Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #36

[Davieson]

I've come to the conclusion that most, if not all media sources have to be treated with scepticism.

 

[RichardKimble]

Ironic that the headline "Why Madeleine McCann won't ever be found" does not mirror the content of the article, almost as if to reinforce the way the sensationalist media works!

Webslueths hold that the Sun is not an approved source, any issues you have would be best addressed to admin.

 

[Consider Dudley]

Direct from the horse's mouth - At 4 minutes MWT claims that CB has corresponded with him and provided MWT with an alibi

 

[Consider Dudley]

Webslueths hold that the Sun is not an approved source, any issues you have would be best addressed to admin.

I never quoted the Sun and accept that the Sun is not an approved source on this forum, but IMO dismissing everything they report as unreliable is illogical, you may as well include the Mirror, the Star, the Express and the Mail too. Why single out the Sun, unless you're a Liverpool supporter of course....

 

[Davieson]

Direct from the horse's mouth - At 4 minutes MWT claims that CB has corresponded with him and provided MWT with an alibi

Which just goes to show that it's unwise to believe what somebody says just because its in a documentary. IMO

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Which just goes to show that it's unwise to believe what somebody says just because its in a documentary. IMO

LOL Here is directly from his mouth...
But so, nothing is true, all parts, all media lies, what's left to believe in? Thinking that way, I would not be here.

 

[Davieson]

LOL Here is directly from his mouth...
But so, nothing is true, all parts, all media lies, what's left to believe in? Thinking that way, I would not be here.

All media outlets have an agenda they wish to push.So its more a case of analysing what is said, looking for mis-quotes, contradictions and mis-information. and deciding what you choose to believe. IMO

 

[Anxala]

I've come to the conclusion that most, if not all media sources have to be treated with scepticism.

I think the only source of info that can be trusted here is HCW. Horse's mouth. We don't necessarily have to believe every word out of his mouth, we can be sceptical if we feel scepticism is warranted, but we can at least be assured that what we hear from him is coming unadulterated from him and not something that's passed through media spin machines.

I've no time whatsoever for any of the journos/doc makers who've positioned themselves authoritively at the centre of this case from the off and have flogged it to flexible death ever since.

 

[Consider Dudley]

Which just goes to show that it's unwise to believe what somebody says just because its in a documentary. IMO

Do you think it possible or likely that MWT made up the correspondence and alibi upon which he based much of his documentary then?

 

[Consider Dudley]

LOL Here is directly from his mouth...
But so, nothing is true, all parts, all media lies, what's left to believe in? Thinking that way, I would not be here.

One thing that strikes me as odd is that people don’t believe HCW when he says he has concrete evidence but believe him when he says what evidence he doesn’t have. How do they know he isn’t lying on both counts? That will put your head in a spin - lol!

 

[Consider Dudley]

All media outlets have an agenda they wish to push.So its more a case of analysing what is said, looking for mis-quotes, contradictions and mis-information. and deciding what you choose to believe. IMO

The Mirror and the Sun quoted MWT correctly, so do we believe them but not him, him but not them, none of them or all of them? I guess we pick and choose to suit what we believe these days…

 

[Davieson]

The Mirror and the Sun quoted MWT correctly, so do we believe them but not him, him but not them, none of them or all of them? I guess we pick and choose to suit what we believe these days…

Indeed we do. Some are more selective than others.

 

[Davieson]

One thing that strikes me as odd is that people don’t believe HCW when he says he has concrete evidence but believe him when he says what evidence he doesn’t have. How do they know he isn’t lying on both counts? That will put your head in a spin - lol!

I think that's because he clearly states what evidence he hasn't got, but is rather coy over what evidence he does have.
He could of course be deliberately misleading us .

 

[SuperdadV8]

To move our discussion a little bit more back into the direction of the recent investigations. No offence against anybody!

I'm still confused about the patterns of the excavations, that have been made at arade reservoir. Especially the larger trenches seem to be interesting, as they are located around the center of an area, that might have been frequented by humans in the past.

