Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #34

[Trivento]

Did marcos (the lawyer/solicitor) recover bones when he funded his search? I vaguely remember a discussion about the search but can’t remember what he said he found.

Bag of small bones found in reservoir where lawyer claims Madeleine

Divers searching a reservoir for Madeleine McCann yesterday found a plastic bag containing small bones.

www.standard.co.uk

Above article refers …

Also … Summers / Swan book mentions the PJ said they were kitten bones …

 

[SuperdadV8]

Did marcos (the lawyer/solicitor) recover bones when he funded his search? I vaguely remember a discussion about the search but can’t remember what he said he found.

It is said, that bones had been found, that were non-human nature and other things related to that.

Just assumption by me right now. They found evidence, that fits a person drowning animals just for fun or satisfaction.

It could fit a known guy that probably (!) buried dogs at neuwegersleben with their heads sticking out of the ground.....

 

[Davieson]

It is said, that bones had been found, that were non-human nature and other things related to that.

Just assumption by me right now. They found evidence, that fits a person drowning animals just for fun or satisfaction.

It could fit a known guy that probably (!) buried dogs at neuwegersleben with their heads sticking out of the ground.....

Alternatively it could have been someone getting rid of unwanted puppies or kittens.

See post 846

 

[Anxala]

Pretty much spot on. I didn't hear the whole video as I was rushing trying to catch up here and a couple of other cases.

Page 40 post 796. My mind is a blank as to how to get it here on iPad, sorry.

Thanks, no worries. It's hard to keep up! I'll have a look.

 

[Riddle]

Correio da Manhã here in Portugal is publiciting that Police is searching for MM's pyjama fibers.

Source,pls

 

[onemoremiletogo]

It is said, that bones had been found, that were non-human nature and other things related to that.

Just assumption by me right now. They found evidence, that fits a person drowning animals just for fun or satisfaction.

It could fit a known guy that probably (!) buried dogs at neuwegersleben with their heads sticking out of the ground.....

Testing first in dogs?!...

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Source,pls

Correio Da Manhã on Instagram: "As buscas pelo corpo de Maddie McCann tiveram início esta terça-feira de manhã, na barragem do Arade, a cerca de 50 km da praia da Luz, onde Maddie desapareceu há 16 anos. A polícia está a procurar fibras do pijama

398 likes, 33 comments - Correio Da Manhã (@correiodamanhaoficial) on Instagram: "As buscas pelo corpo de Maddie McCann tiveram início esta terça-feira de manhã, na barragem do..."

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[Carly@lul]

Bag of small bones found in reservoir where lawyer claims Madeleine

Divers searching a reservoir for Madeleine McCann yesterday found a plastic bag containing small bones.

www.standard.co.uk

Above article refers …

Also … Summers / Swan book mentions the PJ said they were kitten bones …

underworld tip-off that Madeleine was murdered and her body thrown in a lake within 48-hours of being snatched, when Wolters said he believed she was dead didn’t he say she died within 48 hours?

 

[Anxala]

underworld tip-off that Madeleine was murdered and her body thrown in a lake within 48-hours of being snatched, when Wolters said he believed she was dead didn’t he say she died within 48 hours?

No he did not. What he did was offer his, to this day, unsubstantiated opinion as follows:

“My private opinion is that he relatively quickly killed the girl, possibly abused her and then killed her."

Madeleine McCann ‘died shortly after she was kidnapped’, German prosecutor says

German authorities said they have 'some evidence' that Madeleine McCann is dead.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[SuperdadV8]

Testing first in dogs?!...

Imho not testing in general. Imho just knowing how to torture living beings, likely for a kind of satisfaction.

Like a victim of being tortured in the past as well.

Sadistic to the bone, probably! Just assumption by me.

<modsnip: Unnecessary>

 

[C.greek]

It certainly looks like movement of sorts. I'm not sure what to think though in terms of it being significant movement. We shall see.

HCW's statement is as riddled with unnecessary ambiguity and tabloid-teasing detail as ever. I wonder why he just doesn't say something along the lines of 'We are acting on infomation received and will release a statement when our search is complete.' No one would or should expect more from him than that.

Instead we have his usual 'we know this but we can't tell you' word salad: -

Madeleine McCann: Police digging near reservoir - BBC News

Officers search an area in Portugal about 30 miles from where the toddler went missing 16 years ago.

www.bbc.co.uk

I think it is not a statement as such but that he has been answering to questions by journalists or even trying to avoid the questions being asked by answering beforehand. There is no ambiguity imo in what he has said. It is certainly an important step in the investigation. What I find more interesting is that there was no statement when they were searching his allotment whereas now we do get one. This imo would signify an important tip off

 

[Davieson]

I think it is not a statement as such but that he has been answering to questions by journalists or even trying to avoid the questions being asked by answering beforehand. There is no ambiguity imo in what he has said. It is certainly an important step in the investigation. What I find more interesting is that there was no statement when they were searching his allotment whereas now we do get one. This imo would signify an important tip off

Was that not a different force in a different state to where Wolters works?

