Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #35

[Denis R Tandib]

My sincere apologies for any disrespect you detected in my previous post.
So CB will keep his cast iron alibi secret until he has been charged and is in court and will reveal it for the first time there with a triumphant flourish. The case will crumble and CB will march out of court with his held held high, a free man. A nice fantasy.

Odd that in his boastful, whingeing letters he doesn’t even claim to have a cast iron alibi (never mind divulge it), even if only to make the BKA sweat a little bit. Odder still that if never charged he will take this cast iron alibi to his grave, letting the wider public believe he was the man responsible for Madeleine’s abduction.

Oh well, he’s an odd man and this is an odd case, so I guess anything’s possible!

As I understand it, both sides will follow the legal process and share their information at the discovery stage - once CB has been charged.

It's not about whether or not he has an alibi, it's about him following advise from his legal team. That's what anyone with common sense would do.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Amateur, I would say.

Did FF ever share what the alibi was? How do you know it's not good? Still a chance you could fall of your chair.

 

[Davieson]

Why did he attempt to supply one then, when he claimed to be having sex with some girl in a camper van that night? HCW has suggested that CB was close to or adjacent to Apt5a that night, so an alibi that proves he wasn’t bursts that particular balloon doesn’t it?

He provided a valid alibi, just not for the correct week.
I reckon he is just playing games and delighted in watching police waste time and effort in investigating what he said.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I’m coming to that conclusion after an hour trawling thread 22. Far out, it would take me a year to catch up to here, not to mention how on earth to corral so many contradictions! I will let seeking dogs lie.

Read it all, it won't help you!

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Why did he attempt to supply one then, when he claimed to be having sex with some girl in a camper van that night? HCW has suggested that CB was close to or adjacent to Apt5a that night, so an alibi that proves he wasn’t bursts that particular balloon doesn’t it?

Did he make that claim or did MWT? If you have a direct quote from CB, please share it. Not saying he didn't but I can't recall it.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Were they on audio/video rather than from a written report? I have tried googling both and got no results, nor for those dates, but that’s probably me not looking properly.

Incorrect post.

 

[RichardKimble]

Did FF ever share what the alibi was? How do you know it's not good? Still a chance you could fall of your chair.

The falling off the chair could even be a legal thing,

 

[RichardKimble]

Did he make that claim or did MWT? If you have a direct quote from CB, please share it. Not saying he didn't but I can't recall it.

PROSECUTORS have rebuffed claims the case against Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B is set to crumble after British investigators allegedly found he has an alibi. A team led by an ex-detective claim to have discovered the sex predator, 44, was “30 minutes away” from the resort in Praia da Luz, Portugal, when Madeleine disappeared.

Case against Maddie suspect is NOT ready to ‘crumble over his alibi’

PROSECUTORS have rebuffed claims the case against Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B is set to crumble after British investigators allegedly found he has an alibi. A team led by an ex-detective c…

www.the-sun.com

 

[Pixie Child]

Separately, yes, unless any inherence, modus operandi, similiarities in any of his "possessions"/background could be captured?! Not sure.

The HB aggravated rape case stands alone a serious crime.

These items will have been on their search list: gag, machete, whips, chains, rope.

If the MM case was before a jury, there would be legal argument about introducing evidence of modus operandi, prior crimes, convictions - so as not to prejudice a Jury. I would expect that wouldn’t apply in a Judge only case.

Of course, if they found MM DNA on any of those items, they would become relevant.

 

[RichardKimble]

The HB aggravated rape case stands alone a serious crime.

These items will have been on their search list: gag, machete, whips, chains, rope.

If the MM case was before a jury, there would be legal argument about introducing evidence of modus operandi, prior crimes, convictions - so as not to prejudice a Jury. I would expect that wouldn’t apply in a Judge only case.

Of course, if they found MM DNA on any of those items, they would become relevant.

The rape of HB happened in 2004, some stretch to get MM dna on those items listed.

 

[enquirer6]

My sincere apologies for any disrespect you detected in my previous post.
So CB will keep his cast iron alibi secret until he has been charged and is in court and will reveal it for the first time there with a triumphant flourish. The case will crumble and CB will march out of court with his held held high, a free man. A nice fantasy.

Odd that in his boastful, whingeing letters he doesn’t even claim to have a cast iron alibi (never mind divulge it), even if only to make the BKA sweat a little bit. Odder still that if never charged he will take this cast iron alibi to his grave, letting the wider public believe he was the man responsible for Madeleine’s abduction.

Oh well, he’s an odd man and this is an odd case, so I guess anything’s possible!

Your use of irony is not lost on me and I enjoyed the post.

