Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #5

[tedtink]

We know the evidence is weak (as in not enough to be charged) because he hasn't been charged yet.
a German judge that is very influential has said the same thing. They charge if they have compelling evidence of a crime, they haven't charged so it can't be compelling. A charge has to set out what was done, by who, where and when. If the evidence they have doesn't do those 4 things they can't charge....maybe for years.

Isn't a charge made after interview with the suspect? Or does German LE charge 1st question later?

 

[MENDEL]

Kate and Gerry McCann ‘could be told within days how Madeleine died’ after German prosecutors share 'significant' evidence with Portuguese police

Kate and Gerry McCann 'could be told within days how Madeleine died' | Daily Mail Online

 

[Ardoch]

thank you.
so, the landlord had use of the jag for three months. but also, within a month of MBM disappearing CB turns up in foral.

and at some point, CB acquires the Winnebago? as he had that in foral. a Winnebago is an expensive vehicle.

and, then after three months CB has to get back to germany again to pick up the jag?

also:
"...the Jaguar, which Brueckner had hitched up to his camper van and driven to north Germany"
that camper van did well to pull a jag from the algarve to northern germany. would have also been a very distinctive sight wherever it stopped.

Sorry, I'm confused I thought he went to Foral a month or so after May 2007 and didn't go to Augsburg till a few years after. Is that saying he went to Augsburg before Foral?

 

[j_in_c]

Sorry, I'm confused I thought he went to Foral a month or so after May 2007 and didn't go to Augsburg till a few years after. Is that saying he went to Augsburg before Foral?

I have been trying to sort that out for my timeline as well. The interview with AB clearly states that he went to Augsburg immediately after May 3, 2007 driving VW van and towing the Jaguar and transferred title (not correct German term) of the Jaguar to AB. He mentions him staying on/off in his attic.

Other reports have him in Foral after May 3, 2007 with Nicole & Roman and their rented house that was operating as a very questionable "troubled youth shelter" of some sort.

I suspect he was just on the move, with no permanent address, and these my be the two places he spent most of that time period.

 

[Dlk79]

Sorry, I'm confused I thought he went to Foral a month or so after May 2007 and didn't go to Augsburg till a few years after. Is that saying he went to Augsburg before Foral?

Have a feeling he was going back and forth perhaps. It mentions in the article he was living with with AB for 2 to 3 weeks at a time, so where was he in between? Also, AB found he was drying out cannabis on the roof. He mentioned to the guy in Foral he used the winnebago to transport grass. Maybe he was buying up cannabis on the cheap from contacts in Portugal and transporting it to Germany to sell.

 

[Ardoch]

DBM

 

[Sorryaboutthat123]

This is from a German article - translation may not be perfect as it’s just auto translated on chrome but apparently the mirror was wrong -

"Unfortunately I can't tell you where the 'Mirror' got its information from, but it's not mine," explains Wolters. Although he had spoken to a newspaper reporter, he could assure him that he had not made such statements. We still have evidence-based evidence that the suspect killed Madeleine McCann. So this is not my private opinion, but the result of the previous investigation, "Wolters clarifies and adds:" However, we do not have forensic evidence of Maddie's death. "

 

[Ardoch]

I have been trying to sort that out for my timeline as well. The interview with AB clearly states that he went to Augsburg immediately after May 3, 2007 driving VW van and towing the Jaguar and transferred title (not correct German term) of the Jaguar to AB. He mentions him staying on/off in his attic.

Other reports have him in Foral after May 3, 2007 with Nicole & Roman and their rented house that was operating as a very questionable "troubled youth shelter" of some sort.

I suspect he was just on the move, with no permanent address, and these my be the two places he spent most of that time period.

I think I should do a timeline too I'm not focused on one topic enough! Mind you, it's tricky if you're depending on the accuracy - or not, of the various news reports.

 

[MENDEL]

This is from a German article - translation may not be perfect as it’s just auto translated on chrome but apparently the mirror was wrong -

"Unfortunately I can't tell you where the 'Mirror' got its information from, but it's not mine," explains Wolters. Although he had spoken to a newspaper reporter, he could assure him that he had not made such statements. We still have evidence-based evidence that the suspect killed Madeleine McCann. So this is not my private opinion, but the result of the previous investigation, "Wolters clarifies and adds:" However, we do not have forensic evidence of Maddie's death. "

To me, that sounds like a picture. Enough evidence but not of forensic type. Physical identification and examination.

