Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect #31

[G-Unit]

As I understand its a newspaper report.

We don't know how accurate it is

What other sources are there?

 

[Davieson]

What other sources are there?

If you are only going to accept the spoken word, then you won't be accepting very much
And even then some of it is going to be suspect.

 

[Anxala]

If you are only going to accept the spoken word, then you won't be accepting very much
And even then some of it is going to be suspect.

UK journalistic codes of practice have strict rules when it comes to direct quotes. It applies across the board, including even the most notorious of UK tabloids. Direct quotes represent the spoken words.

I think we can say with confidence that whenever HCW's comments have appeared in direct quotes, we are hearing the direct and actual words of HCW.

 

[G-Unit]

If you are only going to accept the spoken word, then you won't be accepting very much
And even then some of it is going to be suspect.

Very true. The only sources I can think of is the MSM and a few videos.

 

[Dave55]

If you are only going to accept the spoken word, then you won't be accepting very much
And even then some of it is going to be suspect.

The spoken word

Very true. The only sources I can think of is the MSM and a few videos.

You need to get up to speed with the facts in the case if you think there are only a few videos where Wolters speaks... You seem woefully misinformed

 

[Dave55]

UK journalistic codes of practice have strict rules when it comes to direct quotes. It applies across the board, including even the most notorious of UK tabloids. Direct quotes represent the spoken words.

I think we can say with confidence that whenever HCW's comments have appeared in direct quotes, we are hearing the direct and actual words of HCW.

I was quoted in the Sun some years ago... And it certainly wasn't verbatim.

You say these must be Wolters actual words... So did he speak in English

 

[Dave55]

This is a supposed quote from Colin Sutton..
Asked to clarify what he meant, he added: 'The Scotland Yard investigation was going to be very narrowly focused and that focus would be away from any suspicion of wrongdoing on the part of the McCanns or the tapas friends.'

If you read his blog he talks about the totality of the advice ne received on the case... And it does not include this.. So who is being dishonest..

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I was quoted in the Sun some years ago... And it certainly wasn't verbatim.

You say these must be Wolters actual words... So did he speak in English

The original source is The Mirror (HCW’s preferred channel), The Mail and others provide the attribution. The quote is not from “… some years ago”, it’s from last month - September 4 2022. See articles below.

Based on what he has said I think its highly likely he has a photo.. Video

To apply the standards you claim in your prior posts, can you please provide a link to a video which shows HCW saying that he has a photo or video? Or at the very least, a link to a video of HCW accompanied by your explanation of how you come to the above conclusion - I really would like to see the proof of your claim “Based on what he has said”, actual video proof.

If you are not letting your personal biases get in the way of facts and you are capable of meeting your own standards, you should have no problem with the above request.

Maddie McCann suspect Christian Brueckner faces new sex assault charges in weeks

Hans Christian Wolters, heading the inquiry into Madeleine McCann's disappearance, told the Sunday Mirror he will go on TV with a crucial development on the Brueckner file before the end of the month

www.mirror.co.uk

Madeleine McCann suspect 'will face fresh sex assault charges'

Brueckner, 45, was named by police as the prime suspect in the toddler's disappearance in the hopes that it would lead them to evidence that would allow them to formally charge him.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Brueckner has a string of criminal convictions including, most recently, and on DNA evidence, of the rape of an American woman for rape. He, also, has a profile that exactly matches that of someone capable of whatever befell Madeleine.

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Neither pre nor post May 3 2007 has CB had any convictions or been to trial for abduction or murder.

I am not defending CB, he is a despicable human being based on what we know for certain but re the bold, I think that is what you believe, not what his history shows.

 

[Dave55]

The original source is The Mirror (HCW’s preferred channel), The Mail and others provide the attribution. The quote is not from “… some years ago”, it’s from last month - September 4 2022. See articles below.


To apply the standards you claim in your prior posts, can you please provide a link to a video which shows HCW saying that he has a photo or video? Or at the very least, a link to a video of HCW accompanied by your explanation of how you come to the above conclusion - I really would like to see the proof of your claim “Based on what he has said”, actual video proof.

