Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect #31

[Sharkbite]

Do you know that MT was at the DF?

Do you have a reference for the MT statement? Might just be that he was asked when he saw CB after Mm’s disappearance vs after they left prison?

From JC's interview with MT

EXCLUSIVE: Former friend of Maddie suspect Christian B spent months with him in Spain's Andalucia and believes he's guilty - Olive Press News Spain

A DANGEROUS paedophile linked to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann spent long periods of time in southern Spain, the Olive Press can reveal. Convicted

www.theolivepress.es

 

[SuperdadV8]

From JC's interview with MT

EXCLUSIVE: Former friend of Maddie suspect Christian B spent months with him in Spain's Andalucia and believes he's guilty - Olive Press News Spain

A DANGEROUS paedophile linked to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann spent long periods of time in southern Spain, the Olive Press can reveal. Convicted

www.theolivepress.es

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That would mean, that he had the capability to afford the Tiffin Allegro between march and june 2007.

Something must have happened in that period of time. That could point out to a job and not a chance find, in relation to MM as well....

 

[JB1510]

From the 30 sec mark.

Credit @Carly@lul for finding this clip.

Thanks for sharing and a great find from @Carly@lul

 

[Trivento]

From JC's interview with MT

EXCLUSIVE: Former friend of Maddie suspect Christian B spent months with him in Spain's Andalucia and believes he's guilty - Olive Press News Spain

A DANGEROUS paedophile linked to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann spent long periods of time in southern Spain, the Olive Press can reveal. Convicted

www.theolivepress.es

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“The Dragon Festival was fun and the next time I saw him was in late May or early June 2007"

This part is a little bit ambiguous imo...

Is he saying they both ( MT and CB ) had fun at DF in March and next time MT saw CB was May /June 2007 ( next...after March ? ) ...or is it " next " after the prison time 2006 / or the February 2007 period MT mentions in same article..?

 

[Sharkbite]

“The Dragon Festival was fun and the next time I saw him was in late May or early June 2007"

This part is a little bit ambiguous imo...

Is he saying they both ( MT and CB ) had fun at DF in March and next time MT saw CB was May /June 2007 ( next...after March ? ) ...or is it " next " after the prison time 2006 etc..?

The full article gives the impression that MT left CB in the PDL area after meeting up with him in Jan/Feb 2007

 

[Anxala]

That’s okay. I don’t think anyone is saying that everything we read in the paper is correct. However, in lieu of anything else, direct quotes are the best information we have to go on.

^ Agree.

Somewhere on this thread (the earlier part, I think), there's an interview/article(? I can't remember which but I know I and others commented upon it) where HCW complains about his comments being 'misrepresented'. He doesn't deny his comments or the quotes attributed to him, just the manner in which they, according to him, have been taken for a wild tabloid ride. He seemed to be placing the blame on the media - the same media he regularly gives not just quotes but exclusives to! - rather than taking any responsibility for the many vague, ambiguous and downright contradictory things he himself, over time, has said that have generated the alleged flights of fancy he's complaining about.

 

[JB1510]

“The Dragon Festival was fun and the next time I saw him was in late May or early June 2007"

This part is a little bit ambiguous imo...

Is he saying they both ( MT and CB ) had fun at DF in March and next time MT saw CB was May /June 2007 ( next...after March ? ) ...or is it " next " after the prison time 2006 etc..?

The full article gives the impression that MT left CB in the PDL area after meeting up with him in Jan/Feb 2007

I was just thinking the same ,

From JC interview

MT went back to Austria for Christmas 2006 returning in Feb 2007 he met up with CB and told him he was going straight to Spain to skip his fine and told CB where he would be staying .Dragon was fun …….

Sounds like he saw him in Feb, March & May/June . The useful
video clip just shared confirms he was there and with MT and
reads a bit clearer now .

 

[Dave55]

The suspicions are more than my opinion, documentaries and books have been written about them.

Frankly, and this is my opinion, this response is a bit troll-like - you’re not doing yourself any favours. Perhaps take a break from the internet for a while.

Its not troll like at all... I asked a simple question... Documentaries and books by whom. I don't see any of their behaviour as suspicious

 

[JB1510]

^ Agree.

Somewhere on this thread (the earlier part, I think), there's an interview/article(? I can't remember which but I know I and others commented upon it) where HCW complains about his comments being 'misrepresented'. He doesn't deny his comments or the quotes attributed to him, just the manner in which they, according to him, have been taken for a wild tabloid ride. He seemed to be placing the blame on the media - the same media he regularly gives not just quotes but exclusives to! - rather than taking any responsibility for the many vague, ambiguous and downright contradictory things he himself, over time, has said that have generated the alleged flights of fancy he's complaining about

I think the “misrepresented” part comes from solely from the interview with SF which suddenly became pyjama fibres found in his van when picked up by the press .

