Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #5

[Integrity123]

This is probably a strange question or may not be allowed... where did murat say he was the day before the wee tot went missing? And also I have an uneasy feeling about NF partner Roman... can't understand. A lot of covering up has been planned pre 3r may by CB or whoever.

 

[jaci68]

That's a very good question.

Ok - so the phone data seems to pinpoint CB at Praia Da Luz between 7.30 and 8pm on 3rd May and the Jaguar is in Germany and reregisted on 4th May.
Is everyone absolutely sure of the time of abduction? Could it have been any earlier?
Perhaps he could have driven through the night.

 

[MENDEL]

I’m really quite baffled by this U turn. I thought the reason that Scotland Yard even considered CB as a suspect was because the Jaguar was reregistered in Germany the day after Madeleine’s disappearance. Would CB have to have been in Germany to reregister the car or could someone else have done it for him?

According to this link, you need a proof of property (part II of registration certificate). Interestingly, registration must be booked. Not sure if this is correct for 2007.

Registering a vehicle in Germany

[EDIT]: It's correct 1 year ago according to archive.org so booking isn't COVID-19 related at least.

 

[sleuth-d-]

Would seem a lot more likely that it was driven. And after all, it wouldn't be hard to persuade a friend to drive it I'd have thought. Or drive the camper while he drove it. All a bit suspect IMO

ETA
Unless he was on the run with MM. Then it would make some sense

ETA
Actually, no it wouldn't, he could easily have been stopped by LE

"He said the detectives were 'fixated' on the Jaguar, which Brueckner had hitched up to his camper van and driven to north Germany."
How Madeleine suspect slept in my attic | Daily Mail Online

no second driver according to this... although landlord may just have assumed it was hitched to the camper van.

what is glaring here - is that CB managed to get to northern germany in a camper van, towing a jag, by 4th may. and yet is prime suspect for an abduction at 21:00 - 22:00 on the 3rd, in PdL.

 

[wens67]

Hi I'm new here but from what the Germans have said in letter to McCanns I can only think they have video evidence showing Madeleine McCann. I wonder whether they have seen her being strangled or something and that is why they think she us dead. If they don't have forensic evidence then that's all I can think and either the perpetrator on the video is masked or does not show himself at all the video. I would think it is likely they have found the evidence on the memory stick and that there are other children on there who they are trying to match up.

If he is such a sick individual I also wonder whether the fact the memory stick was found under animal bones is some sort of sick confession to suggest to the person who found it, there could be bodies too.

 

[tedtink]

Ok - so the phone data seems to pinpoint CB at Praia Da Luz between 7.30 and 8pm on 3rd May and the Jaguar is in Germany and reregisted on 4th May.
Is everyone absolutely sure of the time of abduction? Could it have been any earlier?
Perhaps he could have driven through the night.

Driven through the night and have done all other dreadful things to MM & disposed of body??

 

[Owlpellet]

"He said the detectives were 'fixated' on the Jaguar, which Brueckner had hitched up to his camper van and driven to north Germany."
How Madeleine suspect slept in my attic | Daily Mail Online

no second driver according to this... although landlord may just have assumed it was hitched to the camper van.

what is glaring here - is that CB managed to get to northern germany in a camper van, towing a jag, by 4th may. and yet is prime suspect for an abduction at 21:00 - 22:00 on the 3rd, in PdL.

Sorry, where does it say he was there by May 4th?

ETA
Just because it was registered then doesn't mean he had arrived in Germany by then

 

[JediJim]

Breaking news- German prosecuters have written to the McCanns to confirm MM is dead.
Sky news UK

 

[jaci68]

Driven through the night and have done all other dreadful things to MM & disposed of body??

Yes - none of this makes much sense

So how does the Jag get reregistered in Germany the day after the abduction?

 

[Dlk79]

Its at least a 28 hour journey, so it wouldn't have got there by 4th May imo.

He could have arranged to move the car to Germany knowing that he was very soon going to be there himself?! Forward planning!

Doesn't say when the car arrived in Germany though.

Could this have been a set up for an alibi? "Couldn't have been me in PDL, I was in Germany selling my car" type of thing.

 

[MENDEL]

Surely they must mean today as the article has only just come out? Why refer to last week when they know there has been developments with the PJ since then. Also, it did seem a little odd to give the PJ this evidence and not SY.

That's PJ words. Anyway PJ has exclusive power to gather evidence for German prosecutors in Portugal, not SY.

 

[Dlk79]

That's PJ words. Anyway PJ has exclusive power to gather evidence for German prosecutors in Portugal, not SY.

Sorry, what do you mean that's PJ words?

 

[sleuth-d-]

Sorry, where does it say he was there by May 4th?

ETA
Just because it was registered then doesn't mean he had arrived in Germany by then

"However Mr Wolters confirmed it was in Germany by May 4, the day after Madeleine vanished, meaning it is unlikely that it could have been involved in the abduction"
from the telegraph article posted one page ago.

 

[MENDEL]

Sorry, what do you mean that's PJ words?

Sorry, Polícia Judiciária, that is Portuguese Judicial Police, I've seen it a lot of times here, that's why I used abbreviation.

 

[jaci68]

Doesn't say when the car arrived in Germany though.

Could this have been a set up for an alibi? "Couldn't have been me in PDL, I was in Germany selling my car" type of thing.

Yes - that sounds plausible. Perhaps that’s why he was originally ruled out until the phone data placed him at PDL.

 

[Owlpellet]

Prosecutor still saying they "assume" she's dead

Madeleine McCann's parents sent letter from police saying toddler was murdered

 

[Dlk79]

I won't answer that because they alread


Sorry, Polícia Judiciária, that is Portuguese Judicial Police, I've seen it here a lot of times here, that's why I used abbreviation.

No, I know what PJ is. I meant what do mean they are their words? What words?

 

[tedtink]

RE- JAG

"However Mr Wolters confirmed it was in Germany by May 4, the day after Madeleine vanished, meaning it is unlikely that it could have been involved in the abduction."

 

[Joolz1975]

The call lasted 30 minutes, no doubt he made a move after he got the timings by watching the Tapes group
carry out the checks every 30 minutes etc.

He could have just been making small talk with anyone while watching the apartments. The call ended at 8.02pm and I am sure I read that the Mcanns were the last to arrive at the dinner table at 8.30. Maybe at 8.02pm the other members of the party were starting to arrive at the table so he cut his call short to concentrate on who was present and from what apartment?

 

[Owlpellet]

"However Mr Wolters confirmed it was in Germany by May 4, the day after Madeleine vanished, meaning it is unlikely that it could have been involved in the abduction"
from the telegraph article posted one page ago.

In Germany or in the north of Germany at his house? Did he say when CB arrived in his attic?

ETA He was introduced by a friend. Wondering if the friend phoned on the 4th or he actually saw CB on the 4th