Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #6

[Owlpellet]

Apartment key theft cover-up by resort staff in Madeleine McCann case

This is the news report about the missing keys but there is some about it in the files, too

The maintenance guy's name is a tad familiar! I wonder if the T at the start of his name should be a D.

ETA i.e DS, not TS....the guy listed with the other phone number

 

[Sorryaboutthat123]

BIB. Yes.

Which is why one would give a penny to know what conversations the Met had with Tanner.

For my money, in order for the Met to rule out the Tanner sighting on national television, Tanner must have conceded this point.

There’s a diagram she drew at the time which showed him as being at the corner. If that was it I could understand she may have been mistaken, but then she points him as being quite far up the road to the right at that corner?! Surely that’s not a mere slip up! That’s completely the wrong direction.

 

[mrjitty]

This guy and his wife claim they came forward at the very beginning to say it "may have been him" and they claim to have told the police this more than once. So why did it take 6 years of "Tannerman" all over the TV as the prime suspect for LE to say, "oh yeah, it was just that guy all along"?
Why did Madeleine McCann cops waste years investigating GP sighting?
I'm not saying it definitely wasn't him, but something is not right there.

RSBM & Bolded.

Because of the witness herself obviously.

Tannerman was walking in a different direction to Totman. So in order for the Met to finally conclude Tannerman was Totman, Jane Tanner herself must have conceded that she was confused about the aspects that can't be reconciled.

 

[mrjitty]

There’s a diagram she drew at the time which showed him as being at the corner. If that was it I could understand she may have been mistaken, but then she points him as being quite far up the road to the right at that corner?! Surely that’s not a mere slip up! That’s completely the wrong direction.

Yes. The implications are obvious are they not?

Just my 02c

 

[Dlk79]

Did that door lock from inside and outside? I thought GM went in through that door then out through the patio when he checked MM.

In KM and GM initial interview transcripts they are said to have gone in through the front door with a key but that was changed in their subsequent statements to say they went in through the unlocked patio doors.

 

[JediJim]

Anyone else totally confused at this case?

 

[sleuth-d-]

That was the theory on forums in 2007 - that Madeleine was passed through the window because the guy who was seen carrying the child was kind of carrying her the opposite way of picking her up from her bed and taking her but if he passed her through the window then her head would be leaning on his left side.
But I think this guy in maroon shirt who was seen by Jane Tanner was found and this child wasn't Madeleine.

that is very smart thinking about the way the child was carried.

the thing with the guy that SY found is he didn't look anything like Tanner's description (hair length, height)... and neither did his child's pyjamas look anything like the description Tanner gave.
of course, if he said he also saw Tanner, at the same time as Tanner saw him, that would clear it up.
if not, no doubt he was carrying a child that night of course, but so could another person that was the abductor carrying MBM. surely there were a few parents picking up children from the creche and walking around carrying their children home. but there was also an abductor carrying a child from apt5a.

 

[Andreee]

Very perceptive too - a word she used for him......."DISGUSTING".......

I noticed that lol and perceptive young person!

 

[Olivia_Seafish]

Assuming the german Prosecutor is correct and CB is guilty, my thought experiment is the case has been beset by a fog of war from the start

e.g Why did Gerry not reveal the patio door was unlocked from the start? Was this to conceal his own negligence in a moment of high stress in a foreign country because it was almost certainly the point of ingress? But then in a calmer moment, he realised that his chum obviously had entered the apartment without a key, so he came clean on it?

Were the "whooshing curtains " enhanced for similar reasons?

Did Tanner, convinced she saw the perp, massage her evidence a bit?

Did the group, still a bit drunk and under high stress, autosuggest timings to each other, so as to align with Tanners wild goose chase - but under the belief Tanner "must have seen the guy in the act"?

If CB is guilty, pretty much all of the Tapas evidence is a waste of time IMO. He most likely struck before 10, entered through the patio door, and had as much as 20 mins. He didn't need accomplices or any complicated surveillance schemes. He just walked in and walked out. No one saw him. He had a car parked close by and left.

I've always read it that way.

The 'checking system' always sounded like bollocks to me. Are a group of 7 or 8 friends really going to have someone getting up every 5 minutes? And if yes, why? If you feel the need to check on the kids that much, isn't that an obvious indicator that they shouldn't be left alone? I don't think the checks were as regular as we're told.

As for Tannerman, I'm not sure of the timeline and when he came into existence. However, I've always wondered if the sighting was embellished upon, or even fabricated, in order to steer the investigators towards an abductor. There's a certain logic to it.

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[Dlk79]

RSBM & Bolded.

Because of the witness herself obviously.

Tannerman was walking in a different direction to Totman. So in order for the Met to finally conclude Tannerman was Totman, Jane Tanner herself must have conceded that she was confused about the aspects that can't be reconciled.

That is definitely a possibility, can't discount that. Would seem weird though as if he was going the opposite way, that was the way she also went, so she would have then been walking directly behind him alongside the ocean club.

 

[JediJim]

Maybe Jane Tanner saw the man come forward and doubted herself? Her original statement said the man was dressed unlike a tourist and had long hair.
The man that came forward didn’t match her description as far as I’m aware.
It’s still possible Jane Tanner did see the abductor. IMO.

 

[PS8800]

Apart from CB being a suspect, 13 years on were not much wiser about MMs disappearance.

Much of it should have been established within the first few hours...

 

[haden]

The maintenance guy's name is a tad familiar! I wonder if the T at the start of his name should be a D.

ETA i.e DS, not TS

Can you elaborate? Is this the person who made a phone call to Christian B?

 

[Owlpellet]

Can you elaborate? Is this the person who made a phone call to Christian B?

yes, just edited it. Thinking the name sounds very similar and could have been misheard by the reporter.

 

[tedtink]

Maybe Jane Tanner saw the man come forward and doubted herself? Her original statement said the man was dressed unlike a tourist and had long hair.
The man that came forward didn’t match her description as far as I’m aware.
It’s still possible Jane Tanner did see the abductor. IMO.

"But one retired Met Police detective, who visited the resort with The Sun, is convinced Jane Tanner saw the real abductor"

Why did Madeleine McCann cops waste years investigating GP sighting?

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

DS was the 30 minute mobile guy. TS -who may possibly really be the same as DS - is the maintenance man who allegedly lost the duplicate keys to apartment block 5 in the week beforeMM abduction.

ETA: this really needs looking into, I think. I was thinking the same thing when reading the linked article a few posts back

 

[Owlpellet]

DS was the 30 minute mobile guy. TS -who may possibly really be the same as DS - is the maintenance man who allegedly lost the duplicate keys to apartment block 5 in the week beforeMM abduction.

ETA: this really needs looking into, I think. I was thinking the same thing when reading the linked article a few posts back

Well, I think they sound really similar names

 

[TizerisT]

I think Thiago is the Portuguese version of Diego
Like James and Shamus

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Well, I think they sound really similar names

I completely agree

 

[Owlpellet]

I think Thiago is the Portuguese version of Diego
Like James and Shamus

Surely LE will have spotted this. Could explain why they had no qualms about releasing the phone number, knowing it would be tracked to the guy.