 

[Malleux]

I think it is not a statement as such but that he has been answering to questions by journalists or even trying to avoid the questions being asked by answering beforehand. There is no ambiguity imo in what he has said. It is certainly an important step in the investigation. What I find more interesting is that there was no statement when they were searching his allotment whereas now we do get one. This imo would signify an important tip off

Yes, I agree. Thee statements he made were taken from a conversation in German to a TV channel and have been translated back to English as well. As we know, things don't always translate well with the same meaning, vernacular and turns of phrases that exist in the other language. And they can get misconstrued when we don’t have access to the full context of the conversation/questions. But I still think it's pretty clear the points HCW was getting across, unless you are trying to read too much into it.

He's basically saying the searches are not based on some huge direct evidence from CB (eg. such as he's told them/someone else where a body is buried) but they are not just speculative efforts either, they are based on some tangible tip/intel, the nature that they cannot divulge at this time. And the reason he said all that is probably because that's the sort things reporters will have been asking him, as that's the question everyone is wanting to know the answer to right now... what exactly is this search all based upon?

 

[Noseyposy76]

Hi altojack, all I can remember reading on here is that CB had photos (in presumably his possession via whatever evidence the BKA is in possession of) of this particular place/area and, according to someone else, regarded it as his (paraphrasing, I can't find the post) sanctuary of sorts ie. a place he loved. I don't recall reading anything other than that. Was there more to it other than it being a place CB liked to visit? Something significant about the photos that led to this current search?

I did have a look 3 pages back but couldn't find a relevant post. If there is one, and you know where it is, could you please point me to it.

Hi Anxala, having read the <mod note: it is the Daily Mail> this evening, allegedly the photos were found buried in CB's 'secret lair' at a dilapidated factory site in Germany.
I would imagine it was more the fact that the photos were concealed which raised suspicion, kept hidden as a trophy maybe. Police officers today at the search site, were also allegedly seen holding tablets up comparing what was on the screen to the ground in front of them.
Also, if CB’s phone signal was apparently picked up near the Ocean Club on the date of MM’s disappearance, could it have also been picked up at the reservoir in the following days, giving the Police further reason to suspect the current search site.

Police search Portuguese lake for Madeleine McCann's pink pyjamas

Detectives hunting for Madeleine McCann are scouring a lake in Portugal for the pink pyjamas the British girl was wearing when she vanished in 2007, sources close to the investigation revealed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Mex]

Hi Anxala, having read <mod note: it's the Daily Mail> this evening, allegedly the photos were found buried in CB's 'secret lair' at a dilapidated factory site in Germany.
I would imagine it was more the fact that the photos were concealed which raised suspicion, kept hidden as a trophy maybe. Police officers today at the search site, were also allegedly seen holding tablets up comparing what was on the screen to the ground in front of them.
Also, if CB’s phone signal was apparently picked up near the Ocean Club on the date of MM’s disappearance, could it have also been picked up at the reservoir in the following days, giving the Police further reason to suspect the current search site.

Police search Portuguese lake for Madeleine McCann's pink pyjamas

Detectives hunting for Madeleine McCann are scouring a lake in Portugal for the pink pyjamas the British girl was wearing when she vanished in 2007, sources close to the investigation revealed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Your link is a very full and informative article. I found the following snippet of particular interest ~

"Senior Policia Judiciaria officer Helena Monteiro led the first Portuguese police to reach the Arade Dam near the town of Silves around 45 minutes before digs began."

Helen Monteiro was the officer in charge of the review which led to the reopening of the MM investigation in 2013. She was the 'fresh eyes' from the North.
I remember reading in a tabloid article at the time that using Porto PJ was to ensure that there could be no suggestion of any ambiguity of purpose were the Algarve PJ involved. I don't remember who said it, and I do think she was as I said 'fresh eyes'.

Good to see that she stayed the course and is still investigating.

 

[Okapi]

I dont believe its that. There are many people missing in the Uk and MM is the only one with full time investigators on and meanwhile other people are turned down for searches for their loved ones.

I think this case also generates huge public interest because the original investigation was so spectacularly botched. It falls into a miscarriage of justice in a way imoo. And people would like to see it solved, especially now that there is a cooperative police investigation across jurisdictions and advances in technology to support it.

 

[Okapi]

It has started to rain in the reservoir, surely that makes the search difficult

I read up about the reservoir this morning. Apparently the area around the dam is mostly sandstone with bare scrubby slopes prone to erosion and scree landslides. The water can carry a lot of alluvial sediment, especially after the higher rainfall between October and February. The dam lowers considerably each summer when water is diverted for power and irrigation to nearby citrus and vegetable cultivation. The lake is relatively shallow, particularly the northern part of the dam.

 

[Okapi]

Did marcos (the lawyer/solicitor) recover bones when he funded his search? I vaguely remember a discussion about the search but can’t remember what he said he found.

In the Daily Express link I posted yesterday, he said they found weighted ropes. They had to abort the investigation early because of $ IIRC.

 

[Okapi]

Interesting aside about “My little paradise,” which has been reported in a lot of media outlets with the suggestion of an unsavoury association for CB.

According to this tourist website, it is actually a local nickname for the dam.

“Quinta do Arade, also named by many guests as 'the little paradise', is located near the Arade dam near the historic town of Silves in the Algarve.


Quinta do Arade

 

[RichardKimble]

So much resource thrown at this.
Somethings off.

Three years ago it was said there was concrete evidence CB took and killed Madeleine, they are now looking for it.