But there is a slight problem. Convicted or acquitted, of crimes against Madeleine, Brueckner would march out of court and straight back into prison, to serve the rest of his sentence for unrelated crimes.

 

[Consider Dudley]

Did he make that claim or did MWT? If you have a direct quote from CB, please share it. Not saying he didn't but I can't recall it.

I don’t know how the claim got into the media but according to this it originated from CB (no mention of MWT) Madeleine McCann: Suspect Christian B claims he has an alibi which can be backed by woman

 

[Consider Dudley]

Incorrect post.

I don’t understand your comment.

 

[Consider Dudley]

As I understand it, both sides will follow the legal process and share their information at the discovery stage - once CB has been charged.

It's not about whether or not he has an alibi, it's about him following advise from his legal team. That's what anyone with common sense would do.

Then I think CB’s legal team is causing their client unnecessary stress and suffering if he really is able to show that he was nowehere near the crime scene that night. It is often the case that a police suspect will provide an alibi long before charges or trial has commenced in order to be cleared of suspicion as soon as possible, I don’t understand why that wouldnt work for the suspect in this case too.

 

[Pixie Child]

The rape of HB happened in 2004, some stretch to get MM dna on those items listed.

Agreed, unless preserved as a trophy perhaps.

They will also hopefully have the sheets and they could potentially compare pollen, plant materials in the dust. Long shot, I know.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I don’t know how the claim got into the media but according to this it originated from CB (no mention of MWT) Madeleine McCann: Suspect Christian B claims he has an alibi which can be backed by woman

Given that article you reference is a week or so after MWT's sensationalized exclusive to the Sun (below), I can only assume that this is the source. BTW, no quotes from MWT, nothing verbatim in the article, just words from someone flogging a documentary.

I do think we can say CB or FF have not shared an alibi but that's just my opinion.

Inside Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B's explosive TV claim he has 'alibi'

THE parents of missing Madeleine McCann last night welcomed news that caged Christian B has been made an official suspect. Kate and Gerry also said they hoped their daughter was still alive. B was …

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[RichardKimble]

Given that article you reference is a week or so after MWT's sensationalized exclusive to the Sun (below), I can only assume that this is the source. BTW, no quotes from MWT, nothing verbatim in the article, just words from someone flogging a documentary.

I do think we can say CB or FF have shared an alibi but that's just my opinion.

Inside Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B's explosive TV claim he has 'alibi'

THE parents of missing Madeleine McCann last night welcomed news that caged Christian B has been made an official suspect. Kate and Gerry also said they hoped their daughter was still alive. B was …

www.thesun.co.uk

Don't you mean CB nor FF have shared an alibi, not picking fault I know I make enough errors.

 

[Mex]

Defence needs to have trust if they're going to reveal confidential information that it isn't going to appear in a Nick Pisa article a few days later, and I think it's impossible for them to have that trust. When HCW originally appealed for information in June 2020 the media within one day had enough material to fill hour-long documentaries. One day! Where do you think it all came from?

What confidences has NP released into the public domain regarding the five counts against CB.

• At some point between 2000 and 2006: The rape of an unidentified woman aged between 70 and 80 in a holiday home in Portugal
• At some point between 2000 and 2006: The rape of a German-speaking girl believed to have been at least 14 years old in his home in Praia da Luz
• 2004: The rape of a 20-year-old Irish woman after entering her apartment in Praia da Rocha
• 2007: The sexual abuse of a 10-year-old German girl on a beach in Salema, Faro
• 2017: The sexual abuse of an 11-year-old Portuguese girl in a playground in Bartolomeu de Messines

Bearing in mind that each and everyone of these are subject to sharing evidence - prosecution and defence - as part of the German judicial system.

This is the norm and the inference that the prosecution would abuse the system in the way you suggest I find is quite bizarre.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Did FF ever share what the alibi was? How do you know it's not good? Still a chance you could fall of your chair.

FF? I do not recall, but there was that poor story of the girl attempting to support CB. By himself or "supporting" team.
Don't know if they have something else.

Maybe it's "fall off" but I'm not even native.
Could I? Not really. I definitely do not believe they are even able to fabricate a decent one. If the charge comes, of course.

 

[Megnut]

I don’t know how the claim got into the media but according to this it originated from CB (no mention of MWT) Madeleine McCann: Suspect Christian B claims he has an alibi which can be backed by woman

Going straight off my fuzzy memory, didn't that girl say they were together during that general time and her strongest support was that he was acting perfectly normal so she was certain he wasn't in any way connected?

(Psychopaths are capable of great acting -- practiced normalcy. IMO)