Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #4

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I am curious about how common it is for sexual offenders to vary between age groups as this man seems to have done. He has a conviction for child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 and also rape of 72 year old? Does this actually make it more difficult to link crimes?
 
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  • #342
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I am curious about how common it is for sexual offenders to vary between age groups as this man seems to have done. He has a conviction for child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 and also rape of 72 year old? Does this actually make it more difficult to link crimes?
Sorry.
Yeah, the thing that keeps bothering me about this is the fact that he doesn't seem to have a pattern. He steals, he sells drugs, he rapes older women, he beats his girlfriends and then, he abducts a 3-year-old girl, and then another boy, and then another girl, and then he's suspected of doing something to a 16-year-old girl? It's confusing.
 
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I am curious about how common it is for sexual offenders to vary between age groups as this man seems to have done. He has a conviction for child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 and also rape of 72 year old? Does this actually make it more difficult to link crimes?

IMO it would make it harder to link the crimes. My theory is that he is a sexual sadist and enjoys the control of the victim, the fear. For that he would just need the victim to be vulnerable and someone he could control. So a child, or a woman at home alone, age not completely relevant. From what I've read that's rare, only a very small percentage of sex offenders are sadistic.
 
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  • #344
Watched it last night and it's very upsetting.

So sad to hear Kate's letter around the 10th anniversary. She has always struck me as just managing to stay back from cliff edge.
 
  • #345
This is ace. Can you keep adding to it as new news comes in, and make sure it goes on page 1 of each new thread?

No pressure, haha!

As much as I aspire to be like Gardner1850- I am not. I do have it as a doc on my PC, so I will update as possible. I am most interested in how many of these "suggested" possible links hold any water. I can see that two suggested ones (Rene H and Monika P) appear to have already been looked at and dismissed.

I wish more reliable news sources in the UK were offering better coverage. I expect People Mag in the US to offer a summary since the MM case was also huge over here.

I would like to outline dates when he was incarcerated and outline when he was dating girlfriends who have come forward (anonymously or with initials like N Miftari). I'll see what I can keep up and repost as there are new developments.
 
  • #346
As much as I aspire to be like Gardner1850- I am not. I do have it as a doc on my PC, so I will update as possible. I am most interested in how many of these "suggested" possible links hold any water. I can see that two suggested ones (Rene H and Monika P) appear to have already been looked at and dismissed.

I wish more reliable news sources in the UK were offering better coverage. I expect People Mag in the US to offer a summary since the MM case was also huge over here.

I would like to outline dates when he was incarcerated and outline when he was dating girlfriends who have come forward (anonymously or with initials like N Miftari). I'll see what I can keep up and repost as there are new developments.

You are now Official Keeper Of The Timeline!
 
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Madeleine McCann suspect's ex-girlfriend says police must find secret third car
''A crucial third vehicle that could help solve the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been linked to suspect Christian Brueckner.

His British ex girlfriend says the German paedophile was driving the battered Volkswagen estate around the time the three-year-old vanished.

Detectives investigating Brueckner’s potential involvement released images of two vehicles linked to him – a black Jaguar and a two-tone camper van.

But now his ex has sensationally revealed he owned a third car, details of which have never been made public.

The woman, from Berkshire, said he began driving the estate in mid-2005, two years before Madeleine disappeared.

He also owned the black Jaguar at this time but had not yet bought the camper van featured in police photographs.

His ex has been interviewed about the vehicles Brueckner was driving, but is unsure if she mentioned the VW estate to cops.''
 
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Madeleine McCann suspect's ex-girlfriend says police must find secret third car
''A crucial third vehicle that could help solve the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been linked to suspect Christian Brueckner.

His British ex girlfriend says the German paedophile was driving the battered Volkswagen estate around the time the three-year-old vanished.

Detectives investigating Brueckner’s potential involvement released images of two vehicles linked to him – a black Jaguar and a two-tone camper van.

But now his ex has sensationally revealed he owned a third car, details of which have never been made public.

The woman, from Berkshire, said he began driving the estate in mid-2005, two years before Madeleine disappeared.

He also owned the black Jaguar at this time but had not yet bought the camper van featured in police photographs.

His ex has been interviewed about the vehicles Brueckner was driving, but is unsure if she mentioned the VW estate to cops.''

A mustard yellow estate car is pretty distinctive. Hopefully it might prompt a few more tips.

