Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #34

[onemoremiletogo]

Not sure , if it's a place that CB visited finding something of his would just confirm he was there, they need a link between CB and Madeleine. Imo.

They want parts of body or "residues" but if not achievable after all these years, as expected, they probably try to catch any CB's belongings to link with any CB's autobiographic texts/other testimonies they may have.

 

[Davieson]

if you read the necroseach book you will see it is not bizarre at all for cold cases

It is extremely difficult to get police authorities to sign off on big budgets for cold case searches unless there is a high degree of confidence, or something is found early on that can trigger a larger investment.

When you look at the scope of resources allocated here - it is a significant amount of money quite obviously. Hence i am not surprised there are budgetary limitations. Especially after the fiasco of 2014.

Perhaps OG has contributed to the cost and as a consequence have observer rights.

 

[Consider Dudley]

It was low the last months, now it is more filled.

26.9% SEP 22
25.4% OCT 22
25.3% NOV 22
26.7% DIC 22
26.6% JAN 23
26.7% FEB 23
26.7% MAR 23
42.8% APR 23
39.7% MAY 23 (yesterday)

SNIRH > Dados Sintetizados

SNIRH - Sistema Nacional de Informação de Recursos Hídricos

snirh.apambiente.pt

Barragens.pt - Início

Vê num mapa o estado de armazenamento das barragens em Portugal

barragens.pt

That is still very low comparatively. Earlier would obviously have been better but perhaps the permission took a while to be granted.

 

[Consider Dudley]

Jon Clarke tells Sky News "I think the police are confident of finding two or more bodies here". (Shameless hack)

Imagine if they found Joana as well.

 

[Mex]

Almost certainly not, but the German prosecutor/spokesman Wolters is a master at creating more uncertainty every time he speaks. So truthfully nobody knows for certain what they've found, or not found.

The investigators know exactly what the results were and it is appropriate that they and not anyone else know what they are in what is an active police investigation.

 

[mrjitty]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> ... if you read the book No Stone Unturned, from an organisation Necrosearch that specialises in cold case body recovery - a big theme is the difficulty of getting authorities to invest money in cold cases unless confidence is high - for typical bureaucratic reasons.

No one wants to be the one to waste 20K or 200K on a search that locates nothing, when departmental budgets and resources are under pressure. Especially open ended searches will never be approved. A budget has to be drawn up and approved.

<modsnip>

A cold 'missing persons' case is simply not high priority for a department, as it is not part of their current case load or performance that they are judged on.

 

[mrjitty]

I think everyone is over focussing on 'permission' versus allocation of resources and budgetary considerations

Perhaps Germany is paying and this is all they are able to invest in it?

 

[WestLondoner]

The Met is rocked by scandal at the moment. The prospect of root and branch reform is on the table for them.

Realistically, they probably do need to be disbanded and replaced from scratch. We've seen with the FSA --> FCA, where the organisation actually became more incompetent, that you can't start by leaving all the same people in charge.

 

[Davieson]

I think everyone is over focussing on 'permission' versus allocation of resources and budgetary considerations

Perhaps Germany is paying and this is all they are able to invest in it?

The Germans must have already spent a significant amount on the investigation.

 

[mrjitty]

The Germans must have already spent a significant amount on the investigation.

That's why I wonder if they are paying.

They are the ones with the political / budgetary pressure to solve it.

 

[RichardKimble]

Perhaps OG has contributed to the cost and as a consequence have observer rights.

What's the request ,£300,000 for funding, just to observe?

 

[mrjitty]

Realistically, they probably do need to be disbanded and replaced from scratch. We've seen with the FSA --> FCA, where the organisation actually became more incompetent, that you can't start by leaving all the same people in charge.

Agreed. In any event, people who live in glasshouses etc

 

[mrjitty]

What's the request ,£300,000 for funding, just to observe?

I think all that means is an officer or 2 has come over to observe/liase - but they are not committing resource to search

 

[RichardKimble]

Two different locations searched prior to this, the digs by OG, wells by the PJ, why is it supposed this location should turn up anything different.

 

[WestLondoner]

My question is: the body of water is an interesting point to thrown a corpse, but if someone think of hidden a corpse by burying it, why close to a body a water, and not elsewhere? After all the suspect was always moving around all the Algarve ...

I suppose if you are hiding a body, you'd need to do so in a place you know well enough in the first place to be sure it will stay hidden. So if FTSOA this were you or me, the list of places you or I know where we could hide a body is probably quite short, certainly limited to places we have previously been to, and may be a place we have been to a lot. The reason 'why close to a body of water' may simply be that people go walking and picnicking next to bodies of water because they're scenic. A certain cast of mind takes mental notes while doing so of future hiding places.

If you stash a body in a place you haven't scouted, and that you think looks secluded in the heat of the moment, you run the risk of rapid discovery if you've misjudged this.

This is IIRC what happened to the ill-fated B20 SAS patrol in Iraq in 1991. Arriving by night they found a wadi they thought was nice and secluded, and hunkered down. The sun comes up and they're right on top of a great big road, civilian dwellings and an Iraqi army division.

 

[WestLondoner]

I find it absolutely extraordinary that the search of an area in the conditions detailed in the public domain, has been restricted to an allotted two days.

I don't suppose we know how long they asked for, do we? If they asked for two weeks and were given two days, that puts a different slant on it versus asking for two days and getting two days.

 

[Davieson]

What's the request ,£300,000 for funding, just to observe?

I fancy observing is all they've been doing for a while

 

[mrjitty]

I don't suppose we know how long they asked for, do we? If they asked for two weeks and were given two days, that puts a different slant on it versus asking for two days and getting two days.

Right - we don't know that anyone restricted anything.

 

[SuperdadV8]

There is a "livestream".

Madeleine McCann police remove bags during reservoir search

British police were present during the search of the Arade dam in Portugal, which is located about 31 miles from where the girl went missing.

news.sky.com

I can see sniffer dogs on the spot, so it seems to be pretty obvious, what they are looking for....

 

[Davieson]

There is a "livestream".

Madeleine McCann police remove bags during reservoir search

British police were present during the search of the Arade dam in Portugal, which is located about 31 miles from where the girl went missing.

news.sky.com

I really don't think this should be turned into daytime TV entertainment.