Madeleine McCann: ‘new evidence’ linked to suspect found, prosecutor says

German prosecutor says investigators are sure Christian Brückner killed three-year-old and have ‘new facts’

www.theguardian.com

Madeleine McCann cops 'find new evidence' in suspect Christian B's van

MADELEINE McCann investigators last night claimed they have found evidence in the camper van of prime suspect Christian B — amid speculation it is tell-tale fibres from her pink Eeyore pyjamas. Par…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[Anxala]

I think the “misrepresented” part comes from solely from the interview with SF which suddenly became pyjama fibres found in his van when picked up by the press .

Madeleine McCann: ‘new evidence’ linked to suspect found, prosecutor says

German prosecutor says investigators are sure Christian Brückner killed three-year-old and have ‘new facts’

www.theguardian.com

Madeleine McCann cops 'find new evidence' in suspect Christian B's van

MADELEINE McCann investigators last night claimed they have found evidence in the camper van of prime suspect Christian B — amid speculation it is tell-tale fibres from her pink Eeyore pyjamas. Par…

www.thesun.co.uk

No, nothing to do with the above and/or pyjama fibres, as I recall. If I find time, I'll have a search through my own history and post what I'm referring to.

 

[JB1510]

No, nothing to do with the above and/or pyjama fibres, as I recall. If I find time, I'll have a search through my own history and post what I'm referring to.

No worries, he’s not said much a lot is reiteration but he is
convinced CB killed MM .The other possible spin on his direct quotes may have come from the MWT documentary.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I don't think it's your place to tell Wolters what he should do. It's clear FF has been given the evidence file for the Behan case... Just need to wait and see what Wolters says next.
Remember it was the Germans who solved the American rape case based on info from the same person who's given info in the MM. That gives the witness a degree of reliability

Are you referring to HB (Helge B…) here? He’s a convicted people smuggler.

The very important difference between the MM case and the DM case is that the prosecutors had forensic evidence placing CB at the scene of the crime in the latter.

The Germans had a suspect, possibly named by Helge B (not sure this has been reported but I would welcome a reference) which they were able to confirm with forensics.

In relation to the MM case, we have heard what HCW has said and it’s that there is no end in sight and an indictment may not come.

It’s very simple if he can support the claim that he knows CB killed MM he should charge him with her murder… why wait, his case doesn’t seem to be getting any stronger despite the all the time the investigation is taking.

 

[C.greek]

Are you referring to HB (Helge B…) here? He’s a convicted people smuggler.

The very important difference between the MM case and the DM case is that the prosecutors had forensic evidence placing CB at the scene of the crime in the latter.

The Germans had a suspect, possibly named by Helge B (not sure this has been reported but I would welcome a reference) which they were able to confirm with forensics.

In relation to the MM case, we have heard what HCW has said and it’s that there is no end in sight and an indictment may not come.

It’s very simple if he can support the claim that he knows CB killed MM he should charge him with her murder… why wait, his case doesn’t seem to be getting any stronger despite the all the time the investigation is taking.

There are many reasons why they are not charging, none of which mean they don't have evidence. 1. CB is going nowhere for the foreseeable - he does not pose a threat to society. 2. Double jeopardy rule in Germany which means the same person cannot be charged twice for the same crime and based on 1 above why risk it?. 3. The 2 year pandemic certainly slowed things down. And imo: 4. They might await to find the body 5. They are strategically bringing in other cases before to try their evidence (and witness testmonies). 6. We don't know if any the relation with the boystown trial.

Just because we are impatient, that does not mean they should hurry bringing in charges. We also have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.
Just because we are not privy to any of the evidence, similarly that does not mean they don't have any!
Jmo

 

[Denis R Tandib]

There are many reasons why they are not charging, none of which mean they don't have evidence. 1. CB is going nowhere for the foreseeable - he does not pose a threat to society. 2. Double jeopardy rule in Germany which means the same person cannot be charged twice for the same crime and based on 1 above why risk it?. 3. The 2 year pandemic certainly slowed things down. And imo: 4. They might await to find the body 5. They are strategically bringing in other cases before to try their evidence (and witness testmonies). 6. We don't know if any the relation with the boystown trial.

Just because we are impatient, that does not mean they should hurry bringing in charges. We also have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.
Just because we are not privy to any of the evidence, similarly that does not mean they don't have any!
Jmo

Lack of real information inevitably causes people to form there own views on the snippets and the actions of HCW - some see his apparent lack of progress and conflicting updates as signs of strategic execution. I don’t. I think that what we’re hearing in the media reflects problems.

