Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #41

[Denis R Tandib]

So would you consider him an accomplice to someone else?

I am open to that. As I mentioned in the original post, he’s the kind of person that could get involved prior or more likely after MM disappeared. And this could be where HCW’s email evidence comes in - organising or planning something.

I am not necessarily saying this is what happened but rather tying loose threads to justify the prosecutors evidence.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I don't understand why anyone would report you. You've always backed up your very reasonable position with known facts, most of which I share/agree with, the primary one being that there's still not a shred of evidence to support an abduction. There just isn't and no amount of whataboutery and/or 'if you knew what I know, then you too etc' changes that.

If HCW and Co come good and get the charge and trial they so want, I of course will remain open to hearing what it is they have that conclusively proves that that's what happened and that CB is the one who did it. If they deliver on that, then of course I'll accept that, as I'm sure you will too.

But, in the current absence of any of that, it's so strange to me that asking for/needing proof before 'picking a side' and/or coming to a conclusion, is a position regarded as suspect on here, let alone so suspect as to warrant hitting the report button.

Thanks.

To me it’s logical to want to see/hear the evidence to understand if it is as compelling as it’s been billed - I am very doubtful it is.

We know there is no physical evidence that CB was responsible. The launch of a campaign to prove CB was the culprit was an orchestrated event. We know the prosecutors have been releasing info to the media.

I don’t think the communications are consistent with a strong case - it’s like they are continually having to prove to us that CB is the offender - why?

I think we are being sold a lemon but I do think they’ll bolt together a story and we’ll see it in court.

 

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[Mex]

I never said it did, but I don't find the lack of that evidence convincing.

A plausible narative has been constructed by the prosecution, but none of it shows any physical connection between CB and MM.
There's plenty of wishful thinking about compromising photographs and other such digital material, but until it is forthcoming, I remain sceptical of his involvement.

Logic dictates that a definitive conclusion cannot be reached without being in possession of all the facts, all the intelligence and all the evidence.
Therefore scepticism is entirely legitimate.
Not too sure about those sceptics who have used proactive interference and other activities such as has happened in this case

• introducing the prime suspect under investigation into the public domain as having been 'set up' as a 'patsy'
• publicising false information on national tv
  • an image of the suspect - heavily photoshopped
  • an image of a vehicle of interest to the inquiry altered to include the addition of being covered with cartoon characters
  • an eagerness to have the suspect of a child murder released from prison to the extent of enabling it

 

[Mex]

I am open to that. As I mentioned in the original post, he’s the kind of person that could get involved prior or more likely after MM disappeared. And this could be where HCW’s email evidence comes in - organising or planning something.

I am not necessarily saying this is what happened but rather tying loose threads to justify the prosecutors evidence.

The problem with that is that there is no evidence of an accomplice.
Whereas CB is suspected of the murder of a child.

Police and prosecutors can only go with the evidence they have.
My opinion

 

[Denis R Tandib]

The problem with that is that there is no evidence of an accomplice.
Whereas CB is suspected of the murder of a child.

Police and prosecutors can only go with the evidence they have.
My opinion

The problem with that is CB was previously suspected of five other sexual offences - by the same police and prosecutors.

The evidence was completely insufficient and led to an acquittal on all counts.

Until we see the evidence it’s probably best to not jump to any conclusions about where it may lead.

In my original post, I was giving the prosecutors the benefit of the doubt - that they actually have something materially meaningful on CB to justify their actions in the media.

I think it’s more likely that he has nothing to do with the sad affair but again, I am open to him having a support role more than anything else.

 

[Hexe]

Agree. It’s a game of playing pretend detective with a lot of time to do so.

A man in the area, seen lurking at the OC the days before, who was obsessed with abducting very young blond girls, is the prime suspect.

For all I know CB was not officially identified by any of the witnesses.

 

[Davieson]

Shock horror, man seen near supermarket.

 

[Mex]

For all I know CB was not officially identified by any of the witnesses.

With respect; in the absence of knowledge of the evidence in police files it is impossible to quantify which witnesses are relevant and which are not.

For example in 2024 the most recent witness we have heard of who was unknown to

• CB's legal team
• police
• to prosecutors
• and most importantly - to himself

It is not known exactly who else might have relevant information not yet in the public domain.
Without having grasp of the big picture - negative speculation may indeed be counter productive.
My opinion

 

[Denis R Tandib]

With respect; in the absence of knowledge of the evidence in police files it is impossible to quantify which witnesses are relevant and which are not.

For example in 2024 the most recent witness we have heard of who was unknown to

• CB's legal team
• police
• to prosecutors
• and most importantly - to himself

It is not known exactly who else might have relevant information not yet in the public domain.
Without having grasp of the big picture - negative speculation may indeed be counter productive.
My opinion

Ah but in the same scenario positive speculation okay.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Shock horror, man seen near supermarket.

