Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #33

[Davieson]

Thinking about a few recent comments, there are consistencies between the DM, HB and perhaps the two video recorded rapes found by HB and MS. All four were in fact video recorded which suggests it was something CB did when committing these offences i.e. all the rapes we know of were recorded.

It was suggested up-thread that there were possibly more rapes which does seem likely as all four of the known offences could have happened within a couple of years.

Given CB has been charged for the two video recorded rapes without a dates or identified victims, is there any possibility that if HCW had more images/footage of rapes he would not have charged CB at this time? In other words, if he had similar offences on video, would he definitely be charging CB now even if there were no victims?

I am looking at the possibility of the MM photo evidence. We know that CB has likely committed at least four rapes, all recorded. IMO, it’s likely that if he had saved images/footage of himself committing offences amongst the 8,000 files at the box factory, some of these would be rapes - does that logic follow?

But, he has not been charged for any offences other than the ones above, all of which were uncovered by German LE through witness statements and cold case requests from Portugal.

Therefore, can we conclude that there were no videos/images of CB committing rapes found at the box factory?

If so, does this reduce the possibility that CB saved and buried any videos or images MM at the box factory?

I get a little forgetful at times. Does Wolters actually have these tapes or just statements about their content ?

 

[Davieson]

I think he’s saying that in that scenario, they would have to be questioned under caution by the Portuguese. What I can’t understand though is what would happen if OG identified another British suspect?

Understood, but how does that fit with " investigating as if the abduction had happened in UK", where there presumably would be no such restriction ?

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I get a little confused at times. Does Wolters actually have these tapes or just statements about their content ?

I’ve asked the same question previously and the consensus was that he believes the DM and HB offences were recorded from the victim statements and the other two he knows existed from HB and MS statements and the consistency of what happened across all four offences.

Therefore, he has no actual video evidence of these offences and while I sure it would be useful, I don’t think he needs it.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Understood, but how does that fit with " investigating as if the abduction had happened in UK", where there presumably would be no such restriction ?

I just don’t know. I inferred that to be the same quality of investigation but I could be wrong.

 

[Dave55]

I can

So if hypothetically, police had evidence of MM being killed/disposed of by her parents, they couldn't question them under caution ? Is that what you are saying ?

They could. ...if thats what the police suspected ...and had evidence to support the claim

 

[Dave55]

I think he’s saying that in that scenario, they would have to be questioned under caution by the Portuguese. What I can’t understand though is what would happen if OG identified another British suspect?

they could investigate a british national if they suspected homicide or sexual abuse.the point im making is that Grange was limited in what it could investigate, not because the mccanns were being protected but because of the law. Sutton didnt seem to realise this

 

[Davieson]

they could investigate a british national if they suspected homicide or sexual abuse.the point im making is that Grange was limited in what it could investigate, not because the mccanns were being protected but because of the law. Sutton didnt seem to realise this

So what couldn't OG investigate ?

 

[Dave55]

So what couldn't OG investigate ?

Amarals theory

 

[Davieson]

Amarals theory

Is this because of the stranger abduction remit ?

 

[RichardKimble]

I get a little forgetful at times. Does Wolters actually have these tapes or just statements about their content ?

I think the range of years for the alleged rapes of the older woman and young girl show there are no tapes, else they'd harvest data to determine a year.

 

[RichardKimble]

Is this because of the stranger abduction remit ?

Think you're being played here.

 

[Davieson]

Think you're being played here.

I reckon its all a game really, though with CB in the frame its now more of a blood sport

 

[RichardKimble]

The forensics were botched in the MM case

Madeleine: How the police ruined the forensic evidence in her bedroom

Poice searching for Madeleine McCann allowed potentially crucial clues from her bed to be destroyed, it emerged yesterday.

www.standard.co.uk

But despite that hers is till very much a live case being actively investigated as is CB's association with it.

Still doesn't explain how there is no evidence of any one opening the shutter and window, this is how the supposed abductor exited 5a, ask Mitchell.

 

[Davieson]

Still doesn't explain how there is no evidence of any one opening the shutter and window, this is how the supposed abductor exited 5a, ask Mitchell.

He doesn't know any more than the rest of us. He's only repeating what the McCanns want him to. Hardly a reliable commentator.

 

[RichardKimble]

He doesn't know any more than the rest of us. He's only repeating what the McCanns want him to. Hardly a reliable commentator.

For 16 yrs it been the official line hasn't it ?
Lets not forget the news on the 4/5/2007, once said it can't be unsaid.

 

[Dave55]

Is this because of the stranger abduction remit ?

No it's because of extra territorial jurisdiction.

 

[Dave55]

For 16 yrs it been the official line hasn't it ?
Lets not forget the news on the 4/5/2007, once said it can't be unsaid.

I think the range of years for the alleged rapes of the older woman and young girl show there are no tapes, else they'd harvest data to determine

So if hypothetically, police had evidence of MM being killed/disposed of by her parents, they couldn't question them under caution ? Is that what you are saying ?

In that instance...homicide ,..they could

 

[Consider Dudley]

For 16 yrs it been the official line hasn't it ?
Lets not forget the news on the 4/5/2007, once said it can't be unsaid.

It was "unsaid" by the media for most of the Summer of 2007 so I'm afraid your observation is wrong.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

HB was in prison in Greece in 2017.
Did he complete all the years, or got out before?
Many thanks, Heri.

 

[Pixie Child]

HB was in prison in Greece in 2017.
Did he complete all the years, or got out before?
Many thanks, Heri.

If they serve half in Greece, it would look like he served a year less.

. He was initially arrested in 2011 and fled Greece whilst on bail. He was rearrested in 2015, sentenced to 7y 5m and released in 2017. Looks like he only served 2y, so less than half.

Scotland Yard is looking for Madeleine’s secret in Athens - Keep Talking Greece

Scotland Yard is looking for the secret of British toddler Madeleine McCann in Athens after a witnes

www.keeptalkinggreece.com

Did anyone screenshot his FB page??