Something like this?

volkswagen-passat-1973-1975-1494667855.37.jpg
 
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  • #349
Thanks j-in-c for putting that together. I think he was born in 1976 - I've read that a few times.
 
  • #350
Sorry I disagree it was just down to laziness and protecting tourism. There is generally not much DNA left at rape scenes. No police knew the details of the rape until 2017 when someone saw the video and told them. If you look into who in Europe has the worst record on rape convictions it is not the Portuguese, the figures are terrible in many countries including England which is right at the bottom.


I actually think a rape could leave a lot of evidence (if not washed of by the victim afterwards or cleaned up by the perp).

In my opinion the problem with rape cases are that they boil do to the consent issue and that's what makes them hard to prove.

But I am no expert and could have it wrong.


This prep however, seems to wear specific clothing to help limit this potential for DNA. But all you need is one hair.

MOO
 
  • #351
Thanks j-in-c for putting that together. I think he was born in 1976 - I've read that a few times.

I edited timeline (will repost) but if you have a non sun/mirror source - please link it and i'll add it!
 
  • #352
Maybe an old VW Passat? My dad had one of those. Cringe
 
  • #353
So sad to hear Kate's letter around the 10th anniversary. She has always struck me as just managing to stay back from cliff edge.

Absolutely. I genuinely believe the twins are all that saving her. I feel absolutely terrible for her. Cannot even fathom the guilt she must feel. I hope she finds peace and an ability to forgive herself and free herself from the constant stress and pain she must feel.
 
  • #354
Attempted to create a more detailed timeline with all the suggested "possible" crime links along with news if they have been disregarded. I avoided using Sun/Mirror/DM as direct sources whenever possible. Please update if you have more sourced dates (or better sources):

Childhood information sourced from this link below:
Pictured: adoptive mother of Madeleine McCann, first suspect, Christian Brueckner | FR24 News English
1977 - Born and adopted as an infant by B & F Brueckner in Würzburg, Germany
1992 (?) - Christian’s disruptive and increasingly criminal behavior and deal with her disabled husband who suffered brain damage and was confined to a wheelchair after the crash
1992-94 - Between 1992 – when he was 16 – and 1994, he lived in an institution for young people with learning difficulties

Unless another link is provided, the date and information is from this article:
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brückner: a timeline
1994 - Convicted of sexual abuse of a child, attempted sexual abuse of a child, and carrying out sexual acts in front of a child.
1995-2007 - Police said the suspect lived in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007 apart from brief spells in Germany
Madeleine McCann suspect investigated over 2015 disappearance of German girl
1995 - Flees to Portugal as an 18-year-old to escape a two-year youth custody sentence for the above offences.
1996 - Carola Titze, 16, found murdered in De Haan, Belgium. Possibly linked to CB.
Did Madeleine McCann suspect kill these three youngsters? - Metro Newspaper UK
1996 - René Hasse, a six-year-old boy in the Algarve, goes missing. Possibly linked to CB. Family contacted, but latest news suggests no link (see 2nd article)
Madeleine McCann suspect investigated over two other missing children – reports
Germans 'have evidence' Madeleine McCann was killed by new suspect
1999 - Returns to Germany to serve a youth custody sentence he had escaped.
2001 - Peggy Knobloch (9) disappears on her way home from school in Bayreuth, Germany. Possible link to CB
Police reviewing disappearance of another German girl in light of new Madeleine McCann suspect.
2004-5 - Dates an English woman in Praia da Luz, Portugal.
2004 - Hazel Behan sexually assaulted in Algarve. Her attacker may be CB. Portuguese police appear to deny any link.
Irish woman raped in Portugal believes attacker may be Madeleine McCann suspect | The Irish Post
2005 - Rapes a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz.
2006- Portuguese authorities drop the rape investigation due to lack of evidence.
2006- Arrested and convicted for stealing diesel fuel in Portugal.
2007- Madeleine McCann disappears from Praia da Luz.
2007- Buys marihuana and hashish and sells it to a middle-man on the northern German island of Sylt, where it is sold on.
2010- Monika Pawlak, a 24-year-old sex worker, found murdered in Hanover. DM suggests possible link, article listed below suggests no link.
Germans 'have evidence' Madeleine McCann was killed by new suspect
2012- Opens a kiosk in Braunschweig, in north-west Germany.
2013- McCanns appeal to the German public on TV for evidence over Madeleine’s disappearance. Brückner’s name crops up in connection with the case.
2013 - September - Documents seen by Der Spiegel said that in that year, he had fantasised about kidnapping and sexually abusing a child in an online chat with a friend.In September 2013, he allegedly wrote that he wanted to “catch something small and use it for days“, and then destroy the evidence.
Madeleine McCann suspect investigated over 2015 disappearance of German girl
2015 - May - Inga Gehricke goes missing - LE investigating possibly link to CB
"The Volksstimme newspaper reported that he owned an abandoned property in Neuwegersleben, around 57 miles from where Inga went missing"
"The home was reportedly searched as part of a child abuse investigation in 2016, with officers finding a USB stick containing indecent images."
Madeleine McCann suspect investigated over 2015 disappearance of German girl
Madeleine McCann suspect investigated over two other missing children – reports
2017- Convicted of sexual abuse of a child in Germany and sentenced to 15 months in prison.
2018-Arrested in Milan and returned to Germany.
2019- August – charged with the rape of a US citizen (from 2005).
2019 - December – convicted. Sentenced to seven years for the rape. Prison term not yet started pending an appeal that the conviction was unlawful but he is being held in police custody.
CB interest in car mechanics, adoptive father disabled after a car crash. What is known about the car accident?
 
