Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #34

[Consider Dudley]

Barragem of Arade

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The deep of water in April was 49,6 meters and growing. Could they empty the Barragem to some lesser point?

But the bottom is not at 49,66 meters. I am searching for more data in Portuguese.

According to this ITV news report the level of water is very low and they may not need divers…

 

[SuperdadV8]

The reports say the search will be 80% on land and 20% in the water. I wonder whether they are trying to find MM's clothes or something similar that CB might have buried there? It doesn't make sense to focus on land, does it?

Well, it makes a lot more sense to me, as CB is known for being keen on burying incriminating stuff.

Let's be honest, throwing a body into waters is highly dangerous, because the possibility is very high, that it will come back on to the surface really soon after. You might also need a boat to be sure, it won't come up again too early. Ihmo it needs a lot more effort to drown something successfully, than just digging a hole...

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Not sure , if it's a place that CB visited finding something of his would just confirm he was there, they need a link between CB and Madeleine. Imo.

I thought of an usb stick.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Almost certainly not, but the German prosecutor/spokesman Wolters is a master at creating more uncertainty every time he speaks. So truthfully nobody knows for certain what they've found, or not found.

It may be a video, or a photo, or non-forensic evidence, or another thing, or nothing at all ... I do not want to deny it.

 

[Pixie Child]

The reports say the search will be 80% on land and 20% in the water. I wonder whether they are trying to find MM's clothes or something similar that CB might have buried there? It doesn't make sense to focus on land, does it?

Maybe more CDs or memory sticks? A USB might be detected with a metal detector I guess.

 

[Lyall0814]

It may be a video, or a photo, or non-forensic evidence, or another thing, or nothing at all ... I do not want to deny it.

You've captured him perfectly there

 

[SuperdadV8]

Maybe more CDs or memory sticks?

The main target should be possible remains of MM, or maybe clothing etc..

But i'm curious as well. I would assume some kind of specific target, according to the short schedule in direct comparison to the huge area.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

The main target should be possible remains of MM, or maybe clothing etc..

But i'm curious as well. I would assume some kind of specific target, according to the short schedule in direct comparison to the huge area.

I read two days or more, fi they found something of interest.

 

[Pixie Child]

BKA found photos of him at the dam. You gotta give credit to the Germans for the work they are putting in to this. I think this is work driven by the input of their Forensic Psychologist.

Madeleine McCann detectives lock down Algarve reservoir

Roads leading into the Arade Dam, the 'little paradise' of sole suspect Christian Brueckner a 40-minute drive from Praia da Luz where the youngster vanished 16 years ago, were sealed off yesterday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 268165]

According to this ITV news report the level of water is very low and they may not need divers…

It was low the last months, now it is more filled.

26.9% SEP 22
25.4% OCT 22
25.3% NOV 22
26.7% DIC 22
26.6% JAN 23
26.7% FEB 23
26.7% MAR 23
42.8% APR 23
39.7% MAY 23 (yesterday)

SNIRH > Dados Sintetizados

SNIRH - Sistema Nacional de Informação de Recursos Hídricos

snirh.apambiente.pt

Barragens.pt - Início

Vê num mapa o estado de armazenamento das barragens em Portugal

barragens.pt

 

[Lyall0814]

Jon Clarke tells Sky News "I think the police are confident of finding two or more bodies here". (Shameless hack)

 

[mrjitty]

The reports say the search will be 80% on land and 20% in the water. I wonder whether they are trying to find MM's clothes or something similar that CB might have buried there? It doesn't make sense to focus on land, does it?

I think land makes a lot of sense.

Abduction cases typically have multiple crime scenes, the final one of which is the 'dumping ground' - bodies are frequently not that well concealed.

