Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #7

[Zolex]

I was thinking about things like: why CB in particular...were their other (German) sex offenders (in the Algarve/PdL, he was associated with, shared things with, could there have been a possible ring....without re-doing the whole MM threads.

Could be. CB was very active on the Darkweb according to his friend MT and the easiest way to find people with the same interest is to go to a forum of that interest. Hopefully people with this kind of interest are rare.

 

[sleuth-d-]

Re. Hazel Behan (she has waived anonymity) and the 2015 radio interview about her 2004 rape in Portugal. This was posted before but I can’t recall by who. Thank you for pointing it out.

Tubridy floored by ‘bravery’ of woman sharing her harrowing rape ordeal live on air

I encourage everyone to listen to this in full, with the disclaimer that it could be *very* triggering for survivors of sexual assault.

There are definite similarities to the 2005 rape that CB was convicted of. It’s hard to know how similar because we don’t know many details about the attack on the 72 year old American but HB said she threw up when she recently read details. The Met and Portuguese LE are reportedly taking the connection seriously. There were some reports it had been dismissed but the original article in Portuguese media seems to have been amended.

One of the most disturbing things I noticed was that the rapist was “forensically aware”. He took off his shoes, he washed his hands repeatedly, he cut her clothes off with scissors, he used multiple condoms, he seems to have tried to get her to shower etc.

I don’t know if anyone else watched Unbelievable on Netflix but it immediately reminded me of that case. They discovered that the rapist had a Rape Forensic Guide made for LE in his possession, which was basically how to not get caught guide for rapists. Material like this circulates on the dark web.

Other things to note:
- she was attacked in a resort apartment in Portimao
- the perp may have broken in prior to the rape because money was stolen in the days before
- the attack was well planned and he referred to her by name

This may not be CB but if it was he will have gone to some effort not to leave much forensically at the crime scene.

edit. oops forgot link to interview. Added

it was me, the audio interview is indeed an eye-opener.
other comparisons i noted:
HB rape / American 72 year old rape

non-resident, stranger to the area / non-resident, stranger to the area
takes place within victim's holiday apt / takes place within victim's holiday apt
entered via open balcony door / entered via open living room door
videod / videod*
threatened with 12 inch 'machete' / carried a 30 cm 'scimitar''sabre'
torture / torture
whips-chains / beaten with a metal, flexible object
spoke english with a german accent / german
night-time / 22:30
moved her from bedroom to kitchen (struggle) / dragged her through house
camcorder set up in second room / camcorder set up in second location
tied up / tied up

*surely this is quite distinctive, where a rape takes place at the location of the victim

i am sure there are more similarities, within the full details of the American 72 year old rape trial.
for instance from HB:
dressed in all black. leather mask. leotard + tights. woken from sleep. verbally derogatory towards victim/women. and as you say - washes hands. uses condoms. leaves shoes at the door. clothes cut with scissors. knew her name.

how much do LE need?

eta
the list goes on:
living alone / living alone

 

[LiamMatthew]

I've only just realised that he fits the description of the pock marked 'ugly' man carrying a child. Sorry, a bit slow at the back here as you've probably already discussed this. JMO MOO

I don't remember a pock marked man being seen carrying a child (although I'm probably wrong on that) but a couple of people mentioned a pock marked man hanging around near the McCann's apartment acting suspiciously.

 

[Joolz1975]

I don't remember a pock marked man being seen carrying a child (although I'm probably wrong on that) but a couple of people mentioned a pock marked man hanging around near the McCann's apartment acting suspiciously.

Yeh it was the 12 year old girl I think that said about him around the area of the apartment.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

it was me, the audio interview is indeed an eye-opener.
other comparisons i noted:
HB rape / American 72 year old rape

non-resident, stranger to the area / non-resident, stranger to the area
takes place within victim's holiday apt / takes place within victim's holiday apt
entered via open balcony door / entered via open living room door
videod / videod*
threatened with 12 inch 'machete' / carried a 30 cm 'scimitar''sabre'
torture / torture
whips-chains / beaten with a metal, flexible object
spoke english with a german accent / german
night-time / 22:30
moved her from bedroom to kitchen (struggle) / dragged her through house
camcorder set up in second room / camcorder set up in second location
tied up / tied up

*surely this is quite distinctive, where a rape takes place at the location of the victim

i am sure there are more similarities, within the full details of the American 72 year old rape trial.
for instance from HB:
dressed in all black. leather mask. leotard + tights. woken from sleep. verbally derogatory towards victim/women. and as you say - washes hands. uses condoms. leaves shoes at the door. clothes cut with scissors. knew her name.

how much do LE need?

eta
the list goes on:
living alone / living alone

In Germany, sounds like absolute proof. No question about it proof.

