Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #4

[Midwestmom2019]

Can you link to the article or quote it I can't see it. Thanks.

If the 'biological evidence' is the DNA sample from the bed sheets, it has been reported in many reports but seems to be speculation. German police have not confirmed anything to place him at the scene...they would have charged him if there was.

Sounds like the German judicial system is extremely tight. They have to have everything or they won’t move forward. Perfection. I’m ok with that, bc let’s get him with no mistakes.

 

[photographer4]

Sounds like the German judicial system is extremely tight. They have to have everything or they won’t move forward. Perfection. I’m ok with that, bc let’s get him with no mistakes.

If they can't get him, are they able to send what they have to Portugal where the crime took place and have THEM get him for it?

 

[Midwestmom2019]

If they can't get him, are they able to send what they have to Portugal where the crime took place and have THEM get him for it?

Germans keep their citizens and prosecute their crimes themselves. It was posted here, a bit ago. My bigger concern is a statute of limitations? Swiss have a 15 year limit. What about Germany? USA has no time limit for murder.

ETA spell check corrected.

ETA: Would the world trust Portugal to prosecute him? No. He’d be free before the trial even started bc of some bungling procedural rule. He’s arguing error in procedure for his appeal on the 72 yr old female rape that he was convicted of.
Hmm. Maybe that’s why the Germans are extremely careful this time.

 

[tedtink]

NEW- Interesting that they're still working on this theory.

A hotel employee may have helped Christian Brückner target the apartment where Madeleine McCann was asleep, knowing that her parents had gone out to a nearby tapas restaurant, according to German police in charge of the inquiry

Hotel worker may have helped Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brückner | News | The Sunday Times

 

[Ardoch]

just follow the money.
there are two things a person needs/wants..money and their 'interests'. If they can do both at once then its a big motivator.
IMO he either fled the scene after mixing his 'interests' with his 'job' of stealing to eek out a living..OR
he made some serious $ on 3 occasions..all shortly followed by him leaving the area.
(the last one was due to arrest)

Finally, WHY did he always seem to have some sort of second property?..and HOW did he afford to acquire it?..on the proceeds of stealing?..not likely...but from drug dealing?- possibly..

As far as i know, his first trip to PdL was because a 'friend' told him that was the place to be.. Of course it could be just for a job, but im sure there are plenty of jobs to be had in
Germany..

Conflicting stories on MSM saying that he either ran or owned the kiosk too.
I don't believe he had anything planned at 19 yrs. Going to Portugal (with a girlfriend) was an escape both literally and metaphorically imo

 

[tedtink]

Conflicting stories on MSM saying that he either ran or owned the kiosk too.
I don't believe he had anything planned at 19 yrs. Going to Portugal (with a girlfriend) was an escape both literally and metaphorically imo

Also a kiosk in Germany is sometimes just a little street shack ...........tiny.

 

[tedtink]

Conflicting stories on MSM saying that he either ran or owned the kiosk too.
I don't believe he had anything planned at 19 yrs. Going to Portugal (with a girlfriend) was an escape both literally and metaphorically imo

Portugal - a very popular destination for German back packers.

 

[Baciagalupo]

But he said they knew MM was dead. He was talking about a concrete case and not abstract things. Dishonorable for a State Prosecutor.

He did not.
I tried to made that clear here several times but to no avail...

 

[LittleRose]

Cops investigating Christian B searching for letters he may have written mentioning Madeleine McCann - Popular Crime

Police believe he had many, many lovers and may have written about MM in letters...

 

[sleuth-d-]

IMO The German Police have been pressured into making this statement. The MET and MM's parents want the evidence but they cannot possibly divulge this evidence to them, hence the back tracking.

whatever the reason it looks very unprofessional. and doesn't add to the german LE's credibility if they are being pressurised to change statements about their own investigation.

i couldn't believe it when i read it. the guy sounds out of his depth. giving personal opinions is not necessary in his position, in an official press release, with the world's media publishing his every word.

 

[Tim N]

Conflicting stories on MSM saying that he either ran or owned the kiosk too.
I don't believe he had anything planned at 19 yrs. Going to Portugal (with a girlfriend) was an escape both literally and metaphorically imo

yeah thats a possibility but what at 19 are you escaping from?..and why would you go to a place that is known for its family tourism?
he was already a known sex offender..they only go to places where they may have victims.
Still, your theory is as good as mine.