 

[Dlk79]

This is from a German article - translation may not be perfect as it’s just auto translated on chrome but apparently the mirror was wrong -

"Unfortunately I can't tell you where the 'Mirror' got its information from, but it's not mine," explains Wolters. Although he had spoken to a newspaper reporter, he could assure him that he had not made such statements. We still have evidence-based evidence that the suspect killed Madeleine McCann. So this is not my private opinion, but the result of the previous investigation, "Wolters clarifies and adds:" However, we do not have forensic evidence of Maddie's death. "

Can you post the link?

 

[Kikixxxx]

This is from a German article - translation may not be perfect as it’s just auto translated on chrome but apparently the mirror was wrong -

"Unfortunately I can't tell you where the 'Mirror' got its information from, but it's not mine," explains Wolters. Although he had spoken to a newspaper reporter, he could assure him that he had not made such statements. We still have evidence-based evidence that the suspect killed Madeleine McCann. So this is not my private opinion, but the result of the previous investigation, "Wolters clarifies and adds:" However, we do not have forensic evidence of Maddie's death. "

Wow. That is so sly of the mirror. They even included a picture of him with the interviewer to make It seem legit!!

 

[Ardoch]

Have a feeling he was going back and forth perhaps. It mentions in the article he was living with with AB for 2 to 3 weeks at a time, so where was he in between? Also, AB found he was drying out cannabis on the roof. He mentioned to the guy in Foral he used the winnebago to transport grass. Maybe he was buying up cannabis on the cheap from contacts in Portugal and transporting it to Germany to sell.

He was only months out of prison as well, homeless and presumably broke

 

[Sorryaboutthat123]

Can you post the link?

"Maddie" McCann doch nicht tot? Britische Zeitung feuert gegen Braunschweiger Ermittler

 

[MENDEL]

This is from a German article - translation may not be perfect as it’s just auto translated on chrome but apparently the mirror was wrong -

"Unfortunately I can't tell you where the 'Mirror' got its information from, but it's not mine," explains Wolters. Although he had spoken to a newspaper reporter, he could assure him that he had not made such statements. We still have evidence-based evidence that the suspect killed Madeleine McCann. So this is not my private opinion, but the result of the previous investigation, "Wolters clarifies and adds:" However, we do not have forensic evidence of Maddie's death. "

Translation is enough accurate.

 

[MENDEL]

To me, that sounds like a picture. Enough evidence but not of forensic type. Physical identification and examination.

Maybe this the "significant information" PJ tells about. However, Mr Wolters in German paper link by Sorryabout says McCanns have been informed beforehand, which contradicts PJ in that they say they'll inform McCanns. Lack of communication? Strange.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

Isn't a charge made after interview with the suspect? Or does German LE charge 1st question later?

Police/prosecutors can ask to question him at the first instance and he can refuse ( which he has done)
There is a 2nd 'pre trial' phase where a judge would question him, he can't refuse that but they must charge him first before, setting out details of what he has allegedly done.

 

[tedtink]

I know, I know its the Sun.....................!

Madeleine McCann's parents get letter from cops saying she's definitely dead

 

[Armchair_Defective]

This is from a German article - translation may not be perfect as it’s just auto translated on chrome but apparently the mirror was wrong -

"Unfortunately I can't tell you where the 'Mirror' got its information from, but it's not mine," explains Wolters. Although he had spoken to a newspaper reporter, he could assure him that he had not made such statements. We still have evidence-based evidence that the suspect killed Madeleine McCann. So this is not my private opinion, but the result of the previous investigation, "Wolters clarifies and adds:" However, we do not have forensic evidence of Maddie's death. "

This is so confusing now. The Daily record ALSO say they have interviewed him and this was the one where he repeated he 'had no facts' to say she was dead a number of times.
So two separate papers making up similar things?

 

[Dlk79]

Maybe this the "significant information" PJ tells about. However, Mr Wolters in German paper link by Sorryabout says McCanns have been informed beforehand, which contradicts PJ in that they say they'll inform McCanns. Lack of communication? Strange.

I think it just means the McCanns were informed the German LE were going to treat it as a murder investigation rather than a missing person. Not that they shared all the evidence with them.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

I'm even more confused now;

'No information could be given at all about the amount and completeness of the evidence, "because it is simply not possible at all. I have only communicated that there is as yet no sufficient suspicion of crime.
Such is the case if the likelihood of a conviction is greater than that Probability of acquittal, "concludes Public Prosecutor Wolters.'