Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #36

[Consider Dudley]

The Germans would of course have been just as interested in ruling him out as ruling him in, in fact I believe the Prosecutor is legally obliged to look for evidence that exonerates as well as implicates, correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[Consider Dudley]

MWT:
The former detective said the prisoner agreed to talk to him in person before the prison authorities blocked them from meeting.

"We have since been in contact at length in writing and he has explained his position to me in detail.

"He has told me exactly where he was on the night Madeleine disappeared — and that he was not where the police say he was. He also insists that he is entirely innocent.

"My inquiries have unearthed evidence which is pretty explosive, but I’m not saying whether I believe what he told me. That’s for viewers to judge."

MWT may be many things but a bare-faced liar? Obviously some are prepared to entertain the idea in order to support CB’s position.

 

[Lyall0814]

so why no criticism of CB when he attempted to provide one (unsuccessfully)? Was he intent on harming his own case when he did so? Was it crazy? But no, not a word said against this.

His lawyer can't control who CB corresponds with, and he can't control what his client writes in the letters either. Lawyers are probably frequently infuriated by things their clients do.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

We found nobody who gives Christian B an alibi.

And, although police and media pressure, it seems nobody who can show evidence CB did it. IMO.

But caught in the act?! Recorded in the act?! Sighted in the act?! An accomplice?
IMO he acted alone, he might even have been meticulous, lucky, solitary.
In any case, we don't know any "lateral evidence" that may have been reported to BKA. Even if not yet sufficient.
Also here in this case, his sadist pleasures of retaining his trophies (e.g. videos/photos) could have been his ruin. But he had plenty of time and even police "alerts" to destroy them.
And no final proof has came/found since the appeal, so, again, IMO BKA would just get there with his confession.

 

[Consider Dudley]

His lawyer can't control who CB corresponds with, and he can't control what his client writes in the letters either. Lawyers are probably frequently infuriated by things their clients do.

I’ve no doubt you’re right but my point was specifically about the reluctance to acknowledge or criticise CB’s actions in attempting to provide an alibi for himself. Instead we were invited to consider the likelihood that MWT made this up for dramatic effect.

 

[frank-cole]

I agree it isn't feasible to expect one to produce an alibi unless one knows the time and date for which it is required.

But exactly when did the alibi first come into the equation?

Didn't CB volunteer one which is not mentioned much at all now since there were no takers to back him up. wonder whether he’s cautious about putting forward an attempt at an alibi because he

I agree it isn't feasible to expect one to produce an alibi unless one knows the time and date for which it is required.

But exactly when did the alibi first come into the equation?

Didn't CB volunteer one which is not mentioned much at all now since there were no takers to back him up.

 

[frank-cole]

I agree it isn't feasible to expect one to produce an alibi unless one knows the time and date for which it is required.

But exactly when did the alibi first come into the equation?

Didn't CB volunteer one which is not mentioned much at all now since there were no takers to back him up.

IMO CB won’t have a valid alibi. IMO it’s possible he’s apprehensive about constructing one (at this point) perhaps because of the things he may have said in 2013. Running the risk of contradicting himself would likely work against him. Hence a loose non-alibi to a journalist who likes to run with the controversial. JMO

 

[Lyall0814]

I’ve no doubt you’re right but my point was specifically about the reluctance to acknowledge or criticise CB’s actions in attempting to provide an alibi for himself. Instead we were invited to consider the likelihood that MWT made this up for dramatic effect.

Apologies for not reading carefully enough and getting the wrong end of the stick then (it's easily done in this heat)

 

[frank-cole]

MWT:
The former detective said the prisoner agreed to talk to him in person before the prison authorities blocked them from meeting.

"We have since been in contact at length in writing and he has explained his position to me in detail.

"He has told me exactly where he was on the night Madeleine disappeared — and that he was not where the police say he was. He also insists that he is entirely innocent.

"My inquiries have unearthed evidence which is pretty explosive, but I’m not saying whether I believe what he told me. That’s for viewers to judge."

MWT may be many things but a bare-faced liar? Obviously some are prepared to entertain the idea in order to support CB’s position.

MWT’s hypothesis gives him away IMO. He ‘uncovered’ an ‘alibi’ that the girl CB was having a fling with couldn’t account for his whereabouts on the night of the abduction.

He then waffled on about how this ‘alibi’ somehow indicates he didn’t commit the crime during the time that the ‘alibi’ can’t vouch for.

A very drunk person repeatedly spinning around on a park roundabout, wearing a fancy dress police officer outfit, 2 days into a 3 day stag party, wouldn’t even come to the same conclusion MWT did. Point being, MWT’s theory is IMO incredibly …….. (another word for stupid)

 

[mrjitty]

It is an interesting point though, have the German prosecutors met CB or his legal team face to face to tell them he is the focus of the investigation rather than let it run through the media. Isn't CB entitled to anonymity under German law until charged , what happened to that?

I understand they haven't done this as the official interview triggers disclosure of evidence.

