Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect #31

[Davieson]

Who do you want to pay attention to?

Amaral?

Almeida?

Grime?

None of the above.
How about waiting for official attributed statements from the German judiciary ?

 

[enquirer6]

My guess would be that Herr Wolters has proved, to his full satisfaction, that Brueckner was in the vicinity of the crime at the time the crime was committed, but he can't directly pin Brueckner to apartment 5a.

If that's right, then it would boil down to a question of whether you accord Brueckner technical benefit of the doubt that it is possible more than one person was in the vicinity with identical proclivities and leanings, and the other one, not him, took Madeleine.

Or whether you regard that as sufficiently compelling to convict.

 

[Anxala]

Some surmised Clarke of the Olive press had his ear .

If the case, I'd really question HCW's judgement if he's using JC as his mouthpiece. Surely he can't be that naive?

 

[Davieson]

I'm more than happy to go by the judgement of the court.
If Brueckner cannot be brought before a court because of lack of acceptable evidence, then that is how it will be.
From Wolters' latest statement he does not sound too confident.

 

[RichardKimble]

My guess would be that Herr Wolters has proved, to his full satisfaction, that Brueckner was in the vicinity of the crime at the time the crime was committed, but he can't directly pin Brueckner to apartment 5a.

If that's right, then it would boil down to a question of whether you accord Brueckner technical benefit of the doubt that it is possible more than one person was in the vicinity with identical proclivities and leanings, and the other one, not him, took Madeleine.

Or whether you regard that as sufficiently compelling to convict.

Wolters said to the camera on Ch5 back in May CB could not be placed in Luz on 3/05/2007 so that doesn't fit.

 

[enquirer6]

Wolters said to the camera on Ch5 back in May CB could not be placed in Luz on 3/05/2007 so that doesn't fit.

A lot can change in 4 months

 

[Davieson]

A lot can change in 4 months

Agreed, but will it?
Wolters' statement of only a few days ago was decidedly downbeat.

 

[RichardKimble]

A lot can change in 4 months

Indeed ,which Wolters latest shows with little chance of an indictment.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

My guess would be that Herr Wolters has proved, to his full satisfaction, that Brueckner was in the vicinity of the crime at the time the crime was committed, but he can't directly pin Brueckner to apartment 5a.

If that's right, then it would boil down to a question of whether you accord Brueckner technical benefit of the doubt that it is possible more than one person was in the vicinity with identical proclivities and leanings, and the other one, not him, took Madeleine.

Or whether you regard that as sufficiently compelling to convict.

So there has been RM who was an official and SM linked to him. Then the three burglars identified by OG from the phone records. Then there were 600 names of possible paedos in the files. Many names from Clement Freud to Martin Ney have been put forward.

Way more than reasonable doubt here. If you are saying it’s unlikely to be anyone else, I think FF would smash that argument easily.

 

[Ausgrlz]

Its never been clear to me why the German authorities got involved in this.
Is it routine procedure for them to investigate/prosecute their own nationals for crimes committed outside of Germany ?

The German police had CB under 24hr surveillance prior to his entering Italy. This suggests that he was on their radar and in an unusually high profile capacity, at least in terms of resourcing of officers.

 

[RichardKimble]

The German police had CB under 24hr surveillance prior to his entering Italy. This suggests that he was on their radar and in an unusually high profile capacity, at least in terms of resourcing of officers.

In relation to Madeleine or the crimes of the drug offences ?

 

[mrjitty]

If the case, I'd really question HCW's judgement if he's using JC as his mouthpiece. Surely he can't be that naive?

I am still wondering why JC had that 'exclusive' about extradition that no other media org has reported.

 

[enquirer6]

I am still wondering why JC had that 'exclusive' about extradition that no other media org has reported.

The evidence linking Christian Brueckner to Madeleine McCann's disappearance

As the 44-year-old German is named an official suspect, we look at all the previous evidence against him

www.telegraph.co.uk

"Police finally caught up with Brueckner for the 2005 rape in 2018, arresting him in Italy for skipping parole and extraditing him to Germany to face trial. He was sentenced at the end of 2019 to seven years in jail."

My formatting tools (yet again!) turned off.

 

[mrjitty]

If the case, how mortifying.

I do still find it hard to believe that a professional police force - a 1st world one at that, with every sophisticated crime-solving technology at its disposal - would embark on such a controversial, high profile 'publicity campaign' without being absolutely sure, regardless of what (if any) additional evidence was generated by their appeal, that what they had in hand was always going to be good enough to result in a charge. That was always how HCW framed things, that CB was always a done deal as far as MM is concerned.

But, as you suggest, in the absence of anything else to explain the current bewildering state of play, I guess your theory has to be considered as a mortifying possibility.