  • #355
I actually think a rape could leave a lot of evidence (if not washed of by the victim afterwards or cleaned up by the perp).
In my opinion the problem with rape cases are that they boil do to the consent issue and that's what makes them hard to prove.
But I am no expert and could have it wrong.

This prep however, seems to wear specific clothing to help limit this potential for DNA. But all you need is one hair.
The cases under discussion here couldn't be any further from "the consent issue", so I can't imagine why you would bring that up.
 
  • #356
I wonder if this man was mentally handicapped? I don't mean your usual psychopath. It could address why we are so confused with the inconsistency of his crimes etc
I also find the preying on girlfriends thing super odd, hiding under her bed to attack her? Normally partners are spared and it's often a double life type situation where they have been none the wiser.
It would explain how we can't make "sense" of much of his actions. He's just an off the wall, erratic, anything goes type.
 
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Updated with dates and ages of potential (some already denied) victims

Childhood information sourced from this link below:
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/...mccann-first-suspect-christian-brueckner.html
1976(?) - Born in Bavaria and adopted as an infant by B & F Brueckner in Würzburg, Germany
1990(?) - Father's car accident when he was 13-14yrs old.
Christian’s disruptive and increasingly criminal behavior and deal with her disabled husband who suffered brain damage and was confined to a wheelchair after the crash
1992-94 - Between 1992 – when he was 16 – and 1994, he lived in an institution for young people with learning difficulties