If you are not letting your personal biases get in the way of facts and you are capable of meeting your own standards, you should have no problem with the above request.

Maddie McCann suspect Christian Brueckner faces new sex assault charges in weeks

Hans Christian Wolters, heading the inquiry into Madeleine McCann's disappearance, told the Sunday Mirror he will go on TV with a crucial development on the Brueckner file before the end of the month

www.mirror.co.uk

Madeleine McCann suspect 'will face fresh sex assault charges'

Brueckner, 45, was named by police as the prime suspect in the toddler's disappearance in the hopes that it would lead them to evidence that would allow them to formally charge him.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Dave55]

When I say highly likely its clear I don't have proof. I think its reasonable to question newspaper claims.. Do you have proof these are Wolters exact words... Do you know in what context the alleged statement was made.
I'm confident in my ability to assess the evidence and have no need to justify anything to an anonymous poster on the net

 

[Hygge]

The last Mirror article is from Patrick Hill, he was already wrong in saying Wolters claimed Madeleine could be alive which he never said.
So I don’t trust his articles

 

[Denis R Tandib]

When I say highly likely its clear I don't have proof. I think its reasonable to question newspaper claims.. Do you have proof these are Wolters exact words... Do you know in what context the alleged statement was made.
I'm confident in my ability to assess the evidence and have no need to justify anything to an anonymous poster on the net

Just to get things clear then:

1. The only evidence you accept is the spoken word;
2. You cannot cite one single link of a video that provides any of your evidence to support a claim you have made.

We have to conclude that you have no evidence in your preferred format to assess (whether you’re good at assessing it or not).

What you have is an opinion which cannot be substantiated, in any way, by your measure of acceptable evidence.

And unfortunately, you know what they say about opinions…

 

[Denis R Tandib]

The last Mirror article is from Patrick Hill, he was already wrong in saying Wolters claimed Madeleine could be alive which he never said.
So I don’t trust his articles

That’s okay. I don’t think anyone is saying that everything we read in the paper is correct. However, in lieu of anything else, direct quotes are the best information we have to go on.

 

[RichardKimble]

The last Mirror article is from Patrick Hill, he was already wrong in saying Wolters claimed Madeleine could be alive which he never said.
So I don’t trust his articles

“Because there is no forensic evidence there may be a little bit of hope (that she is alive),”

Madeleine McCann may be alive says prosecutor who said she was dead

"We don’t want to kill the hope and because there is no forensic evidence it may be theoretically possible."

www.walesonline.co.uk

 

[Dave55]

That’s okay. I don’t think anyone is saying that everything we read in the paper is correct. However, in lieu of anything else, direct quotes are the best information we have to go on.

No... The best we have to go on is televised interviews

 

[Denis R Tandib]

No... The best we have to go on is televised interviews

And the last one was when?

Honestly, let’s drop it with the tit-for-tat, boring for everyone else.

Provide sources for your claims or make sure you state them as opinions - these are the forum rules.

 

[Dave55]

Just to get things clear then:

1. The only evidence you accept is the spoken word;
2. You cannot cite one single link of a video that provides any of your evidence to support a claim you have made.

We have to conclude that you have no evidence in your preferred format to assess (whether you’re good at assessing it or not).

What you have is an opinion which cannot be substantiated, in any way, by your measure of acceptable evidence.

And unfortunately, you know what they say about opinions…

Wrong on both points...
I treat newspaper articles with caution

I certainly can supply actual links to live footage of Wolters statements that support my opinion. Why should I do that for a random stranger on the net

You should not belittle opinion.... Most court verdicts are opinion

 

[Dave55]

And the last one was when?

Honestly, let’s drop it with the tit-for-tat, boring for everyone else.

Provide sources for your claims or make sure you state them as opinions - these are the forum rules.

This is what I posted




Based on what he has said I think its highly likely he has a photo.. Video



Its clear that's opinion..

You've spent a day arguing under a misapprehension...

 

[Denis R Tandib]

This is what I posted




Based on what he has said I think its highly likely he has a photo.. Video



Its clear that's opinion..

You've spent a day arguing under a misapprehension...

Even I’m bored now.

Either provide a link or accept that your arguments have no credibility.