There is a case in No Stone Unturned about Necrosearch and no body murders which might be analogous.

A waitress and mother, was murdered by her drug dealer for business reasons. Police knew he did it, and later a rat associate confirmed this - but they couldn't prove it... they couldn't get an incriminating conversation on a wire, so essentially proof of the murder required the body. They even knew the body had been dumped in water, and had searched many quarries without luck.

Many years later they tumbled on a different witness, who was able to tell them that her body was in the boot of a car which had been driven into a big river.

I wonder if this case is not similar. They believe CB did it, because he told one or more people. But they don't have it on a wire so he will just deny that, and his crooked mates are hardly great witnesses. They have other indications of guilt which have checked out, and support their theory. Stuff like the jag licensing.

What they don't have, is anything definitively linking him to the murder. This might be why the judicial process allowed the public appeal, believing that asking the right questions would resolve the case.

My 02c is they need the body, and this is why they are 'in no hurry' - in other words, no body prosecutions are extremely difficult.

 

[mrjitty]

The evidence linking Christian Brueckner to Madeleine McCann's disappearance

As the 44-year-old German is named an official suspect, we look at all the previous evidence against him

www.telegraph.co.uk

"Police finally caught up with Brueckner for the 2005 rape in 2018, arresting him in Italy for skipping parole and extraditing him to Germany to face trial. He was sentenced at the end of 2019 to seven years in jail."

My formatting tools (yet again!) turned off.

That is the previous extradition

 

[RichardKimble]

The German police had CB under 24hr surveillance prior to his entering Italy. This suggests that he was on their radar and in an unusually high profile capacity, at least in terms of resourcing of officers.

They weren't very good then, because he skipped parole and fled to Italy according to this, posted by enquirer6.

Police finally caught up with Brueckner for the 2005 rape in 2018, arresting him in Italy for skipping parole and extraditing him to Germany to face trial. He was sentenced at the end of 2019 to seven years in jail.

The evidence linking Christian Brueckner to Madeleine McCann's disappearance

As the 44-year-old German is named an official suspect, we look at all the previous evidence against him

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[enquirer6]

So there has been RM who was an official and SM linked to him. Then the three burglars identified by OG from the phone records. Then there were 600 names of possible paedos in the files. Many names from Clement Freud to Martin Ney have been put forward.

Way more than reasonable doubt here. If you are saying it’s unlikely to be anyone else, I think FF would smash that argument easily.

Maddie McCann suspect Christian Brueckner faces new sex assault charges in weeks

Hans Christian Wolters, heading the inquiry into Madeleine McCann's disappearance, told the Sunday Mirror he will go on TV with a crucial development on the Brueckner file before the end of the month

www.mirror.co.uk

Sic:

Mr Wolters has named the paedophile as the only suspect over Maddie.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Maddie McCann suspect Christian Brueckner faces new sex assault charges in weeks

Hans Christian Wolters, heading the inquiry into Madeleine McCann's disappearance, told the Sunday Mirror he will go on TV with a crucial development on the Brueckner file before the end of the month

www.mirror.co.uk

Sic:

Mr Wolters has named the paedophile as the only suspect over Maddie.

Well if that’s who he’s named, it can’t be anyone else. Now he only has the small matter of proving and prosecuting it.

It doesn’t matter what he’s said, he is unreliable. IMO, there are other suspects.

 

[Sharkbite]

Hi all, hope you are keeping well

I noticed that last week that MWT tweeted this

"and next week my 3 part #MadeleineMcCann programme will be released."

This is now listed on C5 with a runtime of 90 minutes My5 , the earlier release back in May was only about an hour I think. Has anyone viewed this 'extended' version that could fill us in what was left out of the May release.

I remember MWT was setting up for an interview in a pub in Linden, Hanover, but I don't recall seeing that interview when this was originally released.

 

[Trivento]

Hi all, hope you are keeping well

I noticed that last week that MWT tweeted this

"and next week my 3 part #MadeleineMcCann programme will be released."

This is now listed on C5 with a runtime of 90 minutes My5 , the earlier release back in May was only about an hour I think. Has anyone viewed this 'extended' version that could fill us in what was left out of the May release.

I remember MWT was setting up for an interview in a pub in Linden, Hanover, but I don't recall seeing that interview when this was originally released.

Hi ... I recorded the show in May and it was already about 90 mins..

According this link original release was supposed to be double this ( 3*60) but was shortened..

Madeleine McCann: The Prime Suspect - Drive TV

Madeleine McCann disappeared in 2007 on a family holiday in Portugal and her case is still unsolved and is arguably the most high-profile missing persons case of the last 25 years.

www.drive-tv.co.uk

Think I saw on MWT twitter something about it being released on Paramount + ... next week perhaps ...maybe that will be longer version ? ..Not sure though...