Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #36

[Pixie Child]

Right. How does JC "know this" about what was in the Lidl bag - do we seriously believe HCW told him the info?

As for the "... perfect stone circle, the type druids might once use for ritual gatherings and sacrifices" - does he also mean "of the type people like mrjitty has around their campfire?". Literally everyone round here has that.

Sorry to push back but this is the same tabloid journalist who tried to fit up RM because of his intuitions so 3 pinches of salt for me.

The Germans probably find him useful to reach their targets and he’s probably occasionally useful on the ground. They wouldn’t take him entirely into their confidences beyond what’s necessary. They will however be aware that he will write another book so I don’t think they would lie to him.

The DM journalists originally used ‘cleanse’ rather than ‘clean, bathe, wash’. Are they all trying to suggest a ritual killing?

 

[RichardKimble]

The Germans probably find him useful to reach their targets and he’s probably occasionally useful on the ground. They wouldn’t take him entirely into their confidences beyond what’s necessary. They will however be aware that he will write another book so I don’t think they would lie to him.

The DM journalists originally used ‘cleanse’ rather than ‘clean, bathe, wash’. Are they all trying to suggest a ritual killing?

What target, his paper is for expats in spain, his books? Very small audience.imo or the court of a minority of public opinion which counts for diddly squat in a murder investigation.

 

[misty48]

LW is from Zweibrucken in southwest Germany (border of France).

MWT headed from Braunschweig towards Magdeburg/Berlin.

It doesn’t seem likely therefore that he was headed towards Zweibrucken.

Seems most likely therefore that there are 2 L*nas.

MWT was heading towards Magdeburg to speak to witness ALE (the holiday fling/airport Mace incident), not LE (the runaway teen).

 

[enquirer6]

MWT was heading towards Magdeburg to speak to witness ALE (the holiday fling/airport Mace incident), not LE (the runaway teen).

... to witness ale?

To watch people rolling around drunk?

There are some great posters on this board. But you pretty much all drive me mad with your prolific use of abbreviations, and I seldom have a clue what they mean.

 

[misty48]

... to witness ale?

To watch people rolling around drunk?

There are some great posters on this board. But you pretty much all drive me mad with your prolific use of abbreviations, and I seldom have a clue what they mean.

ALE are the witness's initials. We are not allowed to post full names here.

 

[enquirer6]

ALE are the witness's initials. We are not allowed to post full names here.

Ah! Thank you.

 

[Pixie Child]

What target, his paper is for expats in spain, his books? Very small audience.imo or the court of a minority of public opinion which counts for diddly squat in a murder investigation.

His target may be former friends & acquaintances of CB.

 

[RichardKimble]

It seems there’s a possibility he was in close proximity to 3 little girls that vanished without a trace. Madeleine, Joanna & Inga. That’s a massive coincidence if that was the case.

IMO - perhaps it’s less likely he was in close proximity to Inga but quite likely he was to Joanna.

Ref Inga, caveat it originated from not an approved source on WS.


But despite the link, Thomas Kramer, a spokesperson for the prosecutor's office in Stendal, told the newspaper: 'The investigation of Christian B regarding Inga's disappearance is currently closed.

'Police investigations have been conducted but they have not produced any facts to suggest that Christian B. could have abducted, abused or killed Inga.

'Therefore, even after this additional research, there was no initial suspicion against Chrisitan B., so that the preliminary proceedings were discontinued.'

Christian Brueckner is ruled out of probe into missing German girl

Inga Gehricke - dubbed Germany's Madeleine McCann - vanished in 2015 near a factory Christian Brueckner was working on. He is the chief suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Ref Inga, caveat it originated from not an approved source on WS.


But despite the link, Thomas Kramer, a spokesperson for the prosecutor's office in Stendal, told the newspaper: 'The investigation of Christian B regarding Inga's disappearance is currently closed.

'Police investigations have been conducted but they have not produced any facts to suggest that Christian B. could have abducted, abused or killed Inga.

'Therefore, even after this additional research, there was no initial suspicion against Chrisitan B., so that the preliminary proceedings were discontinued.'

Christian Brueckner is ruled out of probe into missing German girl

Inga Gehricke - dubbed Germany's Madeleine McCann - vanished in 2015 near a factory Christian Brueckner was working on. He is the chief suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Was any other one investigated more recently? At least suspected? What was the "veredict" for this case? Is it closed?
Well, in Joana C's case, many many doubts on how the case was conducted and "concluded". And what was neglected by PJ under GA's tenure... but Joana's parents were not doctors...

 

[Okapi]

Ref Inga, caveat it originated from not an approved source on WS.


But despite the link, Thomas Kramer, a spokesperson for the prosecutor's office in Stendal, told the newspaper: 'The investigation of Christian B regarding Inga's disappearance is currently closed.

'Police investigations have been conducted but they have not produced any facts to suggest that Christian B. could have abducted, abused or killed Inga.

'Therefore, even after this additional research, there was no initial suspicion against Chrisitan B., so that the preliminary proceedings were discontinued.'

Christian Brueckner is ruled out of probe into missing German girl

Inga Gehricke - dubbed Germany's Madeleine McCann - vanished in 2015 near a factory Christian Brueckner was working on. He is the chief suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Quick question to the floor - I can’t locate a list on WS - which UK mainstream media are non-approved sources? I wasn’t aware of this when I dallied on WS a couple of years ago. Thanks in advance!

 

[Mex]

Ref Inga, caveat it originated from not an approved source on WS.


But despite the link, Thomas Kramer, a spokesperson for the prosecutor's office in Stendal, told the newspaper: 'The investigation of Christian B regarding Inga's disappearance is currently closed.