 

[Dlk79]

it was me, the audio interview is indeed an eye-opener.
other comparisons i noted:
HB rape / American 72 year old rape

non-resident, stranger to the area / non-resident, stranger to the area
takes place within victim's holiday apt / takes place within victim's holiday apt
entered via open balcony door / entered via open living room door
videod / videod*
threatened with 12 inch 'machete' / carried a 30 cm 'scimitar''sabre'
torture / torture
whips-chains / beaten with a metal, flexible object
spoke english with a german accent / german
night-time / 22:30
moved her from bedroom to kitchen (struggle) / dragged her through house
camcorder set up in second room / camcorder set up in second location
tied up / tied up

*surely this is quite distinctive, where a rape takes place at the location of the victim

i am sure there are more similarities, within the full details of the American 72 year old rape trial.
for instance from HB:
dressed in all black. leather mask. leotard + tights. woken from sleep. verbally derogatory towards victim/women. and as you say - washes hands. uses condoms. leaves shoes at the door. clothes cut with scissors. knew her name.

how much do LE need?

eta
the list goes on:
living alone / living alone

I'm hoping the German LE are following up on this lead. From what I can gather, it was only the Portuguese LE who ruled out CB, they haven't explained why. Then again, they never explained why they ruled him out of MM either. Nor did they connect him to the 72yr old he was later convicted for in PDL.

Anyway, the Met seemed to find her claim credible, lets hope something comes of it, not sure I've seen any comment from Germany on it yet...

 

[Kikixxxx]

Hazel Behan also said he had “ piercing blue eyes” I mean come ON. What are the chances? Both speak English with a German accent, both have the exact same MO, Both in a short proximity. it’s uncanny.

I might be being dozy here but I never understood why he took his shoes off at the door? Hazel said it was cause the moisture in the air would have left his footprints, but wouldn’t his sweaty feet do the same? And surely if anything’s gonna leave footprints you’d want your shoes to as opposed to your feet where they could find traces of dna from sweat etc??

 

[sleuth-d-]

Have you thought about alerting LE on this point?!

absolutely agree. this is the kind of niche-expert analysis that the LE possibly don't have. classic example of where websleuths - having a large group of people spread world-wide with diverse interests - can help raise all kinds of lines of investigation.

 

[photographer4]

The changing face of Madeleine McCann suspect: Mugshots show Christian Brueckner a decade apart | Daily Mail Online

 

[photographer4]

Hazel Behan also said he had “ piercing blue eyes” I mean come ON. What are the chances? Both speak English with a German accent, both have the exact same MO, Both in a short proximity. it’s uncanny.

I might be being dozy here but I never understood why he took his shoes off at the door? Hazel said it was cause the moisture in the air would have left his footprints, but wouldn’t his sweaty feet do the same? And surely if anything’s gonna leave footprints you’d want your shoes to as opposed to your feet where they could find traces of dna from sweat etc??

You might not want your shoe tread to be left as evidence - it might reveal important information: make, size, old / new... perhaps he had worn these before in another attack and he was aware they would link him to another crime? If he took off his shoes, odds are he was also wearing something else to cover his feet. I don't think he went barefoot, but we're not told whether he was barefoot or wearing socks. We're also not told what kind of shoes he took off (sandals, sneakers... dress shoes, clown shoes).... why don't we know? Was it that Hazel didn't know, or was it something police held back?

 

[sleuth-d-]

Hazel Behan also said he had “ piercing blue eyes” I mean come ON. What are the chances? Both speak English with a German accent, both have the exact same MO, Both in a short proximity. it’s uncanny.

I might be being dozy here but I never understood why he took his shoes off at the door? Hazel said it was cause the moisture in the air would have left his footprints, but wouldn’t his sweaty feet do the same? And surely if anything’s gonna leave footprints you’d want your shoes to as opposed to your feet where they could find traces of dna from sweat etc??

i assume the tights covered the soles of his feet.