Ugly, weird, dodgy, smelly, suspicious, German paedo type man - Svengali at every corner must’ve been like Vaudeville around 5A at the time.

 

[Hexe]

With respect; in the absence of knowledge of the evidence in police files it is impossible to quantify which witnesses are relevant and which are not.

With respect, when we don't know if he was recognised as a prowler in the OC area, we should not state as fact he prowled there.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Prosecutors in Braunschweig confirmed that an unpaid fine of about 1,450 euros ($1,663) against the suspect — a German national identified by media as Christian Brueckner — has been paid, German news agency dpa reported, without giving further details.

The payment moves forward his potential release date to Sept. 17

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/06/23/portugal-uk-missing-child-suspect-germany/a6edd4aa-5031-11f0-baaa-ba1025f321a8_story.html

 

[Mex]

Ah but in the same scenario positive speculation okay.

Indeed so and there has been no criminal case more than the MM one has been subject to more speculation resulting in obfuscation.

But worse than speculation is the deliberate misuse of the media to propagate factoids which are false from start to finish.
Two of which one has recalled in a previous post

• falsified and unrecognisable image of the suspect
• misleading and falsified images of the suspect's vehicle regarding which investigators were seeking information

Quite extraordinary behaviour in respect of any such interference in an active case, let alone an active case featuring a missing child.
One suggests such disruptive behaviour may well be unique to MM's case as is the sympathy engendered by the suspect at the expense of a child who was abducted when she was three years old.
My opinion

 

[Hexe]

Indeed so and there has been no criminal case more than the MM one has been subject to more speculation resulting in obfuscation.

But worse than speculation is the deliberate misuse of the media to propagate factoids which are false from start to finish.
Two of which one has recalled in a previous post

• falsified and unrecognisable image of the suspect
• misleading and falsified images of the suspect's vehicle regarding which investigators were seeking information

Quite extraordinary behaviour in respect of any such interference in an active case, let alone an active case featuring a missing child.
One suggests such disruptive behaviour may well be unique to MM's case

It is not, tabloids do that all the time.

as is the sympathy engendered by the suspect at the expense of a child who was abducted when she was three years old.

We don't know if she was abducted, do we?

 

[Davieson]

It is not, tabloids do that all the time.




We don't know if she was abducted, do we?

Nor if it was by a dastardly paedophile.

 

[C.greek]

It is not, tabloids do that all the time.




We don't know if she was abducted, do we?

What are you inferring? MM is missing, and the German and Portuguese police have only one suspect related to her disappearance whom we are discussing here.

 

[Davieson]

Abduction has not yet been proved. It is an assumption by police.

 

[Mex]

With respect, when we don't know if he was recognised as a prowler in the OC area, we should not state as fact he prowled there.

Please be assured one has never made such a claim; in fact yours is the first claim to that effect one is aware of.

But that is not to say that at the time there were many recoded incidents might have had a different outcome if handled differently.

Which does recall many missed opportunities to collate information which might have been useful to either

• make a move towards identifying a person of interest, which never happened
• removing people from the inquiry such as the guy carrying his daughter home but not eliminated until SY investigated in 2013

''She claims however, that a week previously she was the victim of an attempted robbery, which was not successful and neither was anything taken, thinking that the crying of the child could be linked to another attempted robbery in the residence.''
Despite being the immediate upstairs neighbour, Mrs Fenn was not interviewed until August 2007. Nor was any description of the home invader she had encountered prior to MM's abduction treated as a priority.
Which may be due to the fact the PJ had already gone down a dead end in their enquiry.

Mrs Fenn's visitor said
''she saw a male individual looking into the McC's apartment, situation which has been told to the police, her family member even made a photo fit"

P.J. POLICE FILES: MRS PAMELA FENN STATEMENT

 

[Lilly b]

Please be assured one has never made such a claim; in fact yours is the first claim to that effect one is aware of.

But that is not to say that at the time there were many recoded incidents might have had a different outcome if handled differently.

Which does recall many missed opportunities to collate information which might have been useful to either

• make a move towards identifying a person of interest, which never happened
• removing people from the inquiry such as the guy carrying his daughter home but not eliminated until SY investigated in 2013

''She claims however, that a week previously she was the victim of an attempted robbery, which was not successful and neither was anything taken, thinking that the crying of the child could be linked to another attempted robbery in the residence.''
Despite being the immediate upstairs neighbour, Mrs Fenn was not interviewed until August 2007. Nor was any description of the home invader she had encountered prior to MM's abduction treated as a priority.
Which may be due to the fact the PJ had already gone down a dead end in their enquiry.

Mrs Fenn's visitor said
''she saw a male individual looking into the McC's apartment, situation which has been told to the police, her family member even made a photo fit"

P.J. POLICE FILES: MRS PAMELA FENN STATEMENT

Does anyone have the photo fit? I can't seem find it think was Mrs fenns niece or granddaughter that helped to do it