporn she found> Then he is said to have suffered a "burnout", became unemployed, moved to Hartz IV <unemployment benefits> then on and lived in an allotment garden in Braunschweig. The local public prosecutor's office soon investigated B. on suspicion of sexual abuse of a child. Before he was arrested, B. set off again for Portugal. An European arrest warrant was then issued against him.

In June 2017, the German was arrested in Portugal and extradited to Germany. He served a year and three months' imprisonment and then traveled to Italy in September 2018 - where he was arrested again. The suspension of the Niebüll district court for drug trafficking had been revoked, B. was brought back to Germany for enforcement of sentences

Release from judicial errors?
The fact that he was released again in 2018 could have been a mistake by the German judicial authorities, at least in April 2020 the Federal Court of Justice complained. Actually, the public prosecutor's office in Flensburg did not want to release Christian B. from prison in September 2018 - she wanted to keep him in prison because of the imprisoned sentence for drug trafficking on Sylt.

However, this required the consent of the Portuguese authorities - these had only been delivered to B. because of child abuse. However, since this request to Portugal was made late, Christian B. had to be released on 31 August 2018. He then traveled to Italy, where he was arrested again four weeks later. And now he faces the next charge.

Wow.
I see a mention of a "facemask" and a "scimitar" used in the rape of the 72 year-old woman..... and videoed.
New info there ( to me) that he lived in Italy. I was wondering if he lived in other places apart from Portugal and Italy.
Edited : Portugal and Germany not "Portugal and Italy"

 

[Deleted member 268067]

I think the evidence that links the 72 year old and the Irish lady is huge. I really hope that was well recorded because this sounds very promising.