I disagree that my views show impatience. Sensational claims were made by HCW over two years ago and he has claimed he has enough evidence to charge for a year. Nevertheless, there is no charge.

If you think about your six points. Kindly, 1 to 3 are irreverent if he had the evidence to charge in October 21. Point 4, while also unnecessary, would certainly strengthen the case but there is no signs of them even searching, it may never be found. Number 5 is yet to be seen, it’s another example of HCW providing a timeline and not meeting it. Number 6, is there really a source that provides good reason for us to believe it has any link to MM… any statement from anyone within German LE?

Let’s hope that HCW and the BKA really do have the goods on CB. It really is the worst outcome if the German investigation ends up being shelved.

 

[Dave55]

“The Dragon Festival was fun and the next time I saw him was in late May or early June 2007"

This part is a little bit ambiguous imo...

Is he saying they both ( MT and CB ) had fun at DF in March and next time MT saw CB was May /June 2007 ( next...after March ? ) ...or is it " next " after the prison time 2006 / or the February 2007 period MT mentions in same article..?

Are you referring to HB (Helge B…) here? He’s a convicted people smuggler.

The very important difference between the MM case and the DM case is that the prosecutors had forensic evidence placing CB at the scene of the crime in the latter.

The Germans had a suspect, possibly named by Helge B (not sure this has been reported but I would welcome a reference) which they were able to confirm with forensics.

In relation to the MM case, we have heard what HCW has said and it’s that there is no end in sight and an indictment may not come.

It’s very simple if he can support the claim that he knows CB killed MM he should charge him with her murder… why wait, his case doesn’t seem to be getting any stronger despite the all the time the investigation is taking.

HB supplied evidence... Much more than just a name... Im the rape case. Evidence that was instrumental in solving the crime. That gives him a degree of reliability. From what Wolters has said there are very good reasons why he is not charging yet. I think its premature to write Wolters off.

 

[G-Unit]

Lack of real information inevitably causes people to form there own views on the snippets and the actions of HCW - some see his apparent lack of progress and conflicting updates as signs of strategic execution. I don’t. I think that what we’re hearing in the media reflects problems.

I disagree that my views show impatience. Sensational claims were made by HCW over two years ago and he has claimed he has enough evidence to charge for a year. Nevertheless, there is no charge.

If you think about your six points. Kindly, 1 to 3 are irreverent if he had the evidence to charge in October 21. Point 4, while also unnecessary, would certainly strengthen the case but there is no signs of them even searching, it may never be found. Number 5 is yet to be seen, it’s another example of HCW providing a timeline and not meeting it. Number 6, is there really a source that provides good reason for us to believe it has any link to MM… any statement from anyone within German LE?

Let’s hope that HCW and the BKA really do have the goods on CB. It really is the worst outcome if the German investigation ends up being shelved.

If the German investigation doesn't result in a charge and a conviction it could be because they have the wrong man in their sights.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

HB supplied evidence... Much more than just a name... Im the rape case. Evidence that was instrumental in solving the crime. That gives him a degree of reliability. From what Wolters has said there are very good reasons why he is not charging yet. I think its premature to write Wolters off.

Reference?

 

[Denis R Tandib]

If the German investigation doesn't result in a charge and a conviction it could be because they have the wrong man in their sights.

Three options:

1. Right guy and gets found guilty at trial;
2. Right guy, not enough evidence to convict;
3. Wrong guy.

Any could end but being the outcome but as my prior post, I think 2 or 3 are much more likely than 1.

From your posts, it looks like you think it’s 3. If this is the case, do you have anything to add as to why?

 

[Dave55]

Reference?

AS its important I will see if I can find it.
When he broke into CBs house he found a video of the rape of the american. Based on his detailed desription the PJ trawled through unsolved rapes and found one that matched precisely. A pubic hair was found at that rape scene which was a match to CB. Pretty impressive evidence.

According to H behann the details match her rape. Wolters ...as I recall...has intimated there is a connection from the Behan rape to the MM case. Could it be they have a video of abuse of MM that matches both the rapes.

You still havent told us what you regard as the McCannns suspicious behavour...and the books and videos taht have highlighted it. I dont see any suspicious behaviour from them at all

 

[Dave55]

Three options:

1. Right guy and gets found guilty at trial;
2. Right guy, not enough evidence to convict;
3. Wrong guy.

Any could end but being the outcome but as my prior post, I think 2 or 3 are much more likely than 1.

From your posts, it looks like you think it’s 3. If this is the case, do you have anything to add as to why?