'Police investigations have been conducted but they have not produced any facts to suggest that Christian B. could have abducted, abused or killed Inga.

'Therefore, even after this additional research, there was no initial suspicion against Chrisitan B., so that the preliminary proceedings were discontinued.'

Christian Brueckner is ruled out of probe into missing German girl

Inga Gehricke - dubbed Germany's Madeleine McCann - vanished in 2015 near a factory Christian Brueckner was working on. He is the chief suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Which illustrates perfectly my opinion that individuals have been ruled out from police inquiries when there is no supporting evidence against them.

Makes it incomprehensible why accusation has been levelled so indiscriminately during legitimate investigation into a suspect in this case.

Why would the same investigators rule one investigation out for lack of evidence but stich up the suspect for the other as some allege (not on this forum). Each case has the same notoriety as I think I've seen it suggested elsewhere the police are in it for the publicity of cracking the MM case. It really doesn't make sense as I think German police could expect more kudos in IG's case.

 

[frank-cole]

Ref Inga, caveat it originated from not an approved source on WS.


But despite the link, Thomas Kramer, a spokesperson for the prosecutor's office in Stendal, told the newspaper: 'The investigation of Christian B regarding Inga's disappearance is currently closed.

'Police investigations have been conducted but they have not produced any facts to suggest that Christian B. could have abducted, abused or killed Inga.

'Therefore, even after this additional research, there was no initial suspicion against Chrisitan B., so that the preliminary proceedings were discontinued.'

Christian Brueckner is ruled out of probe into missing German girl

Inga Gehricke - dubbed Germany's Madeleine McCann - vanished in 2015 near a factory Christian Brueckner was working on. He is the chief suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Thanks for letting me know

 

[frank-cole]

Was any other one investigated more recently? At least suspected? What was the "veredict" for this case? Is it closed?
Well, in Joana C's case, many many doubts on how the case was conducted and "concluded". And what was neglected by PJ under GA's tenure... but Joana's parents were not doctors...

IMO their treatment from the PJ was repulsive & with many similarities to how the investigated the MM case.

 

[Davieson]

Which illustrates perfectly my opinion that individuals have been ruled out from police inquiries when there is no supporting evidence against them.

Makes it incomprehensible why accusation has been levelled so indiscriminately during legitimate investigation into a suspect in this case.

Why would the same investigators rule one investigation out for lack of evidence but stich up the suspect for the other as some allege (not on this forum). Each case has the same notoriety as I think I've seen it suggested elsewhere the police are in it for the publicity of cracking the MM case. It really doesn't make sense as I think German police could expect more kudos in IG's case.

They are not the same investigators, other than being German.
I would think one difference is that in one case CB could not be shown to be anywhere near the crimes scene, whereas in the MM case, CB is known to be in the PDL area at the time, although there appears to be no actual link with the crime.
CB is Wolters only suspect and he's not going to give up until he has exhausted every possible investigative avenue and can proceed no further

 

[frank-cole]

Which illustrates perfectly my opinion that individuals have been ruled out from police inquiries when there is no supporting evidence against them.

Makes it incomprehensible why accusation has been levelled so indiscriminately during legitimate investigation into a suspect in this case.

Why would the same investigators rule one investigation out for lack of evidence but stich up the suspect for the other as some allege (not on this forum). Each case has the same notoriety as I think I've seen it suggested elsewhere the police are in it for the publicity of cracking the MM case. It really doesn't make sense as I think German police could expect more kudos in IG's case.

Great point. It highlights that the prosecutors being involved in 1 & not the other can only be for 1 reason. Evidence against a suspect.

 

[RichardKimble]

Quick question to the floor - I can’t locate a list on WS - which UK mainstream media are non-approved sources? I wasn’t aware of this when I dallied on WS a couple of years ago. Thanks in advance!

Sun (uk/us) versions of which I know.

 

[Mex]

They are not the same investigators, other than being German.
I would think one difference is that in one case CB could not be shown to be anywhere near the crimes scene, whereas in the MM case, CB is known to be in the PDL area at the time, although there appears to be no actual link with the crime.
CB is Wolters only suspect and he's not going to give up until he has exhausted every possible investigative avenue and can proceed no further

Sorry, I thought I had added a cite for that opinion.

Investigators examine possible connection to the Inga case​

More details are coming to light about the suspect in the Maddie case: According to SPIEGEL information, investigators are also examining a possible connection to the missing Inga in Saxony-Anhalt.

Fall Maddie: Ermittler prüfen Zusammenhang zu weiterem Vermisstenfall

Zu dem Verdächtigen im Fall Maddie kommen mehr Details ans Licht: Nach SPIEGEL-Informationen prüfen Ermittler auch eine mögliche Verbindung zur verschwundenen Inga in Sachsen-Anhalt.

www.spiegel.de

 

[Mex]

Great point. It highlights that the prosecutors being involved in 1 & not the other can only be for 1 reason. Evidence against a suspect.

I wish I was able to sum up what I want to say as you do so succinctly using only four words.

 

[Tekno]

... to witness ale?

To watch people rolling around drunk?

There are some great posters on this board. But you pretty much all drive me mad with your prolific use of abbreviations, and I seldom have a clue what they mean.

Witness ALE was named here.

 

[SuperdadV8]

LW is from Zweibrucken in southwest Germany (border of France).

MWT headed from Braunschweig towards Magdeburg/Berlin.

It doesn’t seem likely therefore that he was headed towards Zweibrucken.

Seems most likely therefore that there are 2 L*nas.

I'm pretty sure, she is from the town Freiburg im Breisgau. Close to the area, panikspatz66 is/was from! The topography from MWT's doco matches that area very well.