Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #5

[Armchair_Defective]

It's a direct quote from the statement posted by KM&GM

Thanks yes. I see it now. I think I'm suffering information overload!

 

[Ardoch]

I know as if to say it was 13 years ago deal with it. I don’t know why HCW continues to feed the media with half stories, that’s the issue here really. Give them an inch and the papers will take a mile. It’s upsetting for us and we aren’t her parents. I’ve lost a few hours sleep thinking about the apparent chat room conversation alone...

My theory was/is that he's courting the press in order to get as much information. But I did consider that surely he would have consulted in private with the family and their lawyer as to what he was going to say.

 

[SouthAussie]

Yeah I thought the same thing when I heard they’d send a letter in the first place. There’s been no sort of compassion or empathy from the Germans so far I feel tbh. It’s quite a disparity from the met, who are keeping as tight lipped as possible to not upset the McCanns any more than necessary at this point. The amount of interviews HCW is dishing out left right and centre. It’s all a bit odd. Maybe it’s a cultural thing. I dunno.

Likely different ways of approaching the matter. imo

While missing William Tyrrell is probably deceased, the Aussie police have many times said that they will continue to investigate as if he is alive .... as they have no proof of William's demise.

Maybe we should just be glad that there is such great exposure at the moment for Madeleine's case. Scotland Yard has received around 400 tips due to the huge media presence.


"German police had announced on Wednesday that they were investigating the suspect, a repeat-offender paedophile currently incarcerated in Germany.
Scotland Yard disclosed on Sunday that it had received about 400 telephone calls and e-mails after a new call for witnesses was launched by German, Portuguese and British police."
Aviation crisis could slow down future need for oil

 

[Scorpiette]

Which I thought was going to be the course of action. Their lawyer goes to Germany and comes back and informs the McCanns of any updates. I was feeling sympathy for all concerned in that meeting.

.. except today MM's parents are saying they are not actively paying any lawyer. Does that mean they've sacked Alves?

 

[Armchair_Defective]

My theory was/is that he's courting the press in order to get as much information. But I did consider that surely he would have consulted in private with the family and their lawyer as to what he was going to say.

I agree with that and maybe further, to try and compensate for the fact that they tipped off CB in 2013. This appeal would be an attempt to get the evidence they need and distract from their previous error.

 

[Chiatos]

Or, the way I read it, there is a letter .... but it does not say that there is evidence or proof that Madeleine is dead.

As the McCann's spokesperson has said there is a letter, I think that there is one.
I can imagine that the police have extended the courtesy to Madeleine's parents of telling them about Bruckner before they had their press conference.

But then their title is peculiar to say the least: The letter is not real.
And what's more: the Mccanns deny having a spokesperson!

 

[Miya]

This is just a 'crude' example of his psychopathology from profilers, which I do believe is correct. ie- He fits that criminal profile.
I'm not in any way defending him, but he could have other co-existing, undiagnosed psychiatric disorders, or he could claim to have them!
We cannot understand people from merely a label - psychological evaluation is very nuanced and I'm sure his will be evaluated by a psychiatrist in good time.

He has been evaluated, that's why there is an expertise. Not saying they won't evaluate him even more, I don't know, but it comes from an expertise and is not just the opinion of just anybody.

 

[SouthAussie]

But then their title is peculiar to say the least: The letter is not real.
And what's more: the Mccanns deny having a spokesperson!

Aren't those Arcnor's words "the letter is not real"?
They are not part of the FB post. Maybe look again. You will see the OP's words are above the image of the FB post.

 

[Ardoch]

This is just a 'crude' example of his psychopathology from profilers, which I do believe is correct. ie- He fits that criminal profile.
I'm not in any way defending him, but he could have other co-existing, undiagnosed psychiatric disorders, or he could claim to have them!
We cannot understand people from merely a label - psychological evaluation is very nuanced and I'm sure his will be evaluated by a psychiatrist in good time.

I would imagine that it's a 'cocktail' of all kinds of mental health/enviromental/stimulant-addictive issues that are going on - not defending him. It seems like he was able to fool people and even hold down however brief, some kind of relationship a well.

 

[Ardoch]

He has been evaluated, that's why there is an expertise. Not saying they won't evaluate him even more, I don't know, but it comes from an expertise and is not just the opinion of just anybody.

Do you have any links to that? Just curious.

 

[Bit of hope]

But then their title is peculiar to say the least: The letter is not real.
And what's more: the Mccanns deny having a spokesperson!