I'm still aware of the reported statement, CB made to Lenta J.

"Pigs do eat human flesh!"

Some of my recent investigations into reports of campers at the algarve brought to light, that wild boars are known for frequenting the area around arade reservoir as well.

And the areas, constantly frequented by campers should be very interesting for these kind of animals, according to rests of food, empty food packings etc..

They do eat human flesh, of course. But there are some things, that they won't be able of digesting in a short period of time.

So my question is, were they looking for teeth or traces of teeth, maybe by excavating larger areas who seem to be places, wild animals use to excrete their excrements? They should be able of extracting DNA from fragments of teeth, aren't they?

Just a thought.....

 

[onemoremiletogo]

To move our discussion a little bit more back into the direction of the recent investigations. No offence against anybody!

I'm still confused about the patterns of the excavations, that have been made at arade reservoir. Especially the larger trenches seem to be interesting, as they are located around the center of an area, that might have been frequented by humans in the past.

I'm still aware of the reported statement, CB made to Lenta J.

"Pigs do eat human flesh!"

Some of my recent investigation into reports of campers at the algarve brought to light, that wild boars are known for frequenting the area around arade reservoir as well.

And the areas, constantly frequented by campers should be very interesting for these kind of animals, according to rests of food, empty food packings etc..

They do eat human flesh, of course. But there are some things, that they won't be able of digesting in a short period of time.

So my question is, were they looking for teeth or traces of teeth, maybe by excavating larger areas who seem to be places, wild animals use to excrete their excrements? They should be able of extracting DNA from fragments of teeth, aren't they?

Just a thought.....

IMO CB wouldn't risk that uncertainty/dispersion with that option to destruct the body.
IMO he may have heard that from JC's case which was terribly investigated and "concluded". In fact, we was close to Figueira...maybe too close...

 

[Davieson]

To move our discussion a little bit more back into the direction of the recent investigations. No offence against anybody!

I'm still confused about the patterns of the excavations, that have been made at arade reservoir. Especially the larger trenches seem to be interesting, as they are located around the center of an area, that might have been frequented by humans in the past.

I'm still aware of the reported statement, CB made to Lenta J.

"Pigs do eat human flesh!"

Some of my recent investigations into reports of campers at the algarve brought to light, that wild boars are known for frequenting the area around arade reservoir as well.

And the areas, constantly frequented by campers should be very interesting for these kind of animals, according to rests of food, empty food packings etc..

They do eat human flesh, of course. But there are some things, that they won't be able of digesting in a short period of time.

So my question is, were they looking for teeth or traces of teeth, maybe by excavating larger areas who seem to be places, wild animals use to excrete their excrements? They should be able of extracting DNA from fragments of teeth, aren't they?

Just a thought.....

If wild pigs roam the general area, then a body left pretty much anywhere in the area would come to their attention and any remains could be scattered far and wide. It needn't just be in a camping area.
A difficult task to find and recover them, I would think.

 

[SuperdadV8]

IMO CB wouldn't risk that uncertainty/dispersion with that option to destruct the body.
IMO he may have heard that from JC's case which was terribly investigated and "concluded". In fact, we was close to Figueira...maybe too close...

Of course. There is a kind of possibility that CB learned earlier before, how to "destroy" evidence, or most of the evidence, successfully!

Pigs are able to crush and digest bone, of course. But teeth should leave their system more likely, than bone ???

 

[SuperdadV8]

Looks like as if there is a procedure existing for a short period of time, to extract DNA from a tooth without destroying the sample itself.....?!

So, just a small fragment of enamel or root would be enough for the forensics at last?

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[Davieson]

Of course. There is a kind of possibility that CB learned earlier before, how to "destroy" evidence, or most of the evidence, successfully!

Pigs are able to crush and digest bone, of course. But teeth should leave their system more likely, than bone ???

I don't know how resilient teeth are, but if they've passed through the digestive system of a pig, then they're likely to be spread over a wide area

 

[Lyall0814]

Well if they were thinking something like that before they searched there, Superdad, they won't be thinking it now. Imo.