Their hunch may simply be this is a place he knew well, where he could dig a shallow grave without being discovered.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

My question is: the body of water is an interesting point to thrown a corpse, but if someone think of hidden a corpse by burying it, why close to a body a water, and not elsewhere? After all the suspect was always moving around all the Algarve ... There would be intelligence, I expect not to be Marcos Correia love spirits informants.

http://elibrary.pcu.edu.ph:9000/digi/CV04/CV040000511.pdf

 

[SuperdadV8]

Aktuelle Ermittlungsmaßnahmen im Fall Madeleine McCann | Staatsanwaltschaft Braunschweig

staatsanwaltschaft-braunschweig.niedersachsen.de

"Current investigative measures in the Madeleine McCann case
PRESS RELEASE OF 05/23/2023

Criminal proceedings are currently taking place in Portugal as part of the investigation into the Madeleine McCann case. The measures are implemented through mutual legal assistance by the Portuguese law enforcement authorities with the support of officials from the Federal Criminal Police Office.

For tactical reasons, no further information on the background is currently being released."

 

[mrjitty]

My question is: the body of water is an interesting point to thrown a corpse, but if someone think of hidden a corpse by burying it, why close to a body a water, and not elsewhere? After all the suspect was always moving around the Algarve ...

it may not be related to the water, but rather this is a place he knew, and was confident about

It was the same in the McStay case - the gravesites was down a backroad well known to the killer

 

[mrjitty]

Aktuelle Ermittlungsmaßnahmen im Fall Madeleine McCann | Staatsanwaltschaft Braunschweig

staatsanwaltschaft-braunschweig.niedersachsen.de

"Current investigative measures in the Madeleine McCann case
PRESS RELEASE OF 05/23/2023

Criminal proceedings are currently taking place in Portugal as part of the investigation into the Madeleine McCann case. The measures are implemented through mutual legal assistance by the Portuguese law enforcement authorities with the support of officials from the Federal Criminal Police Office.

For tactical reasons, no further information on the background is currently being released."

I guess we'll have to rely on the Olive Press back channel!

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Aktuelle Ermittlungsmaßnahmen im Fall Madeleine McCann | Staatsanwaltschaft Braunschweig

staatsanwaltschaft-braunschweig.niedersachsen.de

"Current investigative measures in the Madeleine McCann case
PRESS RELEASE OF 05/23/2023

Criminal proceedings are currently taking place in Portugal as part of the investigation into the Madeleine McCann case. The measures are implemented through mutual legal assistance by the Portuguese law enforcement authorities with the support of officials from the Federal Criminal Police Office.

For tactical reasons, no further information on the background is currently being released."

So the press statement informed that they cannot inform
Maybe all of this is to put pressure on the suspect, to observe his reactions.

 

[Mex]

It may be a video, or a photo, or non-forensic evidence, or another thing, or nothing at all ... I do not want to deny it.

I have been mulling over the information that we do know and it puzzles me. It also calls to mind the struggles SY had with letters of requests in 2014 and the restrictions the Portuguese authorities placed on their investigation.

The German investigation was reported to have been refused permission to recheck a DNA sample. I find it absolutely extraordinary that the search of an area in the conditions detailed in the public domain, has been restricted to an allotted two days.

That is so bizarre it is practically unbelievable.

 

[mrjitty]

Fingers crossed they have something and this is not a wild goose chase like 2014

 

[mrjitty]

I have been mulling over the information that we do know and it puzzles me. It also calls to mind the struggles SY had with letters of requests in 2014 and the restrictions the Portuguese authorities placed on their investigation.

The German investigation was reported to have been refused permission to recheck a DNA sample. I find it absolutely extraordinary that the search of an area in the conditions detailed in the public domain, has been restricted to an allotted two days.

That is so bizarre it is practically unbelievable.

if you read the necroseach book you will see it is not bizarre at all for cold cases

It is extremely difficult to get police authorities to sign off on big budgets for cold case searches unless there is a high degree of confidence, or something is found early on that can trigger a larger investment.

When you look at the scope of resources allocated here - it is a significant amount of money quite obviously. Hence i am not surprised there are budgetary limitations. Especially after the fiasco of 2014.