Somebody put it there. In the original statement it's not there. Official Find Madeleine Campaign

 

[Edinlass]

The huge error made in 2013 by German Authorities you would think they would have some compassion and keep quiet until at least they have something concrete, even if they do have evidence of some sort we don’t need to know that they do if they’re not going to say what they have. That leaves the papers / the public open to interpret it in anyway they see fit..

Yet again a media frenzy totally diverting it away from the investigation. Imagine she is, by some small miracle, alive and someone had a suspicion that they may know where she is and them then seeing the authorities have evidence that she is dead, that tip may never be called in. It’s shocking.

 

[tedtink]

Yes, very peculiar. I am 99% sure it said in the Mail's article yesterday that Mitchell had confirmed they had received a letter but it's now been changed to just say Mitchell said the McCanns wont comment of private correspondence.

"Clarence Mitchell, the McCann family spokesman, told The Sun that the letter had been sent but added: “Kate and Gerry simply do not comment on private correspondence received from police and nor will they be giving a running commentary."

Madeleine McCann's parents 'sent letter by police confirming she is dead'

 

[sleuth-d-]

...
Wolters has confirmed that he sent a letter to Gerry and Kate McCann explaining that they have evidence for a murder investigation, but was unable to give any details on the evidence that they have during the ongoing case.
He told the Daily Mail: "I sympathise with the parents but if we reveal more details to them it might jeopardise the investigation. We have concrete evidence that our suspect has killed Madeleine and this means she is dead. We of course really consider the fact that it is going to be very hard for the family when we tell them... But we can’t say why she is dead – it is more important that we are successful and we are able to get the culprit as opposed to just putting our cards on the table and telling them why we think she might be."

this for me is how the german prosecutor should play it. why should he release any details, to anyone if it jeopardises his case.
CB is still a suspect. no one has been arrested. no charges.
sure everyone wants to know every detail, immediately... but the same people will be screaming to the roof tops if the trial is dismissed on a technicality - for instance 'right to a fair trial'.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

"Clarence Mitchell, the McCann family spokesman, told The Sun that the letter had been sent but added: “Kate and Gerry simply do not comment on private correspondence received from police and nor will they be giving a running commentary."

Madeleine McCann's parents 'sent letter by police confirming she is dead'

This could start all sorts of speculation. Clarence Mitchell a former government spin doctor, now not on board with the McCanns?

 

[Dlk79]

"Clarence Mitchell, the McCann family spokesman, told The Sun that the letter had been sent but added: “Kate and Gerry simply do not comment on private correspondence received from police and nor will they be giving a running commentary."

Madeleine McCann's parents 'sent letter by police confirming she is dead'

Thanks. Knew I read it somewhere, still pretty sure they quoted that in the Mail too originally.

 

[Chiatos]

"Clarence Mitchell, the McCann family spokesman, told The Sun that the letter had been sent but added: “Kate and Gerry simply do not comment on private correspondence received from police and nor will they be giving a running commentary."

Madeleine McCann's parents 'sent letter by police confirming she is dead'

This item by The Independent is strange. What do they mean with: Hans Christian Wolters confirmed he sent the letter to Kate and Gerry McCann but said he was unable to explain why his officers had come to that conclusion. ??
Bad translation of some sort??

 

[Miya]

Do you have any links to that? Just curious.

In the video description. And I posted this before a few days ago.

 

[tedtink]

He has been evaluated, that's why there is an expertise. Not saying they won't evaluate him even more, I don't know, but it comes from an expertise and is not just the opinion of just anybody.

Being 'profiled' and being evaluated by a psychiatrist are two very different things.

'Profilers at the BKA describe him in their report as a psychopath who is capable of anything. A man who nevertheless – or precisely because of this – had a charismatic aura and impressed the people around him. Most felt exploited, taken for a ride and cheated afterward.

They paint a picture of a manipulative narcissist who could appear charming, but was only trying to get money he would never pay back or sexual gratification.'

A criminal profiler develops a psychological profile of a suspect based on the evidence available.

IE- They don't speak to the individual.

A psychiatrist will evaluate the actual psychopathology of CB - to my knowledge this hasn't been done, but please provide a link if you feel that it has?

 

[Dlk79]

This item by The Independent is strange. What do they mean with: Hans Christian Wolters confirmed he sent the letter to Kate and Gerry McCann but said he was unable to explain why his officers had come to that conclusion. ??
Bad translation of some sort??

Believe the meaning was that they have a very strong belief that she was murdered but are not able/willing to divulge what particular evidence has led them to that conclusion.