 

[Kikixxxx]

i assume the tights covered the soles of his feet.

But feet still sweat in tights though. That wouldn’t necessarily not leave any footprints

 

[Kikixxxx]

The changing face of Madeleine McCann suspect: Mugshots show Christian Brueckner a decade apart | Daily Mail Online

Why so bad quality

 

[photographer4]

i assume the tights covered the soles of his feet.

It could even be he took them off because shoes can also indicate how tall a person might be and whether perhaps they walk with an odd gait... width between steps... transfer evidence....

 

[sleuth-d-]

But feet still sweat in tights though. That wouldn’t necessarily not leave any footprints

i agree... but i get the feeling that this person had covered [literally, almost] every eventually, and would have tested that his outfit didn't leave any trace - footprints, sweat, whatever.
she said he was dressed in all black... so maybe black socks over the black tights. that weren't noticeable to HB.

having said that, leaving zero forensic trace is surely very difficult in a third party's apt - with half decent forensics.
1 hair was found in the case of the 72 year old. he was there for 15 minutes. HB was attacked for 4 hours.

did HB get decent attention to forensics in her case? from what she says it appears no, she didn't.

 

[Dlk79]

did HB get decent attention to forensics in her case? from what she says it appears no, she didn't.

Think that's probably a firm NO.

 

[BellMat]

it was me, the audio interview is indeed an eye-opener.
other comparisons i noted:
HB rape / American 72 year old rape

non-resident, stranger to the area / non-resident, stranger to the area
takes place within victim's holiday apt / takes place within victim's holiday apt
entered via open balcony door / entered via open living room door
videod / videod*
threatened with 12 inch 'machete' / carried a 30 cm 'scimitar''sabre'
torture / torture
whips-chains / beaten with a metal, flexible object
spoke english with a german accent / german
night-time / 22:30
moved her from bedroom to kitchen (struggle) / dragged her through house
camcorder set up in second room / camcorder set up in second location
tied up / tied up

*surely this is quite distinctive, where a rape takes place at the location of the victim

i am sure there are more similarities, within the full details of the American 72 year old rape trial.
for instance from HB:
dressed in all black. leather mask. leotard + tights. woken from sleep. verbally derogatory towards victim/women. and as you say - washes hands. uses condoms. leaves shoes at the door. clothes cut with scissors. knew her name.

how much do LE need?

eta
the list goes on:
living alone / living alone

Agreed.

Thanks again for posting. It really was eye-opening.You can read about a crime but hearing a victim speak about it is an entirely different matter. I have huge admiration for Hazel.

When you consider this interview was done 5 years ago, it’s quite chilling. As she spoke, so much reminded me of what we know about CB.

The way she described the police response was so disheartening. What were you wearing? Were you drinking? Did you invite someone in? Taking photos of her naked while policeman watched. Leaving the bloodied sheets in her room. I know it was a while ago but bloody hell, it wasn’t 1985. I really hope things have changed since then.

Apparently Portuguese LE considered it a ‘one off’ because it took place during Euro 2004. I don’t understand this reasoning. The attack required preparation, advance planning, knowledge, and many tools. It hardly strikes me as the act of a football fan visiting to watch a game. They put it in the too hard basket IMO.

The videotaping is awful but if it’s CB then this need to document could be his downfall, especially if he posted on the internet where things never die.

LE has excellent video identification software now which can identify both victims and perps. It just requires trawling through all the catalogued horror they’ve dug up over the years. Fingers crossed.

 

[Deleted member 268067]

If there’s one thing I’d bet on out of all of this it’s that CB was the perpetrator of both the elderly US woman and HB. Absolutely.

 

[LeopardLeotard]

Just thinking,he obvs didnt imagine how worldwide the attention was going to be regarding mm,maybe he swiped her passport,not to actually use but as a trophy of some kind..if hes mentioned that to anyone and if that was not relayed to the press,ie something only the kidnapper would know was missing..

 

[BellMat]

Yeh it was the 12 year old girl I think that said about him around the area of the apartment.

I think a couple of witness statements have been conflated over the years, which makes it seem more like a single person.

I re-read, and the perceptive 12 year old described the man as “ugly” but she also said his face markings looked like “shaving cuts.” That seems different to other descriptions of a pock-marked or acne-scarred man? Not sure...