Unless another link is provided, the date and information is from this article:
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brückner: a timeline
1994 - Convicted of sexual abuse of a child, attempted sexual abuse of a child, and carrying out sexual acts in front of a child.
1995-2007 - Police said the suspect lived in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007 apart from brief spells in Germany
Madeleine McCann suspect investigated over 2015 disappearance of German girl
1995 - Flees to Portugal as an 18-year-old to escape a two-year youth custody sentence for the above offences.
1996 June 19- René Hasse (6) boy in the Algarve, goes missing. Possibly linked to CB. Family contacted, but latest news suggests no link (see 2nd article)
Madeleine McCann suspect investigated over two other missing children – reports
Germans 'have evidence' Madeleine McCann was killed by new suspect
1996 June 28- Carola Titze (16), found murdered in De Haan, Belgium. Possibly linked to CB.
Did Madeleine McCann suspect kill these three youngsters? - Metro Newspaper UK
1999 - Returns to Germany to serve a youth custody sentence he had escaped.
2001 May 7- Peggy Knobloch (9) disappears on her way home from school in Bayreuth, Germany. Possible link to CB.
Police reviewing disappearance of another German girl in light of new Madeleine McCann suspect.
2001 June 18 - Louise Kerton (24) UK student nurse goes missing from Aachen Germany.Family wants link investigated, so far no mention by LE if it any link is being looked at.
Father of missing Louise Kerton wants Madeleine McCann suspect questioned
2004-5 - Dates an English woman in Praia da Luz, Portugal. More information provided by ex-girlfriend in this article:
Madeleine McCann suspect linked to THIRD vehicle - new details made public for first time
2004 - Hazel Behan(20) sexually assaulted in Algarve. Her attacker may be CB. Portuguese police appear to deny any link.
Irish woman raped in Portugal believes attacker may be Madeleine McCann suspect | The Irish Post
2005 - Rapes an American woman(72) in Praia da Luz.
2006- Portuguese authorities drop the rape investigation due to lack of evidence.
2006- Arrested and convicted for stealing diesel fuel in Portugal.
2007- Madeleine McCann (3) disappears from Praia da Luz.
2007- Buys marihuana and hashish and sells it to a middle-man on the northern German island of Sylt, where it is sold on.
2010- Monika Pawlak (24), sex worker, found murdered in Hanover. DM suggests possible link, article listed below suggests no link.
Germans 'have evidence' Madeleine McCann was killed by new suspect
2012- Opens a kiosk in Braunschweig, in north-west Germany.
~2012-2015 (?) - In a relationship with NM, now under police protection
Madeleine McCann: Hunt for suspect's ex who he 'beat black and blue' | Metro News
2013- McCanns appeal to the German public on TV for evidence over Madeleine’s disappearance. Brückner’s name crops up in connection with the case.
2013 - September - Documents seen by Der Spiegel said that in that year, he had fantasised about kidnapping and sexually abusing a child in an online chat with a friend.In September 2013, he allegedly wrote that he wanted to “catch something small and use it for days“, and then destroy the evidence.
Madeleine McCann suspect investigated over 2015 disappearance of German girl
2015 - May 2- Inga Gehricke (5) goes missing - LE investigating possibly link to CB
"The Volksstimme newspaper reported that he owned an abandoned property in Neuwegersleben, around 57 miles from where Inga went missing"
"The home was reportedly searched as part of a child abuse investigation in 2016, with officers finding a USB stick containing indecent images."
Madeleine McCann suspect investigated over 2015 disappearance of German girl
Madeleine McCann suspect investigated over two other missing children – reports
2017- Convicted of sexual abuse of a child in Germany and sentenced to 15 months in prison.
2018-Arrested in Milan and returned to Germany.
2019- August – charged with the rape of a US citizen (from 2005).
2019 - December – convicted. Sentenced to seven years for the rape. Prison term not yet started pending an appeal that the conviction was unlawful but he is being held in police custody.
2020 June 4- German Police announce CB as possible suspect in Mccann's disappearance
Police announce new suspect in 2007 disappearance of Madeleine McCann
 
  • #358
The cases under discussion here couldn't be any further from "the consent issue", so I can't imagine why you would bring that up.


I was replying to another poster who wrote :

"If you look into who in Europe has the worst record on rape convictions it is not the Portuguese, the figures are terrible in many countries including England which is right at the bottom."

So my reply was to give my opinion, that it isn't mainly the lack of DNA in rape cases but the consent issue that produces these dismal low rape convictions.

That's why I brought it up.

MOO
 
  • #359
I know poly's are not credible but can they at least subject him to that? After all these years it's hard to believe this suspect is plausible, but if he is anything any little info would help.
 
  • #360
I wonder if this man was mentally handicapped? I don't mean your usual psychopath. It could address why we are so confused with the inconsistency of his crimes etc
I also find the preying on girlfriends thing super odd, hiding under her bed to attack her. Normally partners are spared and it's often a double life type situation where they have been none the wiser.
It would explain how we can't make "sense" of much of his actions. He's just an off the wall, erratic, anything goes type.
To me, this was a man in unbelievable emotional agony and repressed rage. He was given up for adoption to a children’s home by his birth mother. He may have felt rejected and abandoned. He said he was beaten by his adoptive father. He said he had a sad childhood. Did he feel love from his adoptive mother? Reportedly, she has no relationship with any of the three sons she adopted. When the adoptive father was injured in the car accident, it was reported CB was sent to a school for (troubled) kids with learning disabilities. This would have triggered more feelings of rejection and abandonment.

Its clear he hates women of any age. He destroys the children (raping and murdering them) as his own childhood was destroyed. He seeks love from his girlfriends but simultaneously destroys the relationships with cheating, jealousy and abuse. Finally, he’s seeking relationships with older women, looking for a mother figure. His ex wondered if he was sleeping with some of them, and he ends up raping one (rage).

He’s a tortured soul...
 
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