We don't do trial by ambush in western democracies

Whether in Germany or the UK, it is not possible for the prosecution to conduct an on the record interview that can be used at trial, without disclosure.

This is why law enforcement tend to try to avoid making potential suspects into actual suspects and keep them as witnesses, so they can more easily speak to them without triggering legal protections

Too late in this case.

 

[mrjitty]

I’ve no doubt you’re right but my point was specifically about the reluctance to acknowledge or criticise CB’s actions in attempting to provide an alibi for himself. Instead we were invited to consider the likelihood that MWT made this up for dramatic effect.

MWT is an access merchant

I wouldn't be surprised if the price of his access was publicising a defence version. Wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Lyall0814]

And, although police and media pressure, it seems nobody who can show evidence CB did it. IMO.

But caught in the act?! Recorded in the act?! Sighted in the act?! An accomplice?
IMO he acted alone, he might even have been meticulous, lucky, solitary.
In any case, we don't know any "lateral evidence" that may have been reported to BKA. Even if not yet sufficient.
Also here in this case, his sadist pleasures of retaining his trophies (e.g. videos/photos) could have been his ruin. But he had plenty of time and even police "alerts" to destroy them.
And no final proof has came/found since the appeal, so, again, IMO BKA would just get there with his confession.

He didn't have time to get rid of or move the large amount of digital material found in 2016, but there was apparently nothing that could be connected to MM in that lot because they only started associating him with her a year later. This is something that's conveniently forgotten I think by those convinced he was involved in Madeleine's disappearance.

 

[mrjitty]

Anyway - there is a big new US trial with all kinds of fascinating legal developments to follow, so I am going to focus on that, as we have indeed discussed all of this many times.

Be interesting to see if anything further happens this summer!

meanwhile, enjoy the heat

 

[onemoremiletogo]

He didn't have time to get rid of or move the large amount of digital material found in 2016, but there was apparently nothing that could be connected to MM in that lot because they only started associating him with her a year later. This is something that's conveniently forgotten I think by those convinced he was involved in Madeleine's disappearance.

I guess he was interviewed by police in 2013 in relation to MM.

 

[Pixie Child]

MWT’s hypothesis gives him away IMO. He ‘uncovered’ an ‘alibi’ that the girl CB was having a fling with couldn’t account for his whereabouts on the night of the abduction.

He then waffled on about how this ‘alibi’ somehow indicates he didn’t commit the crime during the time that the ‘alibi’ can’t vouch for.

A very drunk person repeatedly spinning around on a park roundabout, wearing a fancy dress police officer outfit, 2 days into a 3 day stag party, wouldn’t even come to the same conclusion MWT did. Point being, MWT’s theory is IMO incredibly …….. (another word for stupid)

Ultimately MWT is a former cop and passes all info back to BKA.

CB/FF has used MWT to put out an alibi that he himself may not present in his own Defence (because he likely won’t answer police questions nor give evidence at trial).

It all helps to stimulate witness memories.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

It all helps to stimulate witness memories.

And to create false memories.

 

[Pixie Child]

And to create false memories.

It’s so long ago - any witness of value would need to be able to prove their whereabouts or those of CB/ALE with a photo or a saved message.

 

[Okapi]

Not much heat in this hemisphere lol

“In 2016, investigators conducted multiple searches of a deserted factory deep in the woods of Saxony Anhalt, Germany which Brueckner once owned….these searches were part of a broad investigation into child . “
Do USB drives found buried beneath a dead dog hold the clue to what may have happened to Madeleine McCann?

BBM

Germany investigates 30,000 suspects over paedophile network


It takes considerable time and human resources to trawl through vile content and investigate other networks. This may be a factor in the MM investigation lag.

Obviously, investigators would hope to locate an incriminating photo or video. But the search might also lead to another miscreant whose “allegiances have now changed”’ as someone posted upthread.

 

[Consider Dudley]

MWT’s hypothesis gives him away IMO. He ‘uncovered’ an ‘alibi’ that the girl CB was having a fling with couldn’t account for his whereabouts on the night of the abduction.

He then waffled on about how this ‘alibi’ somehow indicates he didn’t commit the crime during the time that the ‘alibi’ can’t vouch for.

A very drunk person repeatedly spinning around on a park roundabout, wearing a fancy dress police officer outfit, 2 days into a 3 day stag party, wouldn’t even come to the same conclusion MWT did. Point being, MWT’s theory is IMO incredibly …….. (another word for stupid)

I agree, there was no logic to MWT’s conclusion that CB had an alibi for the night in question, nevertheless I do believe CB attempted to foist one on him which he appears to have accepted uncritically l

 

[Mex]

IMO CB won’t have a valid alibi. IMO it’s possible he’s apprehensive about constructing one (at this point) perhaps because of the things he may have said in 2013. Running the risk of contradicting himself would likely work against him. Hence a loose non-alibi to a journalist who likes to run with the controversial. JMO

I agree with that.

It is my opinion that had CB a valid alibi, he would still be serving his time in a German jail but not as the prime suspect in a murder inquiry and BKA and prosecutors would have closed the book on him