 

[sleuth-d-]

Child killer Martin Ney 'not a Madeleine McCann suspect'

I agree,the picture in this link isnt a bad one,but even zooming right in it's hard to tell,I would say dull blue rather than green but couldn't be certain

certainly someone could say that person had green eyes, rather than say, brown. a quick sample in photoshop gives dull grey / yellow green. r85g87b76
caveat, no telling how colour accurate the original image is.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

So many q's maybe one day we'll all find out.
He's just been VERY lucky IMO - always on the move, evading law though circumstances - Just a low life dealer, part time worker, scratching around for a living, gigolo, depraved paedo.

MO too.
He did a lot. He did again. Chaotic and contradictory profile in a broad spectrum.
Caught by the simplest. Escaping from more complex scenes.
Desorganized but just "pure" luck?!
Police: enough presence, visibility and reaction? ... the villas, resorts, hotels, that strange feeling of relax and false security. A boost in perp's confidence to do and repeat it in a very well known area. And what an area....

 

[sleuth-d-]

yeah thats a possibility but what at 19 are you escaping from?..and why would you go to a place that is known for its family tourism?
he was already a known sex offender..they only go to places where they may have victims.
Still, your theory is as good as mine.

1995 - CB went to Portugal to escape from the German youth custody sentence, according to more than one account.
1999 - the Germans got him back to serve the sentence.

eta
link
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brückner fled police in 1995

 

[Tim N]

Sounds like the German judicial system is extremely tight. They have to have everything or they won’t move forward. Perfection. I’m ok with that, bc let’s get him with no mistakes.

It is. Very. It's a mature and thoriugh

1995 - CB went to Portugal to escape from the German youth custody sentence, according to more than one account.
1999 - the Germans got him back to serve the sentence.

He still had to go somewhere that offered him a benefit.
Oddly enough there were no abductions during the time he was extradited and 2 abductions he is linked to that occurred whilst on the run.
Of particular interest was that neither occurred on Germany.
This is probably because he would've been apprehended if entering the country.(?)

Even if we write off the first movements as pure chance, it becomes less likely that it was based on what occurred next.
In probability terms u could argue that him being in pdl was chance..50/50.
But add the layers of other 'chance' events and each layer becomes less chancey.
In isolation any of these instances can be explained by coincidence.
I think.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Could he be picking up drugs in pdl to take to Germany? Is that why he turned up in pdl in the first place?

 

[Miya]

Germans keep their citizens and prosecute their crimes themselves. It was posted here, a bit ago. My bigger concern is a statute of limitations? Swiss have a 15 year limit. What about Germany? USA has no time limit for murder.

No time limit for murder in Germany. There is the problem though that - especially if it happened a long time ago - if they can't prove murder, they can only prosecute for manslaughter, and there is a time limit on that, not sure, 15 or 20 years. Has happened before, when a rich young man killed his pregnant (poor) girlfriend because his father didn't want him to marry her. Everybody in the village knew what had happened, but it took police around 20 years to be able to prosecute him, but only for manslaughter, he was convicted but never had to serve one day in prison. This is different though because it at least obviously would involve kidnapping a child.

And to the people who think that German police said they know that she is dead - they never said that, they said they think, assume, etc.

 

[sleuth-d-]

Could he be picking up drugs in pdl to take to Germany? Is that why he turned up in pdl in the first place?

strong possibility, or just to work drugs around the algarve.
"In the 1990s, Portugal faced one of the highest prevalence rates for overdose deaths and problematic drug use in Europe"
https://www.drugpolicy.org/sites/de...portugal-health-human-centered-approach_0.pdf

might also be the reason he kept going back.
"Cannabis in Portugal is decriminalized, as a result of the decriminalization of all drugs in Portugal in 2001"
Cannabis in Portugal - Wikipedia

 

[Lyndaloo]

Resort worker 'saw German child killer' around time Madeleine McCann vanished

A former resort worker has told how they saw triple child killer Martin Ney in Praia da Luz around the time that Madeleine McCann vanished.

The worker said German Ney, named yesterday as a possible suspect in Madeleine’s case, stared “intently” at them and female friends as they drank in a bar in the Algarve town.

They recognised him after seeing his photograph in our sister paper, the Sunday Mirror.

Ney was there “for a fact”, the source, who asked not to be named, said.

The ex-Mark Warner employee, who worked at the Ocean Club resort where the McCann’s were staying, saw Ney soon after arriving in Portugal in April 2007.

They also saw him in the Baptista supermarket, a stone’s throw from the family’s holiday apartment.

Interesting that he was seen in Baptista supermarket, I’m sure they had a back door which was very near apt 5a......just a thought.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

This post lands at random.

This thread is NOT a general discussion thread. It is specifically for discussion of CB as suspect #2.

This thread is not to bring up and rehash all the old discussions (including victim bashing or discussing the McCanns again). If you bring old information to the discussion, you must be able to state how you think it relates to this